Google + making a big impact on new sites

Links are more important than social signals when thinking only about search engine optimization.

However Google is not everything. Social signals from real people can sometimes bring really good traffic.

GoForJacob said:

I'm fairly new to a holistic SEO approach.

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Given your 1st question, it's a bit silly to even consider starting an SEO business. I'm planning on starting a brain surgery business. The first thing I need to do is go to college and get a degree. It signals a lack of respect for the thing you claim you are going to expect people to pay money for.

Also, the buzzy-sounding phrase "holistic SEO approach" sounds like that mushy-middle bullshit that uneducated people blather when attempting to present themselves as having knowledge when they do not. This only works on the ignorant, and is not a long-term and sustainable strategy for a business, unless your business model is to screw people on a regular basis, by charging them exorbitant amounts in order to defray the costs of having to constantly find new customers to replace those that leave you once they've discovered you cannot possibly deliver the results that you've promised, because you lack the basic awareness of the very service you are selling.

So that's strike #1 and #2 for you to think about.

Second, I briefly scanned through the responses here and currently believe that none of them are relevant to you, because none that I could find mentioned Local Citations, which indicates to me that the respondents in this thread are similarly encumbered by ignorance of the topic.

SEO in general, and Local SEO in particular is about the precise use of language. If this seems overly nit-picky to someone, well tough shit. Welcome to brain surgery, where it's either correct or it's wrong, and no partial credit is given for being "almost right" with a whole lot of passion and wishful thinking surrounding that WRONG answer.

For a new site, the ONLY thing an SEO should be concerned with is creating a mostly to fully completed GP listing, and care should be taken to not confuse the difference between GP and G+, as allowing Google to "fuse" those two together firmly places that business in the "Beta-testing" class and anecdotal reports indicates that GP delivers better search results than G+ listing. My advice is that if there is any doubt at all of the SEO's abilities (see my initial comments), it would be best to avoid G+ altogether, as there are more important citations to worry about.

In general Yes, it's the "best thing" for a "new site" to establish GP, and then move on to other Local Citations in a prioritized manner from most important to less important, however the syntax of the question alludes to something MORE important, which is that SEO, particularly Local SEO is something that can be done by democratic consensus.

Welcome to brain surgery. Do we cut at this point on the parietal lobe, or further down, on the frontal lobe. Oh, I don't know. Let's take a vote of the janitorial staff, after all they all work in the hospital and have been here for years. And after the vote is taken, everyone agrees and consensus is formed except for this one disgruntled and angry brain surgeon, who comes off as arrogant and abrasive and in general we don't like him.

So he obviously doesn't know a damn thing about brain surgery.

I have more to say, but haven't the time, as I have my own question to ask in a thread I'm about to start. Note, that in my thread, I'm not going to ask the peanut gallery how they feel about what they think they understood about the emotive qualities my question provoked, but instead I'll be paying attention to who answers the question I ask, how they construct their answer, how well they understand the question and how well they deliver the answer with absolutely no regard to how I might feel about the answer.

THAT guy, I'm going to pay attention to, and will probably ignore everyone else.

I agree that it does seem G+ doesn't rank well based on our own experience.

The most important thing you can do for a new site is a PRWEB.com Press release

I still get traffic from press releases I let out in 2002.

basanti said:

The most important thing you can do for a new site is a PRWEB.com Press release

I still get traffic from press releases I let out in 2002.

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PRWEB wants $99.00 for a single press release. That's the lowest, most-basic service you can get. I'm on online chat with PRWEB right now, and the guy started off quoting me $3000 a year. "most customers" pay that. Yeah, in his wildest wet dreams they get "most customers" dropping $3K each year.

But in the real world, I need to see some evidence that there is something useful to be gained by even spending $100. He doesn't seem to be able to show me an example of what PRWEB can deliver to a local business for $100.

Can you?