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[Journey] Succeeding in every growth method on IG

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by socialdaddy, Dec 18, 2018.

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  1. socialdaddy

    socialdaddy Regular Member

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    Welcome Blackhatworld!

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    **BE AWARE** This journey threads isn’t short. We’ll promise that if you take the time you’ll get to know a ton of stuff about instagram, growing accounts, power likes, child accounts and powerlikes as this is what we do. If you want to skip the „journey part“ and directly hop to the „What are we doing part“ just scroll until you hit „Status quo“
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    As @DemonicScourge and I are pretty new to Blackhatworld we thought a proper journey thread would maybe be something interesting for the community. Introducing ourselves in an „Introduction-Thread“ seemed to be a bit „boring“ to us - we thought about motivating and introducing ourselves in a proper journey thread while keeping anybody the possibility to drop their questions.

    Where everything started:
    Creating a journey thread without a journey would be a little strange so let’s start of in the very beginning of @DemonicScourge and my journey towards instagram. We founded a digital start-up in 2013 with the aim to create a seamless experience for consumers to book local services online. Whenever they want, whatever they want. Working day and night for our own company for over 2 years while getting a first contact to instagram by growing accounts for dedicated city’s as a marketing tool. We launched and grew them (back in the days as total noobs with Instagress) as a marketing tool for our city-launch campaigns for our company. They where created to support or marketing campaigns with owned media.

    After several funding rounds we sold our company to our way bigger competitor, which - let’s make it simple - bought our marketplace, customers and marketing (excluding the city instagram accounts).

    The big deep hole:
    Imagine you worked day and night on a dream, employing way beyond 20 people with under 23 and from one to another day you’ll need a new dream. Searching for a new task in our life we decided to go back to university as we both could make use of a Masters Degree. (Never make the mistake to go back to university, it’s f** annoying)

    Awakening: (February 2018)
    Bored by outdated social media marketing theories, we retrieved our city instagram accounts again and worked with a small daily amount of time on them. Which lead us to a new plan: Why don’t work with instagram while doing our master? Just for fun, to have a task.

    No targets, just one account: (March 2018)
    Testing what we can accomplish we decided to grow a total brand new account from scratch. Diggin’ everything about instagram in a short time span and discovering (We have been totally new to this) Engagement as a crucial metrics for growth. We discovered telegram and started our first dm (or so called Dx) group over there. One simple goal has been set: Growth - no numbers, no cash, just growth.

    The Expansion: (Mai 2018)
    Still working with one account and it worked - our growth triggered us to invest more time into what we have been doing the last couple of weeks and decided to grow more accounts with a daily supervision while although expanding our telegram network and adding a new goal: Zero engagement time. As an admin we don’t need to engage in our Telegram groups as we invest a ton of time and money (for the control bots) in managing them. So growing on Telegram was another target.

    Status Quo: (December 2018)
    Talking a lot about the beginning of our instagram journey and looking back into the past I’ll skip some months and directly go to a Status Quo section. Trying to keep this as short as possible and will try to organize our actions as good as possible:

    #Accounts
    Currently we run 25 high quality accounts which grew 700k in Followers since Mai 2018, while publishing around 3k postings. We have several accounts ranging between 30 and 50k and 2 Accounts which reached 200k mid of November while growing around 23-30k monthly atm. Most of them in the travel niche.

    #Telegram Engagement Network
    Running 17 Niche related engagement pods with 42k Members. Delivering around 200 Comments and 400 likes from real niche related human operated accounts. Actually network size should be around 350 Million in Followings (hard to predict a real final number)

    Telegram is actually although our biggest income stream.
    (Before that „quality“-question hits the thread: All our groups on telegram are strictly controlled)

    #Powerlikes
    As we own this huge engagement network on telegram we developed a system for powerlikes which is currently in final beta testing. Our Engagement groups are organized in a DxNUMBER Format which lacks in delivering the whole amount of engagement to a single account.Our new system fully automizes this process and will deliver powerlikes in a. 1vs1 system (one like for one like).

    #Child-Accounts
    Most of the members here are reading daily threads about „Fan-Pages“ or „Child-Accounts“ on a daily base. Actually this method is the reason why @DemonicScourge and I joined Blackhatworld in the first place. Working on this since September 2018.
    • Accounts running: 400
    • Proxy’s: IPv6
    • Software: Jarvee
    • 400 F / UF per Day
    • Max. 50 DM’s per day

    The Future:

    As we are two guy’s always trying to optimize things and overdelivering for our goals we decided to set goals in this thread as a personal motivation, thought about organizing them as I organized the status quo section.

    #Accounts:
    We strictly separate follower numbers between our quality accounts and child accounts. As we see both as two different streams.

    - Grow the 200k+ Accounts in the next 6 Month to 400k+
    - Grow all smaller accounts in the next 6 month to at least 100k+

    #Telegram Engagement Network
    Quality over quantity. We need to redefine what we want to accomplish with our network. Crucial for instagram is the engagement time span and we lack there atm.
    • Restructure group set up (on going)
    • Increase group quality with new bot setup (on going)
    • Decrease amount of leeches with new bot setup (on going)
    #Powerlikes
    Simplicity is key
    • Close beta testing in the next month
    • Convert at least 100 Million in Followers into the system in the next 6 month
    • Sell at least 10 powerlikes spots in the next 6 month

    #Child-Accounts
    This is our biggest project at the moment which - as most of you know - takes a shit ton of time.
    • Accounts running in the next month 1000-2000
    • Optimize up-time as close as possible to 100%
    • Prepare Service offer to rent-out child accounts (in the next 2 month)


    The Community:
    If you did spent the time reading this thread, please feel free to open a discussion for every part of it. We love them! Drop your questions or thoughts. Tell us about your journey. We truly believe that communication solves a ton of problems in every business case.

    Have a good time!

    #socialdaddy
    #demonicscourge


    Inspired by @proxified @PolarPo
     
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  2. Naroha

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    Nice read. Did you manage to setup your child accounts properly as you had a thread one month back asking whats best practice in that case
     
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    What exactly are those powerlikes about?
     
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    Good luck for your journey..subscribed to learn about IG automation...
     
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    Thanks!

    Yeah we had around 100 working back then but had some struggles figuring out how to build a process of transferring accounts from Jarvee to gmt2 while getting hit by a ton of PV's for our new accounts. Thats solved - the process stands and now it's time to grow this thing!

    Basically it's a fully automated engagement platform - which allows us to cluster accounts by follower count and niche and then delivers for subscribers power likes.

    Stick to it! Dope to have you on board.
     
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    Good luck with your journey mate following.
     
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    Very interesting, will definitely be following guys!
     
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    Great to have you both on board! :)
     
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    How do you go about creating your child accounts? I assume you make each one manually? If so, how are you doing that? (IE: On a desktop or on a mobile and how)

    Also, good luck!
     
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    Interesting, curious how are you going to be renting out the child accounts? Are you going to be making new accounts for every customers or are you using previous accounts
     
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    Is there any way to get into this #Telegram Engagement Network?
     
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    I own one of the first Telegram Market Groups, honestly, I was stupid enough not to start my own Engagement group over there but hey! TG is an amazing place for IG guys, amazing community!
    Drop me your TG group in the PM (if it's possible based on forum rules @BassTrackerBoats ). :)

    Based on your journey

    I understand everything, but why on earth would you use IPv6 proxies for growing accounts? Sounds really amateur to me since there is a lot of limitations on IPv6 proxies :)
     
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    If you use IPv6, will your account be banned? Which service provider's IPv6 do you use?
     
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    Good luck! Following this highly organized thread.

    If you don't mind this question how do you reach out to or how do the niche instagram users find you? It's impressive to gather such a large active community. I find that a lot of the Telegram groups I'm in die out after a few weeks. Do you DM people in your niche? Do you have a Facebook group people can join?
     
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    We do it in severals ways, mainly via igramtool and by hand - just looking for diversification as if one method isn't working anymore not the whole setup is f*****

    Both - if we already have a free setup up in the needed niche there wouldn't be a need to create new ones. Bothways are basically possible.

    Sure drop me a DM!

    Will wait for @BassTrackerBoats and reply then! :)
    Regarding the IPv6 proxies, actually we think it's not amateur - it's the hard part of doing this method. Going around the "public" limitations is tough and not always working BUT on scale it's the only way to manage thousands of accounts. And as child accounts really don't need to do more as post 9 images, f/uf on a daily base and send DM you can for sure go with IPv6.

    Ban rate is under 5% per 100 Accounts added to the system.
    Don't know if I'm allowed to advertise public my providers. If a mod say's yes I'm happy to share them.


    If you are talking about our Engagement Pods, actually the community on Telegram is really big - we mainly advertise our services over there. Ofc we have some child accounts sending out dm's. Think most of the members have been invited by other members.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Good luck for your journey Op.
     
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    Can I add your skype? Ask some questions.
     
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