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Google IS counting my "no Follow" backlinks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TheInternetViking, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    Today I finally ranked for a very competitive phrase that I have been working on for about 2 months.

    After much hooping, hollering and rejoicing I decided to log in to Google Webmaster Tools so I could bask in the glory of my efforts.

    Then I made an interesting discovery. I used Scuttle sites as a large portion of my linking strategy. The problem with Scuttle sites, as you know, is that many of them are "no follow". I had read through several of the threads here that said to post on "no follow" sites anyway and maybe it will help with Yahoo! and Bing (which is gay as hell, IMHO).

    Well, much to my surprise, those "no follow" scuttle sites were showing up as backlinks to my site!

    I'd like to hear your experiences on the subject.

    Thanks!

    ~The Internet Viking~
     
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  2. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    Has anybody else seen Google add "no follow" sites to their backlinks?
     
  3. natatasha32

    natatasha32 Registered Member

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    Yes...

    A couple of authority sites and USFreeAds all have "no follow" tags yet they have been showing as backlinks too.

    I recently di a test with USFreeAds and a new blog post. I linked the blog post from one of my USFreeAds and was indexed quickly and in position 2 of page 1 2 days after I posted my ad.

    And the ONLY backlink to this post was from the "no Follow" USFreeAds! No pings, no social bookmarkings..nothing else but the ad!
     
  4. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    Lol, My scuttle sites were far from "authority" sites. This site (scuttleplus) was a PR0 and all the links were turned to "no follow".

    This is good stuff. I'm a believer now. I'm gonna link to anything and everything for a backlink.

    @Crooker, Thanks for the +rep. I appreciate that. I'm going to read over the thread you posted.

    ~The Internet Viking~
     
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  5. TheHockeyGod

    TheHockeyGod Newbie

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    The webmaster tools backlinks thing most likely uses a different codebase than the ranking algorithms.

    This is probably a case of Google never updating the webmaster tools code to look for the nofollow attribute.

    Just because it's showing in webmaster tools doesn't mean that it's used in the ranking algorithm.
     
  6. robertodelgato

    robertodelgato Regular Member

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    Wouldn't the fact that TheInternetViking's ranking strategy - which used primarily nofollow sites to get ranked for a competitive phrase - seem to indicate that it MIGHT have some validity?? :rolleyes:

    I mean WGAF it IT WORKS? :D

    And by IT, I mean nofollow backlinks, Free ad links, comment spamming, PR0 article directory submission, and burning incense to the ancestors!

     
  7. Yukinari84

    Yukinari84 Elite Member

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    I've always believed that Google does rank no follow links. I t may not be 100% of the time, but they do.

    I have run tests where I would promote my site using only no follow sites like Digg etc, and Google does show the backlinks from these sites. And my sites would rank well in the SERPs for my targeted phrase.

    This is why I always tell people not to get too hung up in whether a link is no follow or not to the point where they ignore using good sites because they are no follow.
     
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  8. skyrain

    skyrain Registered Member

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    I thought that they would always count as backlinks and help with rankings, and the only thing is that they wouldn't be too effective (if at all) for flowing PAGE RANK to your site? Do I have that all wrong or something?
     
  9. Yukinari84

    Yukinari84 Elite Member

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    It's hard to say 100% for sure, but after my tests and reading other people's results as well, this is more along the lines of what I believe.
     
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    keith6andco Regular Member

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    I do remember seeing something about this. I think it was something like it is not the fact that google does not attach link juice to no follows but more that the pages YOU mark as no follow - on YOUR site google considers YOU think these pages as of little or no importance therefore those pages may not have any serps but they still have PAGE RANK

    I checked some of my own and as usual, the big G is right - I DO have PR on no follow pages but the serps is crap - like 1000 - so if anyone wants to place links there they will still pick up a little jiuce

    Thanks for bring this point back to the surface Yukinari - I had completely forgotten about it

    Regards
     
  11. tranduyninh

    tranduyninh Newbie

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    please remmember that comment in pligg site is ********
     
  12. FrozenSpade

    FrozenSpade Power Member

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    Nofollow = counts in PR or linkbuilding is a mith

    Yes it is possible that nofollow lins appear in webmasters. They get indexed but offer absolutely no value to your site. This is confirmed by matt cutts and think about it: I won't have any function if this wouldn't be true.
     
  13. Megalomaniac Midget

    Megalomaniac Midget Power Member Premium Member

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    The only people who say that, are the ones who have never tested. nofollow carry's alot less weight, but they still have an effect on your rank.

    I suppose seoquake & the seobook toolbars have delicious there just for shits & giggles :rolleyes:
     
  14. stung

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    wtf?!
    You'll see Digg links showing up because they're ******** not nofollow! I just checked it again on SEO Quake...

     
  15. shapsp

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    Yes no follow count as Backlinks.
    The more backlinks you have the better and faster you get indexed.

    AND ******** allows for the increase of PAGE-RANKS.
    so if you get a high pr site with ******** and you are able to get youe link there.

    expect to see a incerease in pagerank.

    which will enable better rankings.

    MATT from google said,

    work on META TAGS and LINK BUILDING

    so do it if you want to be ranked.
     
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    webchick11 Newbie

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    Matt Cutts said in September, 2009 that meta tags are useless for Google and that they are focusing on content.
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    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/keywords-meta-tag-in-web-search/
    I too believe that no-follow does slightly affect PR.
     
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  17. Yukinari84

    Yukinari84 Elite Member

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    It's not always for every link, but for any link which Digg deems unworthy basically.

    You can see the whole post on Digg's blog:

    Code:
    http://blog.digg.com/?p=864
     
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    i made an experiment, giving out many nofollow links the testing blog dropped ranking...
    so gaining many nofollow links means rising ranking... i guess :)
     
  19. SpiderWebMaster

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    ******** links only help your PR(and honnestly PR is only good so you can charge more for ad space) and not don't have influence in search results itself. despite the fact that they say nofollow, google will in fact follow the links and spider the pages, thus showing the backlinks in your webmaster tools.

    this has been a controversy so far but i can tell you by my own experience that nofollow backlinks help to give your site search engine visibility.
     
  20. AKOEAJA

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    I would like to try this, is it working or not !