Is Cloaking Working fine nowadays with Adwords?

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Can anyone share is the cloaking working fine nowadays?

What has been performing best for you?

Simple Php, Zero Redirect using Iframes?

I am planning to run nutra offers but not every offers supports iframing so hence simple php will be requred to use , is it getting malicious error etc or getting caught by Adwords?
 
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Many cloaker working nowadays on google adword but most of them got ban campaigns but nowadays use tricks to with out ban campaigns
1)Use old account
2)First run normal campaigns spend some $ normal website after make your actual campaign
3) Make small budget ads first
 
awesomechamp said:
Can anyone share is the cloaking working fine nowadays?

What has been performing best for you?

Simple Php, Zero Redirect using Iframes?

I am planning to run nutra offers but not every offers supports iframing so hence simple php will be requred to use , is it getting malicious error etc or getting caught by Adwords?
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Are u programmer? Send me message to talk about developing a cloak.
 
webcrawlerBR said:
Do you want to develop a cloak with me? I am python programmer...
What you think ...
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I've developed cloakers in the past. Mostly in PHP. Today I used commercial ones.

If you have questions, you can ask them here in public, that way we can help others in the process.
 
I was thinking about developing a cloak, but I have a question:

When I start a campaing on facebook ads is easy to know facebook´s ip because facebook will check the URL as soon as submit.
But after that how I´d know that a manual check came to verify my URL?
 
bartosimpsonio said:
I've developed cloakers in the past. Mostly in PHP. Today I used commercial ones.

If you have questions, you can ask them here in public, that way we can help others in the process.
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Would know any guide / tutorial that might explain the concepts behind developing a good cloaker for BH purposes. I not specifically looking for a code/library ( although it can help ), something that goes in depth into developing good cloakers. I tried searching but didn't come up with anything useful.
 
I do not know why people do not use COMMON SENSE and "sense" the trends .... Depending on the niche, there are more frequent manual reviews at random these days. AND, HERE IS THE BEST PART ... These random manual reviews are from new, new and again and again new, fresh, fresh and again and again fresh IP ranges, so no matter how great the cloaker is in updating IPs, the cloakers cannot be all that effective THESE DAYS. It is AS SIMPLE AS THAT .... Now, the REAL HUSTLERS of blackhat churn & burn, have their own ways to "get going" and no real hustler will reveal all that. AS SIMPLE AS THAT. Blackhat Adwords requires COMMON SENSE and I am so so so sorry to say this, 99% of human being on Earth, do NOT have common sense. AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
 
Raj Kesu said:
I do not know why people do not use COMMON SENSE and "sense" the trends .... Depending on the niche, there are more frequent manual reviews at random these days. AND, HERE IS THE BEST PART ... These random manual reviews are from new, new and again and again new, fresh, fresh and again and again fresh IP ranges, so no matter how great the cloaker is in updating IPs, the cloakers cannot be all that effective THESE DAYS. It is AS SIMPLE AS THAT .... Now, the REAL HUSTLERS of blackhat churn & burn, have their own ways to "get going" and no real hustler will reveal all that. AS SIMPLE AS THAT. Blackhat Adwords requires COMMON SENSE and I am so so so sorry to say this, 99% of human being on Earth, do NOT have common sense. AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
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What you said about challenges with running BH are correct.
But Adwords is not the only platform you can use cloakers on.
And not every other platform is as 'smart' as Google and FB in detecting cloakers ;)

And that's the reason the question is about the concepts behind developing cloakers.
You are right no will reveal exactly what works for them, and that was not asked.
Lot of people are happy to point others in a direction that will help them learn.
Else, this forum would be pointless if everyone successful decided not to help anyone.

Now, if you have any experience in developing cloakers and can recommend something to read, it will help those of us looking to develop our own cloakers.
 
ss18 said:
Would know any guide / tutorial that might explain the concepts behind developing a good cloaker for BH purposes. I not specifically looking for a code/library ( although it can help ), something that goes in depth into developing good cloakers. I tried searching but didn't come up with anything useful.
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Cloaking is a black art. Nobody will teach you.

You gotta start developing one, then test against various scenarios and learn what happens. You'll usually lose several accounts in the process so start with throwaway accounts and proceed onto advanced cloaking.
 
bartosimpsonio said:
Cloaking is a black art. Nobody will teach you.

You gotta start developing one, then test against various scenarios and learn what happens. You'll usually lose several accounts in the process so start with throwaway accounts and proceed onto advanced cloaking.
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Thanks for the clarification!
 
ss18 said:
What you said about challenges with running BH are correct.
But Adwords is not the only platform you can use cloakers on.
And not every other platform is as 'smart' as Google and FB in detecting cloakers ;)

And that's the reason the question is about the concepts behind developing cloakers.
You are right no will reveal exactly what works for them, and that was not asked.
Lot of people are happy to point others in a direction that will help them learn.
Else, this forum would be pointless if everyone successful decided not to help anyone.

Now, if you have any experience in developing cloakers and can recommend something to read, it will help those of us looking to develop our own cloakers.
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That's a good point! I also want to know how to get started with cloaking, not to dev my own but to cloak my sites.
 
bartosimpsonio said:
I've developed cloakers in the past. Mostly in PHP. Today I used commercial ones.

If you have questions, you can ask them here in public, that way we can help others in the process.
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Hi, could you please give some hints on how to get started with the very first step? like for newbies. Thanks in advance!
 
All types of cloaking eventually gets caught out and banned. Not worth it really. But you still call Google Ads Adwords, so I'm just going to guess that you don't actually care about long term results, and you are rather opting for a churn-and-burn approach where you sneak and cloak your way to getting the max out of your project until it gets banned and then you start from scratch again.
 
RStar66 said:
All types of cloaking eventually gets caught out and banned. Not worth it really. But you still call Google Ads Adwords, so I'm just going to guess that you don't actually care about long term results, and you are rather opting for a churn-and-burn approach where you sneak and cloak your way to getting the max out of your project until it gets banned and then you start from scratch again.
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Yes, that's the destiny. But when you see someone is doing this great (even a lot) then you would want to give it a try as well. The "long term" is really hard to measure. Just my 2 cents.
 
shirleesiniardwdy33 said:
Yes, that's the destiny. But when you see someone is doing this great (even a lot) then you would want to give it a try as well. The "long term" is really hard to measure. Just my 2 cents.
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Personally, I have found that the long term pays much better than the short term. Also, long term projects that don't include strategies that Google specifically tell you to avoid, tend to become less and less work as time goes on, while the earnings over time increase. Less work that equals more pay (passive income) over time is a much better investment of my time than the other way around. I want to retire at 55, not work for the rest of my life.
 
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