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Lost with Expired Domains. Need Help!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gogamer, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. gogamer

    gogamer Registered Member

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    Hi!

    I read a lot of post about methods to find some good domain, so I started to search some nice expired domain (doing this now for 3 days nonstop) but I totally lost with the instructions here (and from other sources) how to estimate the strengh of the domains

    I tried expireddomains.net (with filter instruction from BHW) + also find a lot of expired domain with Xenu from scraped sites, but I can't decide which one is worth it to buy.

    There are a lot of strange things that I face with:

    -I found a lot of aged PR2-PR5 ones with no majesctic backlinks (some with high moz authority, some with zero)

    - But I also find a lot of aged one with very high DA+PA but with lot of links (not sure good or bad ones) but PR0

    I think all of these maybe worthless domains, but I don't understand really why.
    If they have no real value, how they get those huge Moz authority?

    The second problem is that I haven't got any paid subscription at Majestic or at aHref, so I can get very little info about the backlinks for each domain. Is there any other way to check them without any subsciption?

    Can anybody clear this for me please? How is a "good" domain exactly look like? I don't expect a PR6 with superlinks. I just want to find some to start a small PBN to see if it works.

    Can a PR0 domain be good if other metrics are great?

    Which metrics are the most important? PR or DA?

    I can't decide if I found some gems or a bunch of crap domains now :D

    Any help would be appreciated! And sorry for my noobness....also for bad english
     
  2. SkyrocketSEO

    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You need to learn how quality link looks like and how spammy link looks like. Once you can make a clear distinction between those 2 you will be on the good road. DA is crappy metric that can easily be boosted using no-follow comment links. Also, Google does not rank sites according to their DA.
     
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  3. Santhor

    Santhor Junior Member

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    Gogamer,

    I certainly understand your situation; looking for good expired domains can be a real PITA. So, I'll try to help as much as I can.

    First things first; none of the numeric values (that includes PR, DA/PA and TF/CF) are enough on their own. They should be used as filters so that you can spend your time analyzing domains that are really worth pursuing.

    What matters actually is the amount and quality (not in that order necessarily) of the backlinks pointing to the domain. It goes without saying that the more high quality links to the domain the better. And it's equally important to gauge (as much as you can) whether or not the links will stick once you acquire and repurpose the domain. If the links come from the homepages of a bunch of regularly updated sites, chances are you will lose all of them once the new site is online and the owners of the linking domains realize the site has changed.

    As to your question regarding high PR with no backlinks and PR0 with good backlink profile, the first is useless and the latter is better. However, the ideal is to find sites with valid PR that have good backlinks that are likely to stick.

    If you don't want to pay for MajesticSEO or Ahrefs (and I recommend paying for Ahrefs if you are serious about this since it will save you a lot of time), you may either try to use a VPN and change IPs and browsers once you hit daily limits or try openlinkprofiler.org as an alternative, although I'm sure they don't have as big of an index as Ahrefs.
     
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  4. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Their backlinks profiles, as skyrocketseo said, makes all the differences. All the other talk and metrics can be gamed, but if you know what a quality link profile is and if you can assess wether its going to stick, you can make better decision despite those metrics.

    If you don't have a paid subscription, try this free link checker tool - in addition to open site explorer:

    openlinkprofiler.org

    And start looking through the backlinks.
     
  5. Nut-Nights

    Nut-Nights Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You need to gather information about all this from various source.
     
  6. SEO Power

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    A paid account at the best link research tool, Ahrefs, is absolutely necessary. As others have mentioned, it's all about the back links. I also look for the following before buying an expired/expiring domain name:

    PR: 2+
    CF: 15+
    TF: 15+
    DA: 20+
    PA: 30+

    If a domain name satisfies all of the above requirements and has good backlinks pointing to it without any spammy ones in the mix, then I would be completely sure that it's a great domain name.

    Tip: Look for domain names previously used by non-profit organizations. They tend to have strong backlinks from gov and edu sites (got this tip from Bring The Fresh affiliate marketing course by Kelly Felix).
     
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  7. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    ALL metrics can be artificially inflated with spam or hacked backlinks, or a combination of both.

    There's only two things that can't be faked,

    1. A genuine natural link profile. You need a real backlink checker, I'd recommend an AHrefs subscription.
    2. A clean site history which can be viewed from archive.org

    So what does a quality natural backlink look like?

    1. Editorially placed
    2. In the actual "meat" of the page, not sidebar or footer
    3. On an authoritative site as determined by age, PR, search visibility, and reputation
    4. Placed within content relevant to the site it's linking to
    5. Doesn't share the page with comment spam
    6. On a heavily moderated site that not anybody can post to (not always the case, but often)
     
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  8. gogamer

    gogamer Registered Member

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    Thank you all for the answers. You helped a lot. I will try my best :)