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  1. macdonjo3

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    I hate this section and hate getting involved in this stuff but I figured I need to get some opinions from mods on how to properly deal with these types of people in the future. It seems childish to have result to this, but I think it has to be done. Here we go...

    As an extension of this thread. In reply to this post.
    User: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/721009-hoodbot.html

    Normally, I refund people like this, but I'm kind of getting sick of them. Just couple weeks back I refunded a $750 order, but I'm getting sick of this. It's not a free trial and I don't work for free. I stand behind what I offer.

    Please note: In the past, you can see in my reviews, if a customer has an issue with domains, I replace them. Say they had a chinese link or Viagara anchor text, no problem, consider it replaced. I work with you to make sure what I promised is there.

    This customer made a minimum order, 2 domains and requested a specific niche. As the process goes I give you the best available inside your preferences. If there's no niche provided, then you can get the best I have but obviously niches narrow down the selection available. However, that's no problem and I can still deliver as promised. I promise an expired domain with a minimum of 1 do-follow news feature from something like Huffington Post, etc. Sometimes they have 2 or 3 or 4. All I confirm is 1.

    His problem and opinion is he thinks the domain profile is, I quote, "crap." Of course this purely an opinion and everyone's judgement will be different. I have had some pretty happy customers in the past as you can read in the thread. He goes on to talk about metrics, which are not covered in my sales thread. He also says the domain is not indexed, and that's because the domains are expired domains. After a few months, any expired domain will lose it's index. Domain indexing is also nothing mentioned, promised or guaranteed in any shape or form in my thread.

    It's a $50 domain here, and he's expecting things I did not claim. If you want a domain with fantastic profiles and multiple links guaranteed, SkyRocketSEO has some fantastic domains for about $1900. It's entirely a you get what you pay for situation, but either way. What I promise is there and if anything wasn't I told him I'd replace the domains to something that is. However, all of his claims are things not mentioned in my sales thread, so that's hard to work with. :/

    Now he is blackmailing me saying he is opening a dispute in PayPal if I don't refund. As far as I'm considered, anyone that opens a dispute in PayPal, for any transaction taken place on BHW should be punished. These serial refunders know that PayPal does not protect buyers on virtual items usually, so they go to PayPal, over BHW, as BHW will support the seller on virtual items.

    As for the Skype log and deliverables, please PM me mod and I can send it over.

    It's not about the money but the thought. I can refund it, but he's already taken his thoughts to my sales thread, so going to hang on to the money for now until OS or the mod looks at this. Hopefully I and other sellers can figure out how to avoid buyers like these.
     
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    Hoodbot has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    In addition, I have provided him the skype log that I have received so he can verify that it is accurate.

    OS
    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    Reminder to everyone else:
    Shit list rule #4:
    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
     
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  3. macdonjo3

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    I want to add: He did open a dispute in PayPal. It's no longer just a threat.
     
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    Ok lets do this domains he tried to give me *removed* and the back link profile is really scummy
    it has prlistplus.com a known pbn network that google cracked down on he also stated i could use this websites for my own pbn how since there already have bad history? Anotehr factor was it took him longer then 7 days to get these two domains I had not been contacted via email or anything I had to ask him about my domains he gave me these two. I am a constant buyer of bhw services non stop I have never had any problems or difficulty what he promised me was a good website with good links that I could rebuild and use the site as my own pbn. what I got was two websites that had bad backlinks and terrible history.

    Let is be known I did not buy these domains for the 1 links I was buying it for the link hostory and the claim I can Use this for my own pbn
     
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  5. macdonjo3

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    You never mentioned turn around time as an issue before this. I would have worked with you if you even mentioned TAT as something important to you. So don't even try to bring that in.

    I offered to replace the domain, but you were persistent to give a refund, but that is not the process.

    You didn't really acknowledge my offer to replace but went on to say: "theres a big issue with the f*cking back link profile i don't give a f*ck uy don't work for free and i don't get f*ckin conned back link profile is crap." Really ignoring my proposed resolution. Then went on to open a PayPal dispute.

    Additionally, although I do normally support the rest of the backlink profile, and I offered to do so, it's not something guaranteed in my thread.
     
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    I just took a look on the sales page and the seller is selling domains with 1 link from a set of sites. Doesn't say anything about "selling clean expired domains", or am I missing something?
     
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    Correct, I don't talk about that in the sales thread. So I wasn't even required to offer replacements. I did offer to replace it though, just because I strive to keep most customers happy.
     
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    OS already posted it, reposting but next offense is infraction.

     
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    What should be done about this dispute that is live on PayPal?
     
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    What I basically said was, in his first post he says -

    Domain indexing is also nothing mentioned, promised or guaranteed in any shape or form in my thread.

    Yet, on his sales thread on page 3, post number 116, he replies to someones question -

    *Quote Originally Posted by lover View Post
    Are these indexed domains? Send me some samples.

    They have links from big news site.... yes they're indexed.*

    what about this claim?

    I brought it also think the domain was indexed look at my original post

    I'm not going to blow up his service beacuse it might work for others but with me he tried to give me 2 domains that where not even indexed in backlink profile was a little shady but it did have that 1 link he talks about getting. i would not want the websites he tried to give me pointed at my money site and I would not want to 301 it either. Also why are the websites not indexed that you are giving me? I would like my money back Thank You bot da is 15 one does not even exist. When I asked him why he said da and pa dont matter when i looked at majestic stats did not even come up also most links on there come from prlistplus.com
     
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    You never mentioned this post of mine until the now-removed post jumped in and said there was a post that says that. So it's more than clear you didn't even know I mentioned anything about indexing until he jumped in.

    You never actually said "you told me they were" or "your sales copy says so." You just thought they might be.

    Sure, you thought they'd be indexed all along, that's just because of your lack of knowledge in SEO, not because of something you've read.

    You also never mentioned this special request as per your Skype message to me, "yea it can be any site as long as the nitch is law."
     
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    its on your sales thread the first issue i had was the fact they where not indexed sounds like to me you just a man that wont stand behind his product

    so what you posted on your own sales thread when asked this question was yes its indexed?
    now you are telling me i dont know seo maybe you should learn to read whats on your own post


    my orginal post on your thread talks about why is my website no indexed

    I'm not going to blow up his service beacuse it might work for others but with me he tried to give me 2 domains that where not even indexed in backlink profile was a little shady but it did have that 1 link he talks about getting. i would not want the websites he tried to give me pointed at my money site and I would not want to 301 it either. Also why are the websites not indexed that you are giving me? I would like my money back Thank You bot da is 15 one does not even exist. When I asked him why he said da and pa dont matter when i looked at majestic stats did not even come up also most links on there come from prlistplus.com
     
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    I don't think you are understanding. You never mentioned me claiming that I said they were indexed.

    Don't worry, these domains are indexed as soon as you register them anyway.

     
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    please explain this
    on your own sales thread on page 3, post number 116, when someone asked this question - I am only left to be alive that the information provided to me by you is accurate and true or why would you be making false claims?

    page 3, post number 116,
    *Quote Originally Posted by lover View Post
    Are these indexed domains? Send me some samples.

    They have links from big news site.... yes they're indexed.*

    question is indexed domain not indexed back link so dont try to play the why did you not complain about index problem on this thread my problem was stated on your own before this and also on our skype conversation
     
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    Yes, domains are indexed once you register them.
     
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    the answer that is given is not when you register them you clearly state they are currently indexed already. Thats the answer u gave.
     
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    They are indexed already, but the service isn't complete until you register them.

    So you are telling me you bought domains with no intention of registering them?
     
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    wait a minuet your telling me all the expired domains i keep buy with pages allready indexed is a myth and its been all me this time just regestering the domain. I was allways told to look at pages already indexed on google as as a factor when buying and building your own pbn. please explain further how this thinking is wrong?

    just picked this domain up a month ago http://liemlaw.com still have pages indexed on google before i regestered the domain

    google results

    A WordPress Site | Just another WordPress site
    liemlaw.com/
    Oct 17, 2014 - Welcome to WordPress. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, then start blogging! Just another WordPress site. Search for: Recent Posts.
    Liemlaw.com | Law and Mediation Office of Veronique Liem
    liemlaw.com/?loc=res
    http://www.liemlaw.com ... http://www.liemlaw.com. © Copyright 2004-2011 Véronique Liem. All rights reserved. SMITH HAUGHEY RICE & ROEGGE 213 S. Ashley, Suite ...
    Collaborative Divorce - Liemlaw.com | Law and Mediation ...
    http://www.liemlaw.com/?loc=famlaw&sub=colldiv
    Collaborative Divorce. Parties who seek collaborative divorces choose to resolve divorce issues amicably through settlement, avoiding litigation and unduly ...
    Websites - Liemlaw.com | Law and Mediation Office of ...
    http://www.liemlaw.com/?loc=res&sub=websites
    http://www.liemlaw.com ... Information on Washtenaw County Trial Court, Family Division, Friend of the Court, Family Benchbook, etc. http://washtenawtrialcourt. org
    Books - Liemlaw.com | Law and Mediation Office of ...
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    Growing Up Divorced, by Linda Bird Franke; Publisher: New York: Simon & Schuster; 1983; all ages: Describes the various stages children and teens go through ...

    now lets google your website u gave me http://acslawnebraska.org

    0 results


    Ontop of that Nov 23, 2014 Enterprises 59F37566U45548522 I just got these 2 domains yesterday banner said 7 days not 2 week turn around time
     
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    Can't really understand your sentences.

    Let me know when you have the domains registered.
     
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    I refuse to pay more money for what you peddal as a pbn website like I said I will let paypal figure it out these are the reason i wanted my money if mods want to ban me go for it don't care

    1) Turn Around Time - 13 Days ] Will give refund back if its after 7 days
    2) Told Domains where Safe to be used to power my pbn but with a known banned pbn links all over these domains I will not put my money site at risk.
    3) You said these domains where allready indexed on google. They are not not indexed at all
     
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