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KEYWORD & SEO Advice

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by snowflys, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. snowflys

    snowflys Junior Member

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    :cat3:I work hard trying to do good seo and have always implemented 3 groups of keywords within a site. 2 for high traffic, 3 for medium traffic and 3 or 4 for lower traffic. When doing this, I also bold, highlight or underline the keywords. I create a title and description using as many medium and low traffic keywords as I know I can hit #1 relatively quickly even if a new site. My question is has the practice for bolding, highlighting and underlining now been ignored by google or is it still recognizing this. Within my optimization, I also place my keyword by priority placements and strategically throughout the site. I am also finding that some people don't believe in this anymore. Help Please?
     
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  2. azxten

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    I think Google still recognizes it and gives you some ranking for those terms but it is marginal when compared to backlinking and especially title/url/h1/h2 tags. Stuff has to be really low competition or have words from your primary target that is ranked high.

    Meaning if your title/h1/url had "fluffy bunnies" and you built links for that, etc. You could put "pink fluffy bunnies" in bold somewhere and rank for that as well if it's low competition or you had enough power just for "fluffy bunnies" that it starts to consider you an authority for that topic. However, the difference between putting it in bold and just having it on your site somewhere is marginal I think.
     
  3. snowflys

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    I use the h1, h2, plus strategic, placements, i.e; beginning work, in title, description, and footer. For grabbing top on keywords, this has worked really well but also I concentrate on backlinks too. I have been told this no longer works and only mega backlinks work and that keywords are no longer needed strategically placed in content or bolded so want to get some advice from others who might know.
     
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    You may want to also consider sprinkling in some LSI keywords throughout your content. Google rewards me with high rankings when I do this and that's the way I build every single content page now.

    I find the LSI keywords by putting my primary keyword in the Google Adwords keyword tool and taking the top 5 or 10 results. I use those LSI keywords in my content and I've had no trouble getting first page rankings even for competitive keywords.

    I have some new sites I've built and it works for them too. But I like to buy aged domain names to build my new sites on and I write my own original content not any rewritten stuff so that gives me a little advantage also.
     
  5. snowflys

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    Sorry, but what is LSI? I probably understand but just use the long term. I use google anaylitics research tool for my keywords. I first select the shortest most relevant word and then let google give me the suggestions and traffic. This is not an exact science as I found a keyword I owned, wasn't using, had Very high traffic, in one year was totally gone from traffic info. Weird. Do you have a place to pay reasonable prices for 'used' keywords? I have found them kind of spendy.
     
  6. ipopbb

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    I do research in reverse engineering Google's "Content Score" portion of their rank equation.

    Best HTML Tags for SEO - The Current Rankings...

    "Best HTML Tags" are refreshed every 15 minutes.

    rank - Indicates where it fell in the SERPs.

    test - Indicates what was being tested.

    code - Indicates the ordinal of the test page's link on the index of tests that was submitted to Google

    rank test code
    1 title 001
    2 title 001
    3 dl > dt > dd 055
    4 blockquote 014
    5 p 011
    6 thead > td 050
    7 tfoot > td 051
    8 samp 027
    9 dfn 025
    10 u 007
    11 h5 061
    12 h6 062
    13 caption 021
    14 q 043
    15 tfoot > td 051
    16 acronym 016
    17 sub 047
    18 var 029
    19 strike 046
    20 p 011
    21 legend 030
    22 h4 060
    23 b 006
    24 h1 003
    25 samp 027
    26 strike 046
    27 i 008
    28 ins 034
    29 ins 034
    30 big 019
    31 h6 062
    32 span 012
    33 center 022
    34 h5 061
    35 label.for 035
    36 body 002
    37 h3 005
    38 del 024
    39 em 026
    40 big 019
    41 h4 060
    42 small 045
    43 td 049
    44 q 043
    45 dl > dt 054
    46 abbr 015
    47 acronym 016
    48 code 023
    49 font 031
    50 legend 030
    51 caption 058
    52 h1 003
    53 textarea 033
    54 i 008
    55 kbd 028
    56 strong 009
    57 address 017
    58 pre 042
    59 h2 004
    60 ul.li 036
    61 tt 018
    62 div 013
    63 span 012
    64 h2 004
    65 ul.li 036
    66 pre 042
    67 caption 058
    68 strong 009
    69 s 044
    70 em 026
    71 caption 021
    72 index index
    73 img.alt 053
    74 select > option 040
    75 a 056
    76 img.alt 053
    77 meta-author.value 039
    78 meta-description.value 037
    79 object > param.name 041
    80 document document
    81 meta-value.value 038
    82 input-input.value 032
    83 a.href 057
    84 a.href 057
    85 unknown other

    tag A > tag B - Nesting of Tag B within Tag A

    tag . attribute - Using an attribute inside the opening tag

    index - A page linking to all the tests

    document - An empty page with the secret keywords in the document name
    path - An empty page with the secret keywords in the the url path

    unknown - Not a test, but probably a registrar log entry about the creation of the domain name

    NOTE: Some tests don't appear in the Google results. All Tags and Attributes are continually tested. We obtained our list of tags from w3schools

    NOTE: Some tests appear more than once in the results at times. This happens when Google ranks both www.domain.com/test014.html and www.domain.com/test014.html. In the near future I may resolve this by using canonical tags to credit the best url for the content. Currently I don't understand why google crawls both. I only submitted the www. version.

    see: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/116692-wh-info-bh-mind.html for details on my method.
     
  7. bhatsuccess

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    Yes, these methods are still recognized by Google. I've had particular success with the <strong>keyword</strong> tags and italic tags as well. I don't particularly use underline but I suppose it still helps.
     
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  8. snowflys

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    Can you IM your system. It is partially blanked out. or even send me and email here or whatever works so my computer can read it. Thank you so much!!
     
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    Very choicy info in this thread. :) A lot of us are understanding SEO as the perfect alternative to the fussy, temporary CL effects. Smart SEO is much better results for our efforts and nothing here is black hat so far but it still makes higher page ranks quicker than the traditional 6 months. :cool:
     
  10. kanshu

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    (Thinking out loud.) Hmm. I think it's a good idea to have some keyword structure. It keeps the site focused on its objectives.
     
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    Very low impact on serps I will say it is fine tunning...

    Nemanja
     
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    I just put everything in blue, works for me too.
     
  13. mexia

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    Just put metatags like h1 to embrace your main keyword and then use h2 and h3 for other relevant but not big keywords in your content. You can underline a bit just don't over do it. Otherwise i think you are on to something.

    All the best.