1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Google’s ToolBar PageRank end date - finally taken behind the barn and shot.

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by nuf-ced, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. nuf-ced

    nuf-ced Administrator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2012
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    352
    According to our sources and corroborated by Search Engine Land, and The SEM Post, Google has confirmed that it is removing ToolBar PageRank.

    You may have noticed that your Google PageRank is showing as unavailable, if not yet, it soon will. This removal will be a process that spreads over the coming weeks, slowly beginning to not show any data at all. This removal however, appears to only affect the external PageRank system, as it is understood Google will continue using PageRank in their internal algorithm.

    As reported on The SEM Post, a spokesperson from Google has confirmed this removal, whilst also commenting that it is still used internally; "Yes, PageRank is still used in our algorithms, among a number of other signals."

    Although, did we really not see this coming? Google has, after all, neglected the PageRank score for years. The only thing to worry about, is whether or not the removal of legacy PageRank from public view, will have any effect on our websites?

    The answer, is no; according to the Google spokesperson who told The SEM Post:

    "No, this update does not change anything for webmasters or SEOs in how their sites show up in search. Webmasters can use Search Console to get details about their content's presence in Google Search, including information about links pointing to their sites. As the Internet and our understanding of the Internet have grown in complexity, the Toolbar PageRank score has become less useful to users as a single isolated metric. Retiring the PageRank display from Toolbar helps avoid confusing users and webmasters about the significance of the metric."

    This calls into question, why has Google decided to remove it after all these years of letting the PageRank sit aimlessly on our Toolbars?

    There are multiple of issues associated with PageRank, one of which was that users were experiencing difficulties when transferring from http to https. As a result, they were losing their legacy PageRank as it wouldn't transfer to the new URL.

    Also, for those who are selling links based on what PR value the page has will be affected, as it lessens the value of the page value. This metric, therefore, shouldn't be used anymore with the removal of PageRank.

    All in all, its best to say your goodbyes now, and make peace with the slow disappearance of Google's Toolbar PageRank. But fear not there's always the alphabet soup of DA's and PA's to fall back on, authority and intent, social and local signals, and Cagney and Lacey ( .... ok the last one is just showing my age) .

    In short does a page / domain that yesterday had a high PR suddenly become valueless? No ofcourse not but how long, considering the years that PR hasn't been updated, can you rely on PR when building your links?

    What's next?

    What metric are YOU going to use to base where you search for links? What really matters to you?

    Click here for TheSEMPost article.
    Click here for the Search Engine Land article.

    Note from June 2016 PR will no longer be an acceptable metric to use when selling on the marketplace. It's already outdated this is the final nail in the coffin.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 19
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2016
  2. nipester

    nipester Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2009
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    28
    Neither one of these two articles mention clearly whether or not google's PR servers will stop giving the info to the public. Most tools like sb use those servers. This story just covers google's own webmaster toolbar.
     
  3. nuf-ced

    nuf-ced Administrator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2012
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    352
    Hi Nipster - very first line of the SEM Post = "Google is removing the publicly shown Google PageRank from being displayed." that's fairly clear cut.
     
  4. jimbobo2779

    jimbobo2779 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,737
    Likes Received:
    2,660
    Occupation:
    Software Engineer
    Location:
    UK
    Home Page:
    Personally I am glad that they are finally removing it. It hasn't been updated in years yet some still cling onto it as if their life depended on it.

    I will begin phasing out PR from my software and look forward to a future of not having to explain to people why they shouldn't be relying on PR.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  5. charto03

    charto03 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2010
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    78
    Occupation:
    fixing your rep.
    Location:
    Blackhatworld
    PR Gone but just replaced with DA and TF ratings.
     
  6. News Engine

    News Engine Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2016
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    2
    ^Trust flow, social popularity and other factors too
     
  7. Take Action

    Take Action Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2014
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    262
    Gender:
    Male
    Home Page:
    Finally its dusted. Trust Flow has taken the place of PR for selling links.
     
  8. RuthSam

    RuthSam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2010
    Messages:
    3,813
    Likes Received:
    976
    Gender:
    Male
    Home Page:
    Fianlly it's taken off. thanks for the info OP.
     
  9. macdonjo3

    macdonjo3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    5,637
    Likes Received:
    4,374
    Location:
    Toronto
    Home Page:

    hahaha exactly..

    the only people that use it are Fiverr and DP noobs
     
  10. macdonjo3

    macdonjo3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Messages:
    5,637
    Likes Received:
    4,374
    Location:
    Toronto
    Home Page:
    @nuf-ced Will this apply to current marketplace threads, or just new threads? A number of threads still rely on Page Rank as their sole metric in selling links.

    upload_2016-6-11_23-16-54.png

    upload_2016-6-11_23-17-30.png

    upload_2016-6-11_23-17-48.png
     
  11. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2010
    Messages:
    16,775
    Likes Received:
    30,798
    Occupation:
    Selling CPA Sites
    Location:
    Not England
    Home Page:
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  12. remseoppc

    remseoppc Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Google is removing the publicly shown Google PageRank from being displayed. Trust Flow has taken the place of PR for selling links.
     
  13. jimbobo2779

    jimbobo2779 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,737
    Likes Received:
    2,660
    Occupation:
    Software Engineer
    Location:
    UK
    Home Page:
    Mate this was so long ago now. I don't wanna jump on you too bad for this but why bump a year+ old thread?

    Don't bump old threads just to increase your post count, it is a quick and sure fire way to get banned.