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Marketplace rules - How To Post - Updated NO Sales thread bumping.

Discussion in 'BHW Marketplace rules and how to post' started by Diamond Damien, Dec 28, 2011.

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  1. Diamond Damien

    Diamond Damien Owner BlackHatWorld Staff Member Jr. VIP

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    Guidelines for Posting and Receiving Approval
    For Your Marketplace Thread:
    1. You must have Jr. VIP or Marketplace Seller status.
    2. You must be free from bans and infractions (subject to moderator approval).
    3. Your product/service must comply with all BHW rules, including but not limited to, no forums, no coaching, no illegal services. Check the rules before deciding on a thread.
    4. Your thread should include clear contact and refund policies.
    5. Your product and service must be of quality and priced reasonably. BHW staff will be the sole arbiters of this.
    6. Anyone who is controlling or perceived to be controlling a marketplace thread / working on a JV with you must have the required Jr. VIP status to do so.
    7. There is an annual fee to maintain your marketplace thread, you will be notified via pm when this is due.
    How To Submit A BHW Marketplace Thread
    If the above applies please complete the next set of steps:


    1. Chose the Marketplace section that describes your service and create your thread. Images will be held on a third party server, imgur.com or imageshack.us. We have done this in order to speed up the forum, improve page loads and avoid unapproved changes to threads.
    2. Once you have created your thread, it will go into a moderation queue. You will receive a pm with a link to manage the approval process which will then be picked up by a BHW mod. Make sure your thread is a final edit. Once you have submitted your thread, changes can be made by PM'ing Mr Apricot , OldSalt I Know SEO or Nuf Ced. The cost for this will be $30.
    3. You are no longer required to send a PM to a MOD stating you have listed a sales thread. You will be contacted by them when they are ready to review your sales thread. This will normally be within 24-48 working hours.
    4. A Moderator will then review your service, you must provide the top level package or service described in your thread. If you are unable to provide this your thread won't be approved.
    5. Wait patiently to hear back from the staff regarding your sales thread, use the thread to respond to the mod within the review process, If your thread is approved you will be pm'd and asked to pay a $30* listing fee. NOTE the live thread will be cleared of all previous messages from the review process and set live on the marketplace forum you created. *this will be renewed annually - you will be pm'd 7 days before this renewal is due.
    6. Do not try to jump the queue for Marketplace approvals. PM titles such as 'REPLY ASAP!!!!', 'URGENT URGENT URGENT', or anything similar will not gain you favor with the staff. Similarly, sending multiple messages or spamming skype will only give a negative impression of your professionalism. Don't do it!
    7. Further questions on how to submit a thread or marketplace questions visit our BlackHatWorld support section.

    Thread bumping - Don't do it.


    Members found to be bumping their thread (deleting a post and then reposting it AND / OR placing consecutive posts within a 72 hour period) will receive a 1 month ban and their Marketplace thread(s) will be removed.

    Bumping clarified

    What you cannot
    do and how to get around it:

    1. Promote your Sales thread more than once every 72 hours, this includes putting an advert or coupon style text underneath your response to a question or responding to an order confirmation.


    In short you can not promote in any way your Sales Thread more than once every 72 hours.

    2. You must not respond to individual order confirmations, try and group the responses together in one post or at the end of each day.

    3. The same as 2 for answering questions, try and group as many as you can in one response. If you are seen to be responding to individual questions a lot in one day this will be seen as Bumping. You can avoid this by sending a PM to the customer who asked the question and then at the end of the day publicly respond to all the questions in one response.

    4. Do not respond with "Thank You" use the thank you button for this.



    Why Was My BuySellServices Thread Denied?


    Having a services thread is a privilege, not a right, staff are under no obligation to approve any thread.

    If you do not receive a response from the staff after two weeks, assume that your thread has been denied. We do not discuss the reasons for denied threads, so don't PM asking, this will not get your thread approved.


    Useful Advice:

    Many of the moderators are available on BHW chat , should you need to discuss your services thread or its status, ask here. Be courteous though, as pestering the staff will result in your application being denied.


    Don't post if you are not a buyer.
    It's simple if you have never used a service you can't comment on how it works / how effective it is. We ask all thread creators to report any unreasonable posts to a mod where they will be reviewed. If you are found to be using this service unreasonably you will be banned.

    Don't request trials / review copies.
    The op will post the number of review / trial copies they are willing to give away, if any, and will provide the criteria they require to get a review / trial copy (often these are only for Jr. VIP accounts).

    Avoid being Scammed online.

    All of the staff hate to see members getting scammed and shitlist threads being opened. We all work very hard to protect members, deleting 100's of threads a day, and taking lots of time and care on sales/services threads that we allow through. We can only do so much to protect members though, so here are some really simple pointers to help you avoid being scammed.

    Disclosure of Compensated Review Copies

    Updated 11/12/12 - Going forward BHW will require the disclosure of compensated buyer reviews. This is to include both free and discounted review copies of products and/or services. If you are exchanging services for reviews please be sure to make a short disclosure statement in the review text. Example - "I was given a free review copy in exchange for this review", or "I was offered a discount in exchange for my feedback here".



    1. If a user doesn't have a sales thread approved by a moderator - don't buy. Report the thread.
    2. Don't buy from anyone who started off by saying 'PM me for details', there is a reason they don't want to make their details public.
    3. If something seems too good to be true - it is.
    4. Exercise extreme caution when clicking on signature links where the poster doesn't have an approved Marketplace.
    5. Always make sure your payment method can be reversed if the service/product provider flakes. Don't send as a PayPal personal payment, don't western union.
    6. Document and store ALL communications, including chat/IM logs
    7. Always Google for the sellers e-mail address and any other information, they may have scammed other forums.
    8. Stay away from threads/pm's/signatures that promote networks, do a search and due diligence before working with any network.
    9. Check sellers other posts and threads, check have others complained, and how previous customers have rated and reviewed them.
    10. Even if the user has an approved Marketplace thread, ensure that you check them out fully, sellers can provide excellent review copies and then become flaky.
    11. Always get full contact information - don't do your business via PM. It's too easy for internet users to drop off the board when things go pear shaped.
    12. Be VERY paranoid regarding dropshipping, double check all of the above points when considering a product seller.
    13. Avoid any JV's where the users require you pay before you receive your own payment. Consider the value of your own accounts, and the legality, and tax implications of letting someone send traffic to your accounts.
    14. Just because someone has status, a high post count, or a good reputation, does not guarantee that they will not turn rogue or resort to desperate measures, apply the above regardless of status on BHW.
    15. Freebies and giveaways relating to marketplace threads can be run in exceptional circumstances with Admin approval only. BHW will need to hold title to the items you're offering to give away. There will be a charge for this based on the value of the giveaway, min $250.

    UPDATE: We are working on ways to speed up the approval process, so all posts are reviewed and tested faster. You need to provide a trial of your service before it will be approved. No exceptions! Once requested that trial must be provided within 1 week otherwise your thread maybe deleted.

    Thread Edits

    From now on, thread edits ARE permitted, but we are charging you $30 for the privilege.
    You can choose to close your old thread and open up another one, but you will have to go through the review process again, it's your call.

    To edit one of your marketplace threads:
    1. Send us your thread edits using Pastern, put your whole thread layout in and then send the link via pm to one of the mods listed in 2
    2. PM Apricot , OldSalt or Nuf-Ced .
    3. Only PM once, contacting multiple times with "Plsszzz help nowww urgent!!!!11one" will just push you to the back of the queue.
    You can of course use the Hot Deals Section for temporary sales.

    Content, discussion and decision taken from forum suggestions and feedback post here


    Use of Page Rank

    (updated July 4th 2016)​
    Google PageRank will no longer be accepted as a metric on link building within marketplace threads. Pagerank is no longer an effective metric to use when making a purchase decision for backlink packages and BHW has decided our marketplace needs to reflect this. We will no longer be allowing PageRank in BHW marketplace listings, as announced earlier this year,. Read more about the decision not to accept Googles PageRank as a metric on marketplace threads here.
     
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    Is there any way to get rid of infractions?
     
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    Same Rules again, I expected something Different :)
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Never sure if I have an infraction or not? There is a mention of it on my profile...?

    Anyway, not planning any BST threads just yet:)
     
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    Hey Diamond,

    I hope you are reading this. I want to ask something :

    Can you please make the process of getting a thread approval faster somehow? I know people are waiting for months to get approved and that really kills the meaning of the BST section as it's supposed to bring us the latest products, not the few-months-at-least products.

    Thanks in advance :) We love you
     
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    If you don't see it near your name (Where your stats are; Thanked,thanks..etc) then you don't have any :)
     
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    It takes such long to approve the thread because there are lots of threads in queue. May be admin can do something to make it faster process.
     
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  8. Diamond Damien

    Diamond Damien Owner BlackHatWorld Staff Member Jr. VIP

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    Thanks for your support WizIMS we are working on a solution to this so BHW members get the greatest products first.


     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    There is a mention, but it says 1(0), take a look. But I think it's ok .
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    And btw I have submitted a few bsts and not heard back. But I think it's good that it's not easy to get listed - you can see that the available BSTs are normally very high quality which is a good thing:)
     
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    peterbruce Supreme Member

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    I got one for spam I think.

    Is it possible to remove it? I plan to post a BST and upgrade to VIP soon.
     
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    is there any chance in infraction thing if person is enough reputed?
     
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    Diamond Damien,

    I think you should post more often.
    I think people would like to know more about you.

    and thanks for the guidelines.
     
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    I don't think your guys infractions count.. if you look at the top right of my post under "thanked" it shows my infractions there.
     
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    It does not show them to us. I think it only shows them to yourself. At least I can't see it.
     
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    oh ok.. that's weird.

    yeah i can't see anybody that has an infraction but myself so must just show to you.

    http://i42.tinypic.com/2qsqi69.jpg
     
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    everything is good expect "You must be free from infractions and bans."
     
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    I think with infractions, only the logged in user can see them...
     
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    There must be a way to remove the infractions... :question:
     
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