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GSA start up costs estimate - Is this an overkill?

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  1. Swave

    Swave Newbie

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    Hello BH's -

    I currently have ScrapeBox, and although it serves many purposes, building lots of diversified links is not it's strong suit. So the plan is to use it to create lists and feed them into GSA for posting.

    My question is do any of you current GSA users think the budgetary estimates and set-up I'm considering (jpg below) is an overkill, good enough for a "beginner" or not enough?

    Thanks!

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  2. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It's about right for a decent setup - you could run 10-20 campaigns in that.
    but you could start much cheaper IF you were on a budget.
     
  3. oscilay

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    I think soyoustart have a set up fee too.
     
  4. Swave

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    Actually 5 campaigns would probably suffice for my needs at this point in the game. Personally, I would rather spend a little money on a quality, verified list than to spend time scraping. I mainly use Videos, so all I'm really concerned about is high quantities of live links - not so much concerned with quality.

    So if I could get away with a less expensive set-up, I would. Any suggestions?
     
  5. Swave

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    Yeah, it's $69.00 or $14/month for 6 months.
     
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    You got a good set up, with 80 proxies and decent server, you will able to run 800-1000 threads as well.

    Can you post direct link to your VPS deal.
     
  7. Swave

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    Actually, it looks like that deal is gone! lol. But I believe SoYouStart is part of OVH. I specifically wanted to go with them because they have U.S. datacenters.
     
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    You need a good plan to make money if you invest that money.
    For me, it was totally the right decision to buy it. Actually, I don't have any monthly costs. Sometimes I buy 10 proxies for $15 but that was it.
     
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    check out bk071's VPS service - he uses OVH (I think) and is cheaper than your price. I'm running GSA and Senuke 24/7 on it fine.
     
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    10-20 campaigns? LOL. I'm using the same exact server he plans on buying and right now I have more than 80 campaigns set up.
    And I'm churning out over a million links / day.

    To the OP -

    Let me tell you what I don't like about your plan.

    Instantlinkindexer is expensive as hell. I haven't personally compared them to indexification but indexification is only $17 / month.
    And it gets about 60-70% of my links indexed in a week. I would maybe do instantlinkindexer for a month, then switch to indexification
    and see if you notice a difference. If not, go with indexification.

    Second, people will hate me for saying this, because it goes against the grain and is highly controversial.

    But I tried 3 different proxy suppliers and every single one DROPPED my LPM in GSA. And I've had about 14 months to play with settings
    and continually go back and tweak things. I don't know why, but till this day I get a much higher LPM with public proxies.

    Another thing I despise about private / semi-private proxies is they were getting banned about 15-30 minutes after I would plug them in.
    Then I had to go back to the supplier, request new ones, and I'd have to wait 3-24 hours just to get them replaced. During this time, I
    was FORCED to use public proxies, which is when I noticed my LPM would shoot through the roof.

    Till this day I'm very suspect about whether its better to have just a few private proxies, or a shitload of public proxies. My own testing has
    proved to me that public are always better. But like 90% of people on this forum say to use private / semi-private.

    My situation could be extremely rare, idk. But with this said, I HIGHLY recommend you switch back and forth between private and public.
    Don't just assume you'll get better results with paid proxies, actually test for yourself. Another benefit I get with public proxies (aside from
    a significantly higher LPM) is I can live GSA running for days, sometimes even weeks without ever monitoring my campaigns. With private
    or semi-private, I was logging in every 2-3 hours just to see if it was time to replace all my paid proxies.

    And I still don't understand how marketers deal with this. Every time I've ever bought paid proxies, no matter what my settings are, they
    ALWAYS got banned in less than an hour. So even when I was using paid proxies, the high majority of the time I still had to use public.

    And it boggles my mind why nobody else every talks about this or brings this up. All I ever hear is "paid proxies are faster, you get higher
    stick rates, higher LPM, etc etc". That was never the case with me, I just plug them in, see my LPM drop to 20-30% what it normally was,
    then BAM all the proxies were banned just like that. It happened every single time I ever bought proxies.

    When you tag on the cost of proxies, and all the problems I was experiencing used them, it made absolutely no sense in the world why
    I should use them.

    That's just me though. Test for yourself and maybe you'll have a better experience.

    Good luck.
     
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    @BreaknBrix, you were using semi-dedicated proxies or fully private ones?
     
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    /\ They were all semi-dedicated. You think that might be why?
     
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    May be but i am not 100% sure. Semi-dedicated proxies are also shared with other users and you do not have full control over it.
     
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    Mixture of dedi/semi and public works good for me in gsa.
     
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    As long as you're using 100% of it you're not overkilling anything, if all of this is for 1 microniche then yes it is overkill.
     
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  16. Swave

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    I'm no expert, but in my experience of using ScrapeBox in the past, this is what I experienced, proxies getting banned quickly. So I switched to semi-dedicated for scraping and fully-dedicated for posting...and it solved a lot of problems.
     
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    last time i heard, you should not use indexer rather let the google index the website organically? correct me if i m wrong.
     
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    Yes, it is an overkill in some services you will buy. You could save a lot.
    First of all, you can get CB for $110. Second of all, the indexing service you will buy is too expensive, go with indexification and also buy GSA Indexer ($20 one-time fee). What I like to do is pass all my links in GSA Indexer (first pass), then in my own private "indexer links" (second pass) and finally what is left in indexification and you will notice that you will save 50% every month more or less if you go this route.

    Third of all, use public proxies for scraping and semi-dedicated for posting, which again cuts in half most of your costs for proxies. And finally, I don't know how many campaigns you will be running and how many threads you need, but if you are just starting out with 1-2 projects, that means not much. Plus by going to that website you will buy the server from, I saw that they have them overpriced IMO. You can buy a 2-3 core processor VPS with 4GB of RAM in the $30-40/month range. And be advised that GSA is a 32-bit application so it cannot spend more than 4GB RAM anyway (1 instance of it).
     
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    Can you please tell us which providers you tried with no success ?