How Does Big G treat spun articles?

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I always rewrite articles copied for internet before publishing them to niche sites. I wonder is it worth it ? How Does google treat articles only some phrases are replaced.:)
 
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I never put scraped / spun content on my Blogs always unique.
I write one unique and article post it on Blog then another unique for Ezine and yet another for the article directories. I don't bother spinning it as I don't need them to rank I just use them for trashy PR0 backlinks.

Trick is to track the posted articles and make sure they get indexed.
 
Roberteb, thank you for sharing your experience.
 
It all depends how well you spin them, in my experience most spun versions are useless and won't pass a dupe check, when this happens I find it very hard to get them indexed, sometimes it won't happen. For me, unique content will always be worth it.
 
I can always get my duplicates indexed if I send them a little bit of link love. After all that's what syndication is all about. Google doesn't care that they are dupes I'll still get the link juice because they're indexed they just won't show up in SERPS which I don't care about.
 
It all depends on what you're using them for. If you're trying to rank your site, you should either spin it or write your own. I have a ton of blogs that use PLR articles, and I haven't had any problems for what I'm trying to do.
 
Basically as long as you don't have multiple pages on your site duplicating the same content among those pages, then there isn't really any kind of duplicate content penalty from the search engines.

If you're submitting articles to directories then you don't actually get penalized for duplicate content, it's just that many directories won't accept it. That's because the article directories want unique content so that they can maintain the quality of their directory.

From an SEO/SEP standpoint in some cases unique content will have better results in other cases duplicate content will have good results. If you're using duplicate content across different directories, blogs, web2.0, and other sites then different strategies regarding duplicate content will have different results for different projects.

Here's a few more bhw threads discussing the same topic.
What are the risks of 'spinning' content?
How does google determines duplicate content
Guide - Duplicate Content - Myths & Facts
SEO myths and reality
do any of you guys just not give a shit and blatanty copy content from wherever you want
Posting the same article to 1000's directories - good for backlinks or not?
No Such thing as duplicate content - Revealed
 
I used spun contents on 1 blog. Most of them outranked the original ones. Be sure your main site has lots of backlinks to help these contents.
 
4 words per sentence is what copyscape uses to determine dupe content (we believe). i usually presume that google follows a similar standard. there are guys on this forum that will give you 500 spins for 1.50 if you give them the original.

i mean if you have 1 blog i wouldnt do it, but if you have 50 spin your way to 1st page and then start the quality content. imo
 
So going on this "no duplicate content penalty" an autoblog would outrank all the original content sources if it had way more links...er uhhhmm.. more links from unique ips as the current theory goes?
 
So going on this "no duplicate content penalty" an autoblog would outrank all the original content sources if it had way more links...er uhhhmm.. more links from unique ips as the current theory goes?
 
Going on this theory an autoblog with more links than the original content sources would outrank the original content sources if it had more link? Err uhmmm more unique ip links as the current theory goes?
 
Going on this theory an autoblog with more links than the original content sources would outrank the original content sources if it had more link? Err uhmmm more unique ip links as the current theory goes?
 
Going on this theory an autoblog with more links than the original content sources would outrank the original content sources if it had more link? Err uhmmm more unique ip links as the current theory goes?
 
As long as they pass copyscape check and are readable, Big G will be fine with it :)
 
kdban said:
As long as they pass copyscape check and are readable, Big G will be fine with it :)
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If google really gave a crap about articles passing copyscape then autoblogs would have never been able to get indexed.

It's totally possible to create what google will consider a unique site, even if you use nothing but duplicate content scraped from other sources on the internet. Copyscape is something you need to be concerned about if you're creating content to submit to article directories. Google isn't concerned about duplicate content in the same way. As long as they don't receive a DMCA complaint, Google could care less if your content passes copyscape.

When people are reading and learning about the various aspects of Marketing and SEO, there's a big tendency to take advice intended for one situation and mistakingly think it applies in totally different situations. It's similar to when people first start learning about computers and get confused about the differences between Memory and Storage (RAM vs HDD) because they both use KB, MB, GB, etc.

Here's a reply I made in another current thread regarding the same topic. Maybe it can help you understand how the terms "duplicate content", "original content", and "unique content" are all used when discussing many different things. What those terms mean and how best to use the different types of content is completely different depending on the topics being discussed.
GreyWolf said:
There's a lot of misconceptions regarding a "duplicate content penalty". This is due to the fact that many discussions giving advice are regarding completely different topics that all use the same terms. Unique content and duplicate content are applied in different ways depending on the specific topic being discussed. When reading through articles and threads on the various topics, it's easy to make the mistake that they all apply universally, but that isn't the case. Whether you're better off using absolutely original content, unique content, spun content, duplicate content, or any combination of those will depend on what you're actually doing with the content.

Making sure you're articles pass copyscape is something you need to do when you're submitting articles to directories such as Associated Content, Ezinearticles, etc. Most of the better article directories won't accept duplicate content so in that situation duplicate content becomes a big issue, but that has nothing to do with Google caring about it.

Unless they receive a DMCA complaint, Google isn't really concerned about whether you're content passes copyscape or not. Even if you have 100% the same content as another site, if you do a better job promoting the site, building backlinks, etc. then it's possible for your page to move higher than the original page in the SERP.

What google wants is for the individual pages on your website to have unique content in relationship to the other pages on the same site. The purpose of that is to prevent you from making many duplicate pages changing just the name, title, description, etc. in order to target different keywords. It's kind of a similar issue as keyword stuffing and can potentially penalize your pages.
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As far as creating an engaging website that'll do well in the serps, AND entice visitors to continue returning to your site and recommending it to there friends then here's a fairly decent template for doing so. Create your main website with many pages with fairly original content, you can also have many other pages with non-original content if it adds value to the overall site. Create some quality unique articles or spun articles to submit to the top article directories with backlinks to your main site. Submit those same articles after they've been accepted to the top directories and submit them to other directory sites that aren't so concerned with duplicate content with backlinks to either your main site or to the articles you made on the top directories. Choose some of those articles from your main site and some of the better ones from the article sites and submit them to multiple blog sites with backlinks to your main site and some with backlinks to the article sites. It's actually better for many of the blog and article sites to actually be exact copies with a citation giving credit to the article on your site or the article on the other directories. If you do that then you should end up with all that content getting indexed in such a way that it all leads to your main site being the authority for that content.

You can do the same thing even if you have no original content on your site. The main difference for SEO will be the fact that for duplicate content other websites are also doing basically the same thing and so you're competing with them for the same content in the index. Even in that case you can still outrank them for the same content, it'll just take a more work.

(I didn't mention all the other SEO factors and backlink building you should also do since the topic of your thread is regarding just the content.)
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@GreyWolf - which article directories (that are worth submitting to) require unique articles?
 
ivictus said:
@GreyWolf - which article directories (that are worth submitting to) require unique articles?
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The main ones I was thinking of is associated content, ezinearticles, suite101, etc.
 
In response to the OP's original question around 'How Does google treat articles only some phrases are replaced'...

I have some experience here. I have been running an experiement in response to a plugin (wpeasycontent) which replaces block paragraphs in a duplicated piece of content.

In essence the thoery is you change the title of the article (lets say its a C&P from ezine) and add one to two paragraphs at the beginning and one to two at the end. You can either use a keyword targeted article or simply replace some of the terms with the keywords you are targeting.

Now, rather than buying yet another plugin I decided to test the theory manually. I copy and pasted 10 ezine articles and replaced the title with my keyword and added one paragraph at the start and one at the end.

Suprisingly all the articles (and I mean all) are ranking in the top 10, well above the original articles. I gave each article a reasonable sprinkle of backlinks (no more than 20-30 each) and within a few days were ranking well. 3 weeks later and they are still there.....

Its an interesting concept - I think the time it takes to whip up two paragraphs and a new title means the plugin is not really worth the outlay. However, a few simple changes made in this way clearly makes the content rank well even if it is not unique.

I have found that spun content (especially if it is badly spun) is easily detected as crap and doesnt rank anywhere whereas this method is great for visitors to your sites as the quality of content is good and sustains the reader long enough to click ads or see aff links etc and best of all it ranks.....
 
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