Looking for help with ISP proxies.

souphtone said:

I had a conversation with @ShaNi from Red-proxies.com and thought I'd share it here just in case someone could benefit from it. I trimmed it down a little for convenience.


1. How is it possible for ISPs to sell out residential IP addresses to proxy providers? I understand that some ISPs don't allow this.. so why do you think some allow it and others do not?
2. Is it just as likely for ISP proxies to be banned, as regular DC proxies?
3. Do most ISP proxy providers do the same thing as you?
4. Are ISP proxies detectable in other ways? Or completely look like residential proxies?


Red-Proxy.net
Your point 1) ans : not single ISP allow or give you big ips space for proxies .. all ISP providers give you /24 range or maximum /23 range for servers connectivity

some provider announced own ranges on ISP residential cellular ASN after geo update their ips showing residential

point 2 ) ans : every type of ip banned able , if you very badly use them . that is depend on usage of ips ( proxies )

point 3 ) ans : Yeah . every ISP provider announce their own ranges or lease from brokers .after they announce on ISP circuit .after geo update ips will show ISP ips .. ( residential is rare not easy ) but mostly announced ranges will show ATT - sprint - cox etc

4 point ) ans : as we said you on the above .. if you announce own ranges on ISP cellular ASN then your ips show residential .. there is different between cellular ASN and business AS

every ISP charging very high $$$$$

soughtone
Interesting. Thank you. So an ISP has the power to announce their IP addresses as ISP IPs.

"some provider announced own ranges on ISP residential cellular ASN after geo update their ips showing residential" - can a proxy provider (like you) announce their IP addresses as residential too, or only ISPs can do that?

Red-Proxy.net
the more easy for understanding : for example you announce your own range on dc network . after announced you range and geo update . your range of ips address show that dc ASN of ips and same like ISP act

@Red-Proxy.net
the more easy for understanding : for example you announce your own range on dc network . after announced you range and geo update . your range of ips address show that dc ASN of ips and same like ISP act

soughtone

To put it simple: Only Internet service providers can make residential IP addresses. You then buy them (254 in a /24 range for example) and then connect them to a data center. When you announce them (so it works in the network) they are still residential IP addresses of the ISP (verizon, att) you bought them from.

Red-Proxy.net
yes

soughtone
Okay, it's very straightforward really.
Just expensive.

And the main benefit is to have the 10GBps+ speed, and have a residential IP address.

It just seems like so much work to get some advantage over sneakerheads who use residential proxies.

Red-Proxy.net
ISP services are headache
1) Most important . if you're planning lease ISP line : you have arrange ranges for ISP port
2 ) hardware . you must arrange hardware for the ISP port to connect this port .. for example . you want my port in VA - Ashburn - then you have to find dc to lease or buy servers
3 ) Cross connect . that is easy . ISP or dc will handle cross connect

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pvpolympian said:

Thanks for all this info, do you mind if i ever PM for help?

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pvpolympian said:

I am looking for someone that can help me understand how to source and host ISP proxies mainly for sneaker botting, from the research I have done on my own, what I think has to happen is you lease IPv4's, for the ISP network, then host them, I am mainly looking for them to work on sites like Footlocker, Champs, Eastbay, Kids footlocker, Footaction, Shopify, and Finishline. The ISPS that i see being used for this in the sneaker space is Verizon, Sprint, Lumen, AT&T, Cogent, Cox, and windstream, Please PM or reply if you are willing to help.

Also, I do not want residential proxies, like packetstream netnut etc, only ISPs, ty.

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pvpolympian said:

Thanks for all this info, do you mind if i ever PM for help?

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JP0030 said:

I have some new info regarding your request for support. However, the system wont allow me to PM you. Can you PM me?


I have some new info regarding your request for support. However, the system wont allow me to PM you. Can you PM me?

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You can ask any question regarding ISP services . i will reply to you
You're new member on BHW that's why you're not send pm to any BHW member

ShaNi said:

Sure i will help you no problem to help bhw members

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YamsFx said:

just came across this, are you still by chance helping individual questions? have a few in regards to cogent as u mentioned above

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Yes you can ask any question about ISP services i will try to help you

pvpolympian said:

I am looking for someone that can help me understand how to source and host ISP proxies mainly for sneaker botting, from the research I have done on my own, what I think has to happen is you lease IPv4's, for the ISP network, then host them, I am mainly looking for them to work on sites like Footlocker, Champs, Eastbay, Kids footlocker, Footaction, Shopify, and Finishline. The ISPS that i see being used for this in the sneaker space is Verizon, Sprint, Lumen, AT&T, Cogent, Cox, and windstream, Please PM or reply if you are willing to help.

Also, I do not want residential proxies, like packetstream netnut etc, only ISPs, ty.

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ShaNi said:

Yes you can ask any question about ISP services i will try to help you

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Bkoz said:

I am in need of the same help. Im trying to either buy large amounts of proxies for sneakers but am also open to the idea of reselling to pay for what im using. Is there a way to message you?

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proxygo said:

there is no buying/selling or doing deals in general chat threads, its not allowed
these are done in the market place / want to buy / hire a freelancer sections only

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ShaNi said:

You can ask any question regarding ISP services . i will reply to you
You're new member on BHW that's why you're not send pm to any BHW member

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UnkownUser said:

Hey @ShaNi I have a question, how do you route subnet through providers like ATT, SPRINT VERIZON. so I want to circuit my subnet trough sprint I assign the subnet to ASN1239 I believe that is sprint's ASN after that I have to talk with sprint to let my subnet work in their network? then route the subnet to my dedicated server?

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The Sprint NOC team will create a Static route after that you bind the range on your server then range of IPS address pinging start
but make sure that, the IPS owner makes RPKI for your Sprint ISP ASN, The Sprint NOC team will check RPKI or sometimes send an email
to the owner of IPS for confirmation for this RPKI/LOA

I hope that this will help you

ShaNi said:

Are you using a leased broker range on your Sprint circuit? This is a very simple thing.
Just provide LOA to the Sprint NOC team. They will announce your range on your circuit after that you can use your leased own range on your circuit

The Sprint NOC team will create a Static route after that you bind the range on your server then range of IPS address pinging start
but make sure that, the IPS owner makes RPKI for your Sprint ISP ASN, The Sprint NOC team will check RPKI or sometimes send an email
to the owner of IPS for confirmation for this RPKI/LOA

I hope that this will help you

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UnkownUser said:

@ShaNi I am bit confuse in the process so this is what I know so far, I get the block from a broker>I assign the block to the network ASN> broker provide LOA AND RPKI/ROA> now? Do I have to contact the isp provider? for example If I want to use Verizon where can I contact them?>after this I am guessing they will BGP the block to the dedicated server I own?

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There is no confusion The Same LOA is provided by the broker, You forward the same LOA to the ISP provider. Where you lease the ISP circuit.

You can revisit the same thread on the first page. I already explained all ISP things

ShaNi said:

There is no confusion The Same LOA is provided by the broker, You forward the same LOA to the ISP provider. Where you lease the ISP circuit.
for example: if you already lease a line from Verizon ( Location Ashburn - VA ). if your dc space ( servers ) is already connected with lease line Verizon.
Just LOA does not work for you till then you do not provide the LOA for the range to the Verizon NOC team ( or your account manager )
The ISP will announce your prefix on your ISP circuit on ISP ASN. You cannot announce the prefix

I am thinking. you don't have any leased line because you said that " If I want to use Verizon where can I contact them "
There is not make any sense. if you have an ISP circuit and you dunno how to contact them??
You can search the Verizon website through google and contact them for a lease ISP circuit through your business email or phone call.

You can revisit the same thread on the first page. I already explained all ISP things

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ShaNi said:

One bad news


ty for appreciate . i think pretty quite everyone understand . how to lease own line from any ISP
i am happy everyone appreciate our " Free Help for ISP services "

One bad news : Who're using Lumen /CenturyLink of ISP port circuit : CenturyLink/Lumen no longer allows static routes (announcing IPs on their ASN) due to abuse from botting. They are in the midst of shutting down that program so please be careful to lease the ISP from this ISP . i hopefully this news help you

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ShaNi said:

you're asking big high quality ISP proxies for sneakers sites . i try my best to explain to you but ISP circuit involves high $$$$$ setup /month
i used to ISP circuit setup as you know we're proxies seller but ISPs like ( Verizon, Sprint, Lumen, AT&T, Cox, and windstream )
do not provide you big ipv4 space /19 to /18 even /22 . normally they're allowed /24 to /23 range . We personally try ATT ISP last year
with proper all doucs justification but ATT is not agreed to provide us big ipv4 space /19 or /18. just /24 range and this is very less range
for sneakers uses

Cogent will approve you big range with port circuit but cogent ASN almost done banned or cogent selling repeated ipv4 space
we also tested last year and cancelled the contract but my team still contact with cogent to provide full virgin ranges

Let me explain to you the ISPs port circuit setup process.
1 ) un-registered company ISPs are not interested in providing any type of services but single handle home use they're offering .
2 ) you have to contact any ISP through his running site for port speed ( 100MB . 1GB or 10GB ) that depends on which port you like to contact with ISP .
3 ) No ISPs like ATT - Verizon - Sprint or other ISPs selling any kind of server space . only they're selling port speed .
4 ) Cogent is selling ipv4 space with server space . you should ask them

ISP port circuit pricing with contract + cross-connect service + setup time
1 ) any ISP contract with you at least 12 to 36 months
2 ) ISP pricing are so high for example : you're interested in 100MB port speed with 12 month contract
The minimum and very less price is 300 to 2000$ /month + setup fee 500$ to 2k$ . you should ask him .
I am just giving you an example for understanding .
3 ) You have to find out any dc who're offering cross connect service with ISP port circuit setup
4 ) When you find dc and dc also charging server space with cross connect service
5) cross connect fee 180$ to 750$/month + setup fee 1k$
6 ) Dc space is also very high charge monthly + setup fee ( roughly 2k$ ) full rack or half rank etc
7 ) at least 30 to 45 days will be needs to complete in all setup after you signed a contract with any ISP

Roughly and minimum estimate for any ISP charges on first month 3k to 8k$ then 2nd month 2k to 4k /month
if you're single hand user for ISP sneakers proxies user then i am not recommended to you to lease ISPs services

The most important part is ipv4 space ranges . If you don't have your own space from any IPV4 Dcs like Arin or RIPE
then the 2nd option is ipv4 brokers . maybe you heard that ipv4 is finished ARIN and RIPE are not provide you big ranges
Arin only accept application for /22 range and RIPE only accept /24 range so that is also headache .keep in mind ipv4 broker
also charging very high per /22 range with long term contract

Verizon, Sprint, Lumen, AT&T, Cogent, Cox, and windstream every single proxies seller using their services and that is a big question.
On the above ISPS the whole sneakers community is using . you also think when their ASN will ban or ips

We recently contracted with NTT 10GB circuit and our setup process is almost completed . i think the best choice is for single user
to buy ISP of proxies from the sellers , or if you still thinking to handle all these kinds of herders with high $$$$$$ per month spend

I bed you no one tells you all these kinds of things to explain to you because no one knows these all kinds of ISPs things
they're all reseller ISP setup but i tell you straight forward and help you. i always support to sneakers community
if you want more help i will help you in free

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