Google releasing a large update today
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I have disavow these tooo.
- Mar 22, 2013
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Here is was I think:
Before Google had such a thing as "Manual Penalty" you may remember it. It was this weird email/message where you knew you fucked up. Somehow these "Manual Penalties" became less and less. Now you are fucked up without having any clue why. Now if your site gets tanked, you won't see any manual penalty message or such. Why? Because it's not a manual penalty anymore. It's an algo penalty now.
The Google algorithm went full AI. The AI algorithm keeps learning and making mistakes...this is why some search results are so insanely absurd. This is why there is no Google employee addressing crawling or indexing issues. They have no power over the algorithm anymore. I guess this "AI algorithm" fully rolled out on 17th December...or at least they started testing it on a heavy scale.
Please just think about it for a minute: The rankings are not stable anymore. Why? Because the algorithm is not getting manually updated by humans anymore. Instead, they are just updating/feeding/fixing the AI. Some rankings/search results don't make sense. Suddenly there are crawling and indexing issues, which didn't get fixed in several months (why? because the AI is doing the job - and the AI is far from perfect at the moment). Websites are getting tanked/sandboxed on a heavy scale, automatically and sometimes without any reason.
And this AI algorithm is just one component of this HUGE complex big data network (Google Maps, Translator, Android, Google Play and all its apps, YouTube etc.) - this is why sometimes you get these weird video recommendations on YouTube with videos being 8 years old. Its all connected... and they introduced/started using it just last year.
Before Google had such a thing as "Manual Penalty" you may remember it. It was this weird email/message where you knew you fucked up. Somehow these "Manual Penalties" became less and less. Now you are fucked up without having any clue why. Now if your site gets tanked, you won't see any manual penalty message or such. Why? Because it's not a manual penalty anymore. It's an algo penalty now.
The Google algorithm went full AI. The AI algorithm keeps learning and making mistakes...this is why some search results are so insanely absurd. This is why there is no Google employee addressing crawling or indexing issues. They have no power over the algorithm anymore. I guess this "AI algorithm" fully rolled out on 17th December...or at least they started testing it on a heavy scale.
Please just think about it for a minute: The rankings are not stable anymore. Why? Because the algorithm is not getting manually updated by humans anymore. Instead, they are just updating/feeding/fixing the AI. Some rankings/search results don't make sense. Suddenly there are crawling and indexing issues, which didn't get fixed in several months (why? because the AI is doing the job - and the AI is far from perfect at the moment). Websites are getting tanked/sandboxed on a heavy scale, automatically and sometimes without any reason.
And this AI algorithm is just one component of this HUGE complex big data network (Google Maps, Translator, Android, Google Play and all its apps, YouTube etc.) - this is why sometimes you get these weird video recommendations on YouTube with videos being 8 years old. Its all connected... and they introduced/started using it just last year.
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I agree, it does seem like that but I wonder who in their right mind would now create content for the web based on sheer luck of getting in the good graces of the AI algorithm. It will never settle down and this dance will go on forever. If it's true, then this isn't a decent business model anymore and the AI itself should go on and add content for the masses.
RAP
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- Jun 15, 2018
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I really do not understand why some sites, 100% blackhat with sape links and all russian shits stay in 1st page FOR YEARS.
During these years hundreds of updates have been released and they had NEVER been tanked.
For my projects, however, no errors are admissible.
1 """"""""suspicious""""""" backlink, tanked, game over, stop, finish.
FUCK!
I am really fed up with this shit.
During these years hundreds of updates have been released and they had NEVER been tanked.
For my projects, however, no errors are admissible.
1 """"""""suspicious""""""" backlink, tanked, game over, stop, finish.
FUCK!
I am really fed up with this shit.
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Please learn not to be a jackass before accusing people of not knowing math. Learn how to spell properly too, it's math not "maths".
Maths is correct, so you should learn some English before correcting others. Maths is British and math is American.
Also, looks like your tracking software engineer needs to learn some maths.
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Shopllc
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- Apr 13, 2017
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Same here. New content not ranking for a month already. Sometimes these articles go up to pg 2-3 and then drop below page 10 again. I think Google has implemented a longer sandbox on new content.
I had the same thing with searching for a few products on Amazon.com and the results were in Spanish and when I clicked on the results I ended up on the Spanish version of Amazon.com. Another piece of evidence that this update is a mess.another evidence how google mess up this update,
was too lazy to write canva.com in the browser, just write canva and enter, and this is the google search result :
I don't even have a clue what language is it
just clicking on it and now this is the canva website looks in my browser, had now idea how to turn it back to english :
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About this may update :
- My web organic traffic down 30-40%, yet my image search traffic is steady.
- Previously, the total organic traffic to my site is around 50:50 (50% web search, 50% image search).
- It seems that my website search ranking is impact by this update, but doesn't impact the image search ranking.
- what i did to cover the lost traffic is producing and publish a lot of new images, and it worked well since my total traffic almost recovered but now the organic traffic ratio is around 30:70 (30% web, 70% images).
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I just had a couple of weird encounters using Google. First, I was searching for a device and Google would refuse to give me the official website of that product and then I got fed up and decided to search DuckDuckGo on Google and I sh1t you not, the official DDG site was pushed down by about 4-5 random articles. By the way, DDG gave me the official website for that device as the first option.
Shopllc
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I've had a problem with search too today. I forgot to bookmark an article in a small blog, but I remembered the title and put the exact title into Google search. Got 100 irrelevant pages from one single authority site instead of that article in that small blog, and those pages didn't even contain half of the keywords from that title. Had to search the browser history to find that article.
Good logic there pal. If it's used in America then it's correct as well. So therefore you and the other douchebag shouldn't be going around parading how your correct and how everyone else is incorrect.
And for your information, I was quoting exactly what I was shown in semrush so get off your high horse and piss off.
FYI:
On Wednesday Matt Diggity will have a FREE live webinar on what's working now after May 2020 core algorithm update.
There will be 3 SEO case studies and 30 min of open Q&A
If you are interested you can register here. It's free
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On Wednesday Matt Diggity will have a FREE live webinar on what's working now after May 2020 core algorithm update.
There will be 3 SEO case studies and 30 min of open Q&A
If you are interested you can register here. It's free
https://app.livewebinar.com/890-998-118/ae9e3af4ba852523d2d3f381259d3131
I have read all messages here and I'm in the same boat..
For the first weeks of the update I saw only decrease in long tail keywords and no movement on main keywords. Now I'm seeing some weird results on main keywords and a ton of dances.
I don't understand how google is working but I have some sites that got only a "little hit". All of those are adding content on them on auto and a lot of backlinks I made kinda BH.
Other sites that I tried to create links a little more "natural" are all dying day by day.
One thing I tried on one site, made the site load faster and to be green on google speed insights. (Here I see an increase after some days, still don't know if is this the reason but...)
(on 99 because I have some js for ads etc)
I still think that going max BH (with those google updates) is the way I need to follow.
Now searched a keyword and from 20 pages (that I stopped) I saw 3 different sites (position 4 8 9) and all the other results are from 1 site? wtf is this?
F**K you G!
For the first weeks of the update I saw only decrease in long tail keywords and no movement on main keywords. Now I'm seeing some weird results on main keywords and a ton of dances.
I don't understand how google is working but I have some sites that got only a "little hit". All of those are adding content on them on auto and a lot of backlinks I made kinda BH.
Other sites that I tried to create links a little more "natural" are all dying day by day.
One thing I tried on one site, made the site load faster and to be green on google speed insights. (Here I see an increase after some days, still don't know if is this the reason but...)
(on 99 because I have some js for ads etc)
I still think that going max BH (with those google updates) is the way I need to follow.
Now searched a keyword and from 20 pages (that I stopped) I saw 3 different sites (position 4 8 9) and all the other results are from 1 site? wtf is this?
F**K you G!
ehsanseo114
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- Jun 2, 2020
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Yes, and it has accelerated a lot more the last week than before (edit: since the beginning of May, I lost about 30-40K keywords according to Semrush)
Another weird thing that I noticed is that Google has no idea what to do with the dates. Some articles don't have a date, others do have the wrong date and I saw today an article with three dates!
kvvni
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- Feb 1, 2019
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LOL, same here. And dates of articles are not updating. And... I saw shitty websites with spun content and no links (or spammy PBN links), that got 2 or 3 results on first page. On main keyword. W T F
I checked the website that I have created a long time ago but I left it empty, only products on standard theme, no links, nothing. Guess what. It's going up, when the competition with such a great link profile is saying 'bye bye' to the top.
It has been previously joked about, but seriously now, the solution is to go full black hat - ideally with new websites.