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SEO myths and reality

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by antx16, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. antx16

    antx16 Power Member

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    Just for info guys, this is what i done

    Bought an old used domain related closely to keywords used for 5 dollars

    Ran Scrapebox to harvest as many blogengine blogs as possible related to a certain keywords related to the travel industry

    Downloaded and installed Xgenseo trial version, good for 1 month

    setup account for new domain with xgenseo and let xgenseo search for any articles related to the travel industry, just dropped a link in the article that i decided to use, then changed the signature at the bottom and the author, did nothing else, no spinning etc, let xgenseo promote the site to everywhere, done this for about 4 different articles.

    then blasted all the blogengine blogs with scrapebox, and then pinged all the sites 10 times

    and 2 days later site is on page 1 for decent keyword
     
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  2. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    Does the domain have any PR ?
    Also , How is the competition on that keyword ?
    Is it a long tail keyword ?
    And Keep us updated on how long your site will last on 1 st position ?
    Congrats by the way :)
     
  3. J0kerz

    J0kerz Supreme Member

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    Old domain + High Quality Backlinks = Success
     
  4. antx16

    antx16 Power Member

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    Hi Guys site has PR0 and keyword competition is only 92,500 but still not a bad result will keep you posted if it yoyo's
    key word is only 3 words not to longtail
     
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    nufaman Elite Member

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    LMAO

    Any domain can be ranked with such lame competition, nothing to do with seo myths
     
  6. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    Domain age does still matter way too much. What I'm kind of curious of is how long has the site been indexed? I've heard that it's the actual registration date that matters and I've also heard it's the date it was first indexed.
     
  7. JesusBack

    JesusBack Executive VIP Premium Member

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    bum bum bum... trustrank - not a SEO myth. thanks for the tip though.
     
  8. DavidM19

    DavidM19 Junior Member

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    So wait, did you use sb to blast the web2.0 properties made by xgen? Or your main site?
     
  9. bustysexylacey

    bustysexylacey Newbie

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    From what I've read about google there is a honeymoon period for domains. A new domain will rank high on a temporary basis before it drops. Thats why all these tutorials people sell claiming they ranked in google at #1 is so many days is a load of crap. I don't think I've ever seen one of these tutorials mention this very important piece of info. They are selling snake oil.
     
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    Nothing new or special here.

    Compete for a high competition keyword, then maybe this would be a useful thread.
     
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  11. antx16

    antx16 Power Member

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    Well actually site was not even indexed but after running Xgenseo it was indexed about 45 minutes later, i know Google dances sites all the time and i know about the honeymoon periods, what i am trying to get to is all the rubbish about unique articles is utter rubbish.
     
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  12. rever20

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    Well, thats the power of the old domains =]
     
  13. HardAssets

    HardAssets Newbie

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    I've been working for months on one of my main sites and have managed to get to 16th on google out of over 9 million search results. I just can't believe that any one product or tactic can move a site with a lot of competition up to first place that quick.

    I'll definitely check check out the product though!

    Thanks!
     
  14. dannyhw

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    So that actually answers a pretty important question. It's the actual age not the length of being indexed. At least I don't think there's a problem with that assumption.

    Yeah unique articles will be better, but you can still rank if your other factors kick enough ass. How old is this domain? When you get back a few years the boost it gives you is absolutely ridiculous at least in every case I've seen.
     
  15. antx16

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    site was 10 years old and as i said did not do much more than i said, will report back if it changes
     
  16. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    I agree with you antx. "...all the rubbish about unique articles is utter rubbish."

    The idea of a duplicate content penalty goes back to the days before google when webmasters would create multiple identical landing pages on a site with different filenames and titles targeting different keywords. At the time it was a good SEO tactic, but it quickly became abused and the SEs began treating it similar to keyword stuffing. People with SEO websites, SEO blogs, Guru ebooks, and other instruction sites started telling people that multiple pages on your website must have unique content.

    Then article directories started becoming popular, webmasters started submitting articles for backlinks. It was common to submit the same article to multiple sites, and even just take an existing article change the backlinks and submit it again. In order to maintain a higher quality level many directory sites would reject articles that aren't unique. The article directory FAQs, writing blogs, making money ebooks and instruction websites targeting article writing started telling people the need to have unique content.

    Somehow these separate issues became combined in peoples minds. People posting on forums, writing blogs, making 'get rich quick' ebooks, etc started combining those to different situations into a single idea that 'you have to have unique content for everything'. You really only absolutely need unique content if your submitting to article directory sites that demand it.

    There's many legitimate reasons for duplicate content to exist and even be necessary. So, search engines don't really care about duplicate content on unrelated websites. The duplicate content penalty everyone worries about only applies to duplicate content on the same website. Whether you need to use unique content or duplicate content depends on what you want to do with your website and what visitors your targeting.

    Unique content is still a good idea, but not when it reaches the point of becoming unreadable garbage. If you want to have a popular site that people have a reason for returning to then it's a good idea to include a lot of unique content. But many sites composed almost entirely of duplicate content also do very well. Autoblogs are a perfect example that duplicate content isn't a SEO killer for a website. Press releases are a great example that duplicate content isn't a SEO killer for articles.
     
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  17. antx16

    antx16 Power Member

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    Greywolf has just summed up exactly the point i have been making, so if you want to make a couple of quick bucks , i think my method is quite simple to follow.
     
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  18. umpaplumpa

    umpaplumpa Newbie

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    How do you ping your sites? DO you use any sweet software or manually?
     
  19. dannyhw

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    I recently saw an old autoblog that was ranking for great keywords. I don't even think it was wordpress and there was no fancy template. Just republishing every post from a list of related blogs. I don't remember checking out the link profile, but they were effortlessly beating the sites they scraped in the serps. Really good stuff.
     
  20. biteablegravy

    biteablegravy Registered Member

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    On autoblogs (and maybe touching on GreyWolf's point as well)-
    Let's say you scrape a post and Big G finds the original author after following your OBL, can it really penalize the original author for duplicate content (since it was found on your page first)?

    The answer is, probably not. It would be highly exploitable with the right coding, and I'm surprised more people haven't publicized a way to do it so they can capitalize on the fear.