I have one question about manual penalties vs algo penalties. For manual penalties it's all clear, someone inspected your website and marked it as spam and you either got deindex or your rankings dropped a lot. But with Penguin or Hummingbird penalties, how does it actually work? Is it a penalty for real or actually your links get devalued and it's like having no links? I mean, are these real penalties (meaning you get penalized for a while or until you fix something) or your links get reset to zero value and your website ranks where it should naturally rank with no links.