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Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by luker2000, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. luker2000

    luker2000 Junior Member

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    Got to start somewhere I suppose, after burning through countless accounts and sim cards (currently have 25 physical sim cards sat on my desk) and proxies finally the day has come... [​IMG]
    ... I got my first conversion... not just one but two. Now to continue to experiment and work out why they converted and then scale that bitch up! I tried countless things that other people were doing with no success but put my own twist on it and tried something different and it worked.

    Suppose now i'm posting this might as well be a journey thread that's if it gets any better aha... Will update when I get better results.

    The one thing I've been struggling with is creating landing pages any tips?

    Also in the works building an account network with one main account will post about this as well when its all set up, with stats etc.
     
  2. Bozard

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    First of all, I would like to say congratulations on taking action! Most people read and read, get over loaded and never take action. As far as your landing page issue. I have been creating websites and custom software for years. I suggest you buy a domain and install wordpress on the domain. Then every link on your landing page needs to go to a money making option. So if you offer videos to be streamed, then use a third party host that pays you for that. If you are offering downloads then you use a link locker. Etc.. this way the only option your victim has is to leave, or make you money. Then you need to make it all look legit. A few pointers i can give are this. What ever your main offer is you are driving. You need to make your lander have matching header and footer and design. This way the transition is seamless and you get more money. Ok sorry for the ramble. I hope I helped you at least a little.
     
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  3. luker2000

    luker2000 Junior Member

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    Thank you Bozard, certainly done a lot of reading aha, I have a nice one at the moment where I used a free landing page template changed it to mine and then ripped it and uploaded it to my domain panel i don't even know how I managed it kind of fluked it but it looks really nice and clean. But will look into wordpress defiantly! I got a .com relating to my niche to make it more convincing as well although I imagine not a long term solution to buy a .com domain every 3 accounts? Ill have a look into making the transition more seamless to increase conversions. Thanks very much for the ramble :) Just got another conversion!
     
  4. Bozard

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    Awesome! Good job! I buy generic .com so I can use it for many many accounts. So if you do adult do it like this:

    eliteonlinecamgirls.com/sexycindy
    eliteonlinecamgirls.com/HotRodLinda
    eliteonlinecamgirls.com/BigBustedBambie

    Etc... then also you can use it for other stuff down the road. Also! This is very damned important. Your dot com no matter how good will get banned. Here is how I get around that.

    Dot tk domains are free. These domains will redirect to your site no issue. I make dot tk for my landing pages so for example:

    IFuckOntheFirstDate.tk redirects to my amazing landing page eliteonlinecamgirls.com/sexycindy That has money links to all my offers.

    This way you have a constant flow of urls. I dont post the same url too many times. The site can not blacklist the .tk domain extension only your individual dot tk.

    I have been doing this for a long time. Feel free and PM me if you like.
     
  5. luker2000

    luker2000 Junior Member

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    Gone up to 5 conversions now, gonna have to scale and get more accounts I think, that's with 3 accounts right now. Ah I think ill have to do that. Yep i think the link has already started playing up to be honest with it giving a warning before going through to the landing page. Nice i think .tk domains are the way forward then, guessing on your landing page you have a button that takes to next page which has the offers on?
    I can't Pm yet but have you got skype would like to talk more?
     
  6. Ethor

    Ethor Newbie

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    Let me show you mine bro... for the first month, when i started and reached a small payout.... i was so happy and motivated to scale it up , then i started taking it seriously... and it helped me alot ...
    [​IMG]

    NOTE* : Don't Put too much time in watching stats.. Just analyse and improve... i remember that i wasted days watching stats but not doing anything to improve it.
     
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    @Ethor mate with 0 click you made 26377 $ how It can possible??
     
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    @Kuldheep89 I don't think so I have vision or mental problem.

    What I know is without any click we can't performance any CPA action. And in the 2nd pic no clicks.
     
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    103 922 impression and the cpm is 0.254 . 0.254 * 100 = $25.4 .

    So for 100 000 impression you get $25.4
     
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    Nice job will be following your journey.I am also new to ogads.Can anyone tell me some good offer to make one with.Currently I m doing Instagram followers offer and it makes me very less money and also few methods to promote the offer.Will be thankful.
     
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  12. Ethor

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    ITS CPM MODEL MATE.... not cpa/ cpi
     
  13. Ethor

    Ethor Newbie

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    ITS CPM (popup/ popunder).
    WITH CPA you have Hits > Uniques > Conversions > Approved Conversions > Payout.
    With cpm (you know your visitors not going to click on it). Still u get paid for impressions.

    Pay model totally depends on how you analyse your traffic.
     
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  14. Hammaa

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    Nice. Good luck OP.
     
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    Ethor Newbie

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    Yes... propeller's had Delayed reporting about 2 hours i guess... that's y another $1.3777 may be.
    but whatever... IT WAS a WOW FOR ME so i snapped it :)
     
  16. luker2000

    luker2000 Junior Member

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    Okay I won't but conversions gone back to 0 today went to 7 yesterday I think i'm going to change to something with a little more longevity then the niche I have now :)

    Thanks! Any offer that you think will be appealing to an audience free slippers, free slimming ebook anything, be creative ;) Tweak your settings to select people that are new to the app so haven't been spammed before little posts and low follow count!

    Thanks :)
     
  17. luker2000

    luker2000 Junior Member

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    Update 14/08/17:

    To Note:
    Quick recap, I'm doing IG+OG... Going to update this weekly to keep myself motivated as well as hopefully help others and contribute more to BHW than I have, although there has been countless of these journey threads hopefully I can help where I can.

    Been 6 weeks and 3 days since last update, since then I have scraped my first niche it was very 'seasonal'. Bought a load of accounts and got some more proxies had a few bans and PV's. Swapped from AWS VPS to a paid one as I needed a bit more power, I've had some more conversions and nailed my targeting a little. Now going to try slowly but steadily to scale up and keep reinvesting my profits for testing etc.

    First problems I have had since last update is buying some aged accounts from a good seller, I have tried lots and you can really tell the difference between account quality straight away as some get instant PV where as a good batch will have 3 or 4 out of 20 ask for an email confirmation thats it. I've found what has worked best for me is 3+ year old accounts, 2 accounts per proxy, 1 number per account, 1 domain per account, 1 landing page per account, 1 short link per account, 1 content locker per account, warp up for a week plus, don't use bad keywords like free, hack, money (my banned accounts had the same keyword in that the others didn't). Probably overkill and I could save myself a bunch of time having things shared across accounts but I'd rather play safe and not churn and burn accounts if possible.

    Next problem was landing pages, from reading other journeys I found that LP's are important what works best for me is using weebly create a nice looking page full it with high quality images and content that makes it believable fake reviews all that jazz. But most important is make your content locker very similar to your LP, in regards to picture used and colour scheme as well as wording. This has a nicer flow to it which increases conversion %. The problem I have had though is LP's banned for abuse they only ban one out of the 10 duplicates but still a pain, I think they may be getting reported but not sure.

    Another problem I have had was the Instagram browser can't redirect to app store on iOS I believe but this is fixed with OG short url redirects them to safari otherwise it creates a weird loop thing. Which wastes traffic.

    Problem #876 storing account information I left .txt files all over the place in skype chats and all sorts and was a pain to keep track of what account was what and numbers and proxies and bans and PV's and niches and log in details etc etc. So spent many of hours creating a huge excel to store every little detail about all accounts probably overkill yet again but it just makes life a lot easier. What is the best way to store account data?

    I know someone will ask what I do for PV's as all the sms sites are dead and have been abused, for me I live in the UK which you can easily order free sims from many suppliers which is handy each service provider limits per address but so far I have more than enough. The only pain is sorting them out I currently have them all numbered in little poly bags so I can switch them out quickly. I looked into a way to have access to physical sims on a PC requires specialised equipment which is like $3k for 100 sim holder.

    Also I got fed up of going through accounts to manually check links to see if they worked okay and hadn't been blocked by IG. I managed to find a tool that does this all automatic and shows which ones have errors and what links have been deleted and other little things which is handy.

    Another bonus to the journey I didn't consider is the growth of the accounts which don't get banned, majority of the active accounts have amassed 2k followers each over the 47 days they are real people from checking the accounts related to my CPA niches. So I suppose if they continue at that rate then they can be switched from cpa to a niche account related to the followers and make it all nice and see what the engagement is like and sell them on.

    Other than all those problems been a great two months! Had three day's of a solid $15 this was due to all active accounts following and none unfollowing need to achieve that constantly. Im still in the red profit wise but I've learnt a lot, not only about this project but the whole sales funnel idea and call to action things and landing pages. Hopefully can apply this to future projects that have more longevity. I know I have a long way to go to reach my main goal of $680 a month with a bit of luck and hard work ill get there.

    Bit too long I Know (Could have wrote a SEO guide at this length...) but will keep them shorter from now on and have them more frequent.

    Plans:
    Over the next week
    -Finalise Niches
    -Finish profiling warmed up accounts (Create Names, Bio's, Profile Pics)
    -Create 50 LP's
    -Buy 50 more accounts to warm up
    -Get Better sources, maybe do hashtag research
    -Get beefier VPS
    -Work harder
    -Increase Average $ Per account

    Juicy bit:
    Total Accounts: 118 +98
    Accounts Warming: 61 +61
    Accounts Active: 17 -3
    Bans: 8 +8
    PV’s: 15 +15
    Domains Owned: 20

    Money $tuff:
    Initial costs: $157.60
    Total Spent: $237.60
    Monthly costs: $60
    Earnings: $227.16
    Daily Average: $6.68
    Profit: -$10.44
    Last 47 Day's:[​IMG]
    Current Goals:
    $1 a day ()
    $10 a day ( )
    $680 Profit A Month ( )

    Questions I have:
    Anyone know a good VPS supplier?
     
  18. luker2000

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    Update 21/08/17:

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    Okay not doing as well as I wanted since last update but still trucking away with what ever time I have between other things.

    Lets start, In the last 7 days I have Made 10 LP's came up with a few niche ideas as well as a really good idea which I think should work and gain a lot more conversions per person. Will just have to work away at it will take a while to set up but will be worth it.

    Also have decided to not put all eggs in one basket as I know CPA is a bit dodgy earnings wise. So now going to run IG acc's for others already got my first client wasn't as hard as I thought I undervalued the service I offered at $69.99 a month for posting at growing the account but oh well its a start.... will put my monthly costs up a bit but will be worth it. I will put it part of this journey as Both are IG.

    Beefed up my VPS but having issues with software not following enough which means my earnings are super down as its running at 1/10th of what it should be. Will try to fix this by next week.

    Haven't bought anymore accounts but I have got more bans and more PV's, sad times but its inevitable.

    Profiled a load more of my warming accounts put 10 in action seem to be doing well need to up the followers per day currently at about 170 a day needs to be 700 a day to see any sort of money.

    I am border line making a profit atm, but everything is in place to start making a larger profit at least Im not pissing money into the wind, won't be long and I will be far into the green just patients and hard work.

    Plans:
    For Next week
    -Profile the last of warming accounts.
    -Create 40 LP's (done 10 last week)
    -Buy more accounts as backup
    -Hashtag research (Got better sources last week)
    -May still need a better VPS or change location not sure
    -Work hard
    -Put new idea for a LP in place
    -Set up accounts to get more clients for management service

    Juicy Bit:
    Total Accounts: 118
    Accounts Warming: 51 -10
    Accounts Active: 25 +8
    Bans: 10 +2
    PV’s: 20 +5
    Domains Owned: 30

    Money $tuff: (not 100% accurate but almost, will work on improving this)
    Initial costs: $165.88 +$8.28
    Total Spent: $257.60 +$20
    Monthly costs: $80 +$20
    Earnings: $263.71 +$36.55
    Daily Average: $4.88 -$1.80
    Profit: $6.11 +$16.55
    Last 10 Day's:
    [​IMG]

    Current Goals:
    $1 a day (✓)
    $10 a day ( )
    $680 Profit A Month ( )

    Questions I have:
    Anyone know a good VPS supplier?
    What is a good price to charge for running of a IG account, posting content they provide and increasing their engagement and follows through targeted automation?
     
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  19. Classic Men

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    If "2000" in your username is your birthdate then it seems like we are same age running similar journeys :D
     
  20. luker2000

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    2 years shy actually but similar ages though, I've seen your journey and you seem to be doing very well keep it up!
    question for you whats long term goal for you? is it to move away from CPA and do something more permanent?