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Here's my content creation tech stack & process for cranking out high-quality content quickly - What are your favorite tools and processes?
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ritafairclough
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So, I have read the thread and found it really interesting...but a bit mind-boggling...so here is my question.
I'm looking for a system that can help with writing info/question-based articles....in particular:
I plugin my main keyword phrase and I'd like help with:
1. Blog headline title
2. intro paragraph
3. help me research and write 4-5 further subheadings
4. conclusion paragraph
Any help is much appreciated! - Thanks!
I'm looking for a system that can help with writing info/question-based articles....in particular:
I plugin my main keyword phrase and I'd like help with:
1. Blog headline title
2. intro paragraph
3. help me research and write 4-5 further subheadings
4. conclusion paragraph
Any help is much appreciated! - Thanks!
kaudo
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- Jan 9, 2015
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Gocopy is great for the "structured" writers. Their interface is very clean, tidy and logical. The tool is a bit slower than nichess, but that is not the issue.
Their workflow is a bit different. It will suit your needs if you know what you are going to write about from the start. It is good when you are building the content paragraph by paragraph, then it´s the best tool for you.
I am not a "structured" person. My content creation process is a sheer mess. I know my topic but I have no idea about the structure of the article upfront. That´s why nechess suit me better. I insert keywords or a question from frase and create a piece, then immediately I insert another keyword and create another piece and again and again. In 5 minutes I have 3000 word skeleton. I read it then, reorder, delete 50%, rewrite. In the process I get a million new ideas which I again run through the nichess and do the same as above. This is how my head works and therefor nichess suits me more. It is mess but fun.
But maybe you are different and gocopy is better for you.
There are few modules that are pretty useless - blog idea generator to name one - it scrapes web for 3 blog titles, that´s all - you get more ideas just looking at the google SERP.
On the other hand they have a rewriter module, the problem is 400 word limit.
And none of them replaces frase.
Flipporama
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- Oct 29, 2017
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Unfortunately, Frase disabled the activation of unredeemed codes on March 1st, I don't recommend anyone buying unredeemed codes anymore. But you can find plenty of people selling Frase in the following group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/missltd
Just do your due diligence guys before paying.
I also like Nichesss, it's a great product, I could create 80% of a 5000 words article using only the blog intro feature alone. My workflow currently is as follow: Nichess ==> Grammarly + WordTune (If necessary) ==> Plagiarismdetector.net ==> GPT2 Detector ==> My head (Editing, proofreading, etc..) ==> Formatting and publishing. I am a bit of a perfectionist, the 5000 w article took a couple of days including on-page SEO, images, videos, etc...
I had to refund Writesonic due to the limitation, and they did not renew my credit in 36 days, also the content it produces was crap.
I sign up for their free trial and wrote 1k words article using their A.I..
Quetext found this..
For the time being, I'll stick with manual research + Nichesss..
But I really hope GoCopy improve their A.I, It's just so easy to use..
Thanks,
I found the seller, his post was by far has the most commented
He's now selling accounts with codes already applied..
I've already contacted him, let's hope he still has some in stock..
kaudo
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For the time being, I'll stick with manual research + Nichesss..
But I really hope GoCopy improve their A.I, It's just so easy to use..
Me too. I bought it for 59 or 69 bucks a few days ago and still have the chance to refund within 60 days from the purchase, it there are no improvements.
renegade47
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- Jan 18, 2018
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So what's the consensus on Writesonic? I purchased 3 codes after the initial discussion of it in this thread but haven't activated them yet. Now it seems like Writesonic isn't worth it for this process? I already had Nichesss, MarketMuse, and PostPace prior to seeing this thread. Should I refund my Writesonic codes?
Sweetrevenge
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- Jan 7, 2017
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Wow, I've just went through all those 7 pages and you gyus introduced me into a real new world.
My question is @X : what main tools would you recommend me with a total budget of 350 dollars to generate around 100 000 words worth of content each month? Thanks in advance
My question is @X : what main tools would you recommend me with a total budget of 350 dollars to generate around 100 000 words worth of content each month? Thanks in advance
Jihalab
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- Apr 1, 2020
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Ha! Looks like I did the right choice by adding Postpace to the mix.
My process is extremely similar to yours, just with a few different tools and tweaks.
1. Article Template (Repeatable blueprint I made for myself): RoamResearch
2. Keyword Research: KWFinder
3. Post Outlines: Thurrr + Postpace
4. SERP Analyser (Finding word count, h2's - h6's): SurferSEO
5. Content Editor: SurferSEO
6. Post-Production: Conversion.ai (like you said recently acquired Headline).
My process is extremely similar to yours, just with a few different tools and tweaks.
1. Article Template (Repeatable blueprint I made for myself): RoamResearch
2. Keyword Research: KWFinder
3. Post Outlines: Thurrr + Postpace
4. SERP Analyser (Finding word count, h2's - h6's): SurferSEO
5. Content Editor: SurferSEO
6. Post-Production: Conversion.ai (like you said recently acquired Headline).
kaudo
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No matter what the tool is, GPT-3 has its limits too.
If you need something in the field where it was not trained enough you will end up with something like this:
"These edible ink cartridges can be used on many Canon printers, such as the edible inkjet printer, edible ink printer, edible printer, edible ink printer, edible inkjet printer edible ink printer, edible ink printer edible inkjet printer, edible ink printer edible inkjet printer, etc.".
This is from nichesss, gocopy´s output was too pathetic to post.
If you need something in the field where it was not trained enough you will end up with something like this:
"These edible ink cartridges can be used on many Canon printers, such as the edible inkjet printer, edible ink printer, edible printer, edible ink printer, edible inkjet printer edible ink printer, edible ink printer edible inkjet printer, edible ink printer edible inkjet printer, etc.".
This is from nichesss, gocopy´s output was too pathetic to post.
vin42
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- May 24, 2016
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That's the problem with GPT3....we will need to fact check and verify the information for every piece of content.....it may work for niches such as philosophy, self help where it gives amazing content....but may give out illogical content for others. Some enthusiasts here are planning or implementing getting content and posting hundreds of articles per day without human proofing.....its a bad idea...these generators work good for short form of content but they lose touch or deviate away from the flow when outputting long form of content. Getting accurate content is still a few versions ahead.
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For headline title ideas you can use Nichesss and reroll as many times as you like to get some inspiration for a solid headline - it can pump out some gold (and some useless ones, just gotta dig through a bit)
Intro paragraph - nichesss again
Researching bullet points - postpace, MarketMuse, and/or Frase
Conclusion - nichesss (intro paragraph creator can work well, just edit the output a bit to sound more like a conclusion), though I'm liking Writesonics Summary module which can do a decent job summarizing all the text you paste into it.
I personally like Writesonic - it needs to grow more but I'm keeping in my stack as it does generate some useful content for several of the niches I'm in.
For that kind of bulk handsfree content there's no one solution that I can think of, if you care about the accuracy or quality of output you'll need to manually work the results generated. But for that kind of volume nichesss is the most generous as far as unlimited queries.
Looks like a great stack and process! I haven't heard of Thurrr though
Agreed, a lot of gpt-3 output is better for general information, and needs to be tweaked for more specific topics.
Agreed, AI is good for supplementing writing, not for auto-generating bulk amounts of content with no intervention. It definitely needs human intervention and tweaking when publishing content on money sites.
Update on my stack:
I used Squirrly years ago for onsite SEO, and they just dropped a fairly solid LTD on AppSumo with generous limits - I triple stacked and installed in on a money site to dig in to see how it's evolved over the years. So far I'm liking it as a supplement to the rest of my process after going through all the steps outlined in my first post - it gives fairly simple recommendations but makes it easy to see fairly obvious things I've missed on my posts.
Shipwrite
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- Apr 6, 2021
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Thanks, X for bringing this thread to life. I feel like I'm witnessing the foundation of a whole new playing field in the world of content creation.
Was able to get MarketMuse, Nichesss, and Postpace as my starting stack after a few days of doing research once I finished going through this thread.
Still on the fence on whether I need to get WriteSonic as well to help with the content creation.
Skipped out on the research tools as I have access to Ahrefs and unfortunately I couldn't find any alternatives that have any LTDs at the moment to have as a backup if I ever do lose access to Ahrefs.
Looking forward to adding my thoughts on my current stack and reading up on everyone's experience on it as well!
Was able to get MarketMuse, Nichesss, and Postpace as my starting stack after a few days of doing research once I finished going through this thread.
Still on the fence on whether I need to get WriteSonic as well to help with the content creation.
Skipped out on the research tools as I have access to Ahrefs and unfortunately I couldn't find any alternatives that have any LTDs at the moment to have as a backup if I ever do lose access to Ahrefs.
Looking forward to adding my thoughts on my current stack and reading up on everyone's experience on it as well!
paraztos
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Ever since I missed frase and find marketmuse too expensive I've been looking for 'content grader' tool. I'm currently having fun with 'neuraltext' (they have appsumo ltd 59.9). If you want to try they have a free option with 5 briefs/month. Their ltd offers 60 briefs/month. So far I'm liking it, although I can see improvement opportunitites.
Apart from content analyzier, there is KW research and AI writing tool included. Although I mainly bought for the content analyzier, you can quickly generate sentences by pressing ctrl+enter anytime you are using the in-house writer.
Apart from content analyzier, there is KW research and AI writing tool included. Although I mainly bought for the content analyzier, you can quickly generate sentences by pressing ctrl+enter anytime you are using the in-house writer.
danushkamadu
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- Nov 28, 2020
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nice shareI'm always looking for new tools to improve my content marketing - I'm not a huge fan of staring at a blank page and trying to come up with full 500-2000+ word articles for my sites from scratch.
I used to just go to Google and look at top competitors by typing "[niche] blog" and looking at articles they published for inspiration, doing a bit of keyword research, and then trying to slap together decent content to publish.
Over time I've evolved my writing to utilize a handful of tools that makes it much easier to write more engaging and comprehensive content, much more quickly.
Now my tools/process goes something like this:
1) Keyword Research - Ubersuggest & Keysearch
I look for keyword and topic ideas by running a few seed keywords through Ubersuggest & Keysearch. I generally try to target low-mid competition keywords with 500+ searches/mo, but am happy to try and piece together a few lower-volume longtail keywords that combine to add up to decent monthly searches. I take all these search volumes with a grain of salt anyways, but they're a decent indicator of potential performance. I know Ahrefs is the king, but I don't really care about exact metrics anyways, and I use MorningScore for backlink analysis - they're amazing. So I don't really feel the need to justify Ahrefs pricing on top of my other subscriptions.
If I can't think of any good topics I'll go to Google, search for competitor blogs to get ideas for content, grab some seed keywords from there and start digging.
2) Content Brief / Outline - Postpace & MarketMuse
I just started using Postpace & MarketMuse and have fallen in love with both. They work well together when utilized in a particular way:
Postpace
After I know what primary keywords I'm going to target (from Step 1), I fire up Postpace first and plug in my primary keyword.
It goes out and grabs the top 15 competitors for the keyword, and tells some important metrics such as average word count, keyword frequency, etc. It also creates outlines of each of the top-ranking articles to show you what topics are covered in the best-performing pieces.
The best part is its content brief editor. You can simply click each topic and it will add the content to a content brief/outline so you can figure out your topics and subtopics in the article.
MarketMuse
After I have my first round of content research and outlining done, I jump to MarketMuse and use the Research module to get more keyword ideas and variants. I plug in my primary keyword and it analyzes the top competitors to tell you what related keywords they're using, and variants of those keywords, along with frequencies.
I make note of the most relevant/useful related topics and variants and add them to the content brief to ensure I utilize these keywords/topics in the final result.
I then use the Compete module to get a bird's eye view of the top 20 competitors and a topical heatmap, which lets me get an idea of gaps in topical coverage. The more gaps I can fill, the more keywords I can rank for and the more authoritative and useful the article becomes.
I update the content brief in Postpace once again, rearrange everything, and finalize my outline for the article.
3) Content Writing - Headlime (with some assistance from Nichesss)
I bought Headlime a while back when it first launched for a one-off price. It was originally just a nifty little headline creation tool where you could plug in your product, the pains it solves and its benefits, your target audience, etc. and it would create headline ideas based on their templates.
Over the past several months the developer has massively expanded the functionality and incorporated GPT-3, allowing Headlime to write unique headlines with AI. However, they've also added all kinds of features like AI-assisted blog posts, emails, facebook ads, landing pages, product descriptions, etc.
The module important during this phase of my process is the Blog module in Headlime which uses AI to write content**.
You simply tell it what you want your blog to be about (feed it a general blog headline that incorporates your keyword) and give it a sentence or two, and it will start cranking out some extremely well-written content. After it writes a paragraph or two it stops. You can then edit the content, delete things you don't want, add content in, and set up the next sentence or two with where you want the AI to go, then click generate again. It will build on the article a bit more using the content you've added. Then just rinse and repeat.
If I can't think of a good few sentences to write, I'll feed the content into a nifty tool called Nichesss (not a typo), which also uses GPT-3 to write some content. It has a "Blog Post Intro" module that spits out some helpful intro sentences for a topic, which I can then add to the content in Headlime to keep things moving along with minimal brainpower.
I reference the content outline from Postpace and add in phrases and sentences after each generation to have the AI write a paragraph or two based on that.
After all is said and done, I quickly polish the article, rearrange things a bit as needed, and consult the Postpace brief and MarketMuse to sprinkle in some keywords that the AI didn't use and manually write a bit more to help the flow and cover any topics the AI didn't quite nail. Once I'm happy, I'm ready to check the optimization.
**Unfortunately the AI content isn't included in my lifetime plan for Headlime, but I can buy one-off credits that don't expire to use as needed, and they're very reasonably priced (it usually only takes about $1 worth of credits to crank out a long, well-written article with minimal effort). For their monthly plans, they include a generous amount of recurring credits as well.
4) Content Optimization - MarketMuse
Next I publish the article to my blog, as I need a URL to feed to MarketMuse's Optimize module. Once published I paste the primary keyword and the article URL into compete and let it run its analysis. It will return results showing me what topics the top competitors cover and how frequently these topics are mentioned, and how frequently my content mentions these same topics. It will make helpful suggestions such as "use this topic less," "you've covered/mentioned this topic the right amount of times," or "add this topic a few more times."
So I follow their guidelines to boost the overall content. The Optimize module has a few other nifty features, but that's the majority of how I use it.
5) Finalize the Published Article & Repeat
Once the content has been checked and tweaked I save the updated content, add a few images from DepositPhotos, and finalize it so I can move on to the next.
I use the Pomodoro method to help me focus, and use brain.fm for background noise to help me focus.
NOTE: I am not affiliated with any of the above tools in any way, I just have quickly grown to love them. Also, at the time of writing this, I believe all the tools outlined above have lifetime deals (aside from Headlime), mostly on AppSumo. If you wind up purchasing MarketMuse, I highly suggest at least stacking 3 codes to unlock everything and have decent monthly limits. I also use a few of my own tools, but they aren't necessary to the core of my process - and I don't want to mention them as the purpose of this post is not to promote myself (please don't PM me asking about any as I won't respond - I apologize), but I want to find out:
What tools do you use? What process do you use to pump out as many high-quality articles as quickly as possible? I'm fairly happy with my tech stack, but I would love to find out about some other tools that I haven't seen or tried.
Flipporama
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Here comes another tool on Appsumo called contentbot ai
I've seen people talking about it on FB groups, so I've gone ahead, started a trial to see how it works compared to Nichesss. So far looks good, but the thing I hate the most especially in GPT-3 apps is the credits system. However, by stacking 3 codes you get unlimited runs for all tools except the long form article (25 runs/month), and it took TWO long form credits for one article of 3 sections which is disappointing. The output seems good, but the limitation is ridiculous IMO. Still evaluating it to see if it can be a proper plan B for Nichesss.
Content Villain seems also an option without limitations and more options, however, I did not try it.
Take a look also at NeuralText which can be a decent alternative to Frase, also currently on Appsumo.
NB. Nichesss developer confirmed the long form article generator to be live in two weeks, however, he did not say anything about limitations or credits, hopefully it will be something fair for everyone.
NB2. Don't miss the DepositPhotos LTD
I've seen people talking about it on FB groups, so I've gone ahead, started a trial to see how it works compared to Nichesss. So far looks good, but the thing I hate the most especially in GPT-3 apps is the credits system. However, by stacking 3 codes you get unlimited runs for all tools except the long form article (25 runs/month), and it took TWO long form credits for one article of 3 sections which is disappointing. The output seems good, but the limitation is ridiculous IMO. Still evaluating it to see if it can be a proper plan B for Nichesss.
Content Villain seems also an option without limitations and more options, however, I did not try it.
Take a look also at NeuralText which can be a decent alternative to Frase, also currently on Appsumo.
NB. Nichesss developer confirmed the long form article generator to be live in two weeks, however, he did not say anything about limitations or credits, hopefully it will be something fair for everyone.
NB2. Don't miss the DepositPhotos LTD
akunbajak
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- Apr 25, 2021
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Is the fb seller still selling frase?
Flipporama
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- Oct 29, 2017
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Unfortunately, Frase disabled the activation of unredeemed codes on March 1st, I don't recommend anyone buying unredeemed codes anymore. But you can find plenty of people selling Frase in the following group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/missltd
Just do your due diligence guys before paying.