Is Facebook Organic Growth Pretty Much Dead?

Hey guys, I've seen that organic reach is impaired by a few algorithm changes.

I've been running a page with 200~ likes that I've got from friends but my organic reach is stupid. Like 1-10 people per post. I've tried posting loads and still the same problem.

I tried paid advertising and got some good likes and insane reach of 30k+ people.

So my question is, can I still grow a page organically?

I've seen posting to related groups is a common technique but how well does it work?

Also, inviting a bunch of people to be my friend and then pushing my page to them is another alternative. However I don't particularly like it.

Any other good ideas?

P.s. I've been living to this Jarvee guide here but I was wondering if there are even better ways to get this off the ground big time or not anymore? https://jarvee.com/complete-guide-successfully-promoting-travel-agency-via-social-media/

Thanks in advance all!

Organic reach is dead on facebook... If you want to drive quality traffic to your website focus on Reddit, Pinterest, and youtube... Or you can pay ads on facebook whenever you want

Advertising on other platforms can help you. Having organic reach on Facebook has been challenging nowadays, but not particularly dead. It's difficult to go against established pages. But ads.. advertising, if not on Facebook, in other social media marketing platforms, can offer you a hand. -Micah

Thats because suckenberg want us to pay him even to CHAT, even their messaging app has ads... WTF

ContentWriter said:

Advertising on other platforms can help you. Having organic reach on Facebook has been challenging nowadays, but not particularly dead. It's difficult to go against established pages. But ads.. advertising, if not on Facebook, in other social media marketing platforms, can offer you a hand. -Micah

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Been posting a lot and my reach is like 10 people in a week, seriously silly. I haven't been posting to groups much but will try...

Facebook's organic growth is nonexistent. There's simply no way for your post to reach new audience easily. On other social platforms you can hashtag or get on an explore feed but Facebook has none.

It's pay to grow.

Even for my page with 60k real likes the reach is really low nowadays (10k reach - 100-300 likes).
That´s for funny IMAGES.

If you post any link, say goodbye.

The question you should be asking yourself is not whether you can grow a Facebook page, but whether you should. And the answer is that it's a waste of time if you look at things long term. You could still do something with a good FB page, but not for long and Facebook will keep cutting the reach constantly. This means the value of every like you've accumulated is constantly going down. So if you can't monetize the page and the new likes immediately, investing in collecting them is a waste of your money as you will not be able to take advantage of those subscribers for long. It's virtually official Facebook policy that pages are going to be ran into the ground.

I have a page with 3.3K real fans. Half year ago I would post, then share, then tag a few people who were involved (with their permission, of course), I would get reach easily over 3K. Recently, I did the same ... twice ... both times reach was below 1K. This is ridiculous ... And yes, all posts contain link to a blog post.

As it stands, Facebook does not want people to leave the platform. And if you want to pull people from Facebook to your Moneysite or another site, then only for a fee and with Facebook advertising.

Thanks for your replies @Builder Dave @mzonas @albaniax and @marlboroXXL I appreciate the input. It's a shame that Facebook is mostly ads based. Oh well. I guess it's time to focus on other places.

Yep Reach is down.... everyone just leave facebook now.....

Bruce Silduk said:

Oh well. I guess it's time to focus on other places.

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Yep, exactly right

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Yep Reach is down.... everyone just leave facebook now.....

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Is that with ads or without? Linking out or not? Established page or newly growing one? A lot of variables... All I'm saying is that in the last 1 month I really haven't seen much improvement and been posting a lot

It is without ads, with a link! the page is about 3 months old with 17,000 likes

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It is without ads, with a link! the page is about 3 months old with 17,000 likes

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What do you know that others don't then? I would be very interested to learning what you're doing right... Are you keen on sharing?

No, not dead at all.

Things which have a permanent impact on your page:
1) Posting the same content
2) Posting too much
3) Spamming the page as a post to multiple groups (this affects your pages reach permanently even if you use a dummy account to spam your pages in groups)
4) Too low engagement
5) Too high engagement too soon
6) Too many likes too soon (although by time the reach will grow)

... And more, you get the idea. Be careful about posting your page on groups and walls as it will hit the performance of your page. The threshold is higher on old big pages and lower on new pages.

DaPromo said:

No, not dead at all.

Things which have a permanent impact on your page:
1) Posting the same content
2) Posting too much
3) Spamming the page as a post to multiple groups (this affects your pages reach permanently even if you use a dummy account to spam your pages in groups)
4) Too low engagement
5) Too high engagement too soon
6) Too many likes too soon (although by time the reach will grow)

... And more, you get the idea. Be careful about posting your page on groups and walls as it will hit the performance of your page. The threshold is higher on old big pages and lower on new pages.

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Hey, I really appreciate of you telling me what not to do when it comes to organic growth. But what should I do to make it go up... ? That's my problem.

I post a lot of interesting content related to my industry, pictures, quotes, articles from big pages like entrepreneur, foundr and similar. In the last 1 week my organic reach went from 2-3 people to 8-12 people per post. Zero likes still as I've said I haven't been adding loads of friends and inviting them to like my page as I don't like this technique, but if it will work then I'll go for it.

Alternatively, should I start posting to groups a lot or not yet? These are 2 ways I know it can work. Is there anything else I could do?

A good example is my twitter strategy. I've been posting exactly the same content, but also doing follow / unfollow (not unfollowing anyone who followed me back) retweeting 2-3 per day similar content and posting unique content 2-3 per day.

When I started, I was getting 2-10 impressions, 3 months in, my impressions are 300-800 per post, 10+ engagement...

So what strategy should I follow to recreate similar results?

I hope it makes sense... Thanks p.s. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, I am still new but I'm so impressed with bhw community!