Getting Paid Completely Anonymous

aka_ab · Dec 23, 2017

I will buy offshore domain and hosting using bitcoins. I will buy these bitcoins using my personal debit card on clearnet. I will transfer them to a wallet created with Tor and exchange it for Monero and then again to bitcoin. Tumble it a few times and send it to another wallet created using Tor. And finally pay the domain and host from this.

I will sign up for the host and ad-network using proton mail created using Tor. Find a ad-network that pays me in bitcoin. I will send this bitcoin to another address, convert to Monero and then back to bitcoin and tumble it a few times and finally send to my private wallet.

Now I have no clue how to cash out the bitcoins anonymously. I do not have issues paying taxes when cashing them out just that there should be no trace that I sent the bitcoins to myself. Is there anyway to do it anonymous?

All these are carried out on Tails OS running on a vmware that is saved in a encrypted folder but on the same internet you use for daily activities. I think using the same internet cannot reveal identity since all these are done inside a vm running tails.
There are still chances for revealing your identity when you upload stuff to your site that you downloaded to your computer without anonymity. Is there way to overcome this?

Can the above methods guarantee complete anonymity?

I am just curious about knowing the ways one can stay anonymous in the internet while using the same for earning. I have no intentions to indulge in any illegal activity.

Deleted member 913868 · Dec 23, 2017

Are you going to sell illegal stuff on your website or what? Why do you need high anonymity?

aka_ab said:
There are still chances for revealing your identity when you upload stuff to your site that you downloaded to your computer without anonymity. Is there way to overcome this?

Can the above methods guarantee complete anonymity?

Running Tails on a Virtual machine has security problems than running it on a USB.
Check this: https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization/index.en.html

aka_ab · Dec 23, 2017

Shehara said:
Are you going to sell illegal stuff on your website or what? Why do you need high anonymity?

Running Tails on a Virtual machine has security problems than running it on a USB.
Check this: https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization/index.en.html

Whonix can be a better option to run on a Virtual machine

HoNeYBiRD · Dec 23, 2017

aka_ab said:
I do not have issues paying taxes

aka_ab said:
I have no intentions to indulge in any illegal activity.

What do you need complete anonymity for then?
Something doesn't add up here. What do you need the offshore hosting for?
Not talking about the fact that while you're "tumbling", you'll get buttfucked with fees.

No-one will be interested in your activities unless they're highly illegal or you're a mayor player and you in yourself can affect the reputation/functionality of sites negatively.

If you worry about cashing out, there are close to 2,000 BTC ATMs operating all around the world. Pay some bum for his/her identity, get the BTC card and withdraw.

aka_ab · Dec 23, 2017

HoNeYBiRD said:
What do you need the offshore hosting for?

I found few hosting sites that do not want personal info and all of them were offshore.

HoNeYBiRD said:
What do you need complete anonymity for then?

Just to maintain privacy. I read online that even with whois protection , your personal information can be traced. And to hide from ISP and hosting providers that monitor your activity

HoNeYBiRD · Dec 23, 2017

aka_ab said:
I found few hosting sites that do not want personal info and all of them were offshore.

Hosting yes, but you still need a domain and if that is registered under a fake persona, that can be taken away from you, if you can't prove ownership. Rarely happens, but it can happen. If you found domain registrars, which don't require personal info, those can't be too legit, because this requirement is an ICANN regulation, which cannot be overridden by registrars. Practically - if you don't trust the domain privacy offered by the registrar - you need to commit fraud just to protect your privacy with the added risk that you can lose the domain. Is that a good trade?

aka_ab said:
Just to maintain privacy. I read online that even with whois protection , your personal information can be traced. And to hide from ISP and hosting providers that monitor your activity

Then what you described in your thread starter post is more than enough, you can't possibly need complete anonymity for cashing out.

Tbh you're just overcomplicating things for yourself.

Extruser · Dec 23, 2017

There are several nice books about this topic.
Best way is to set up several companies in
offshore places.

woodkons · Dec 23, 2017

You can also use a btc mixer to scatter the transactions with bitcoin.

highpowerpixel · Dec 23, 2017

Unless you're doing something illegal, then just whatever's convenient for you. Use regular hosting with whois protection. Pay with regular bank account, paypal or whatever you want. If somebody really wanted to they could get your info if they were a hacker, but it would be very hard and why would they even want to? Only use offshore hosting, bitcoin ect if you are doing a movie streaming site or something.

zackster · Dec 25, 2017

There aren't many ways to cash-out without exposing some personal information. Even selling the bitcoins for cash will reveal your identity.

Miketheguy · Dec 25, 2017

for the domain why don’t you use
https://njal.la ?

selembar · Dec 25, 2017

aka_ab said:
I am just curious about knowing the ways one can stay anonymous in the internet while using the same for earning.

The problem with this is not whether you can be completely anonymous or not.
The problem is how do you prove the anonymity.
Will you cooperate with NSA to evaluate your experiments?
Or, as long as nobody contact you, then you are anonymous?
How can you be so sure that your attempt was successful or failed?

Just a heads up:
You might want to make money doing legal services anonymously.
However, if you succeed, "people" would be suspicious about your service.
And when that happens, "people" will literally spying on you.

RickC137 · Jan 4, 2020

Would it be beneficial to use the bitcoin to purchase prepaid debit/gift cards and then make a withdrawal at any ATM?

James2774 · Jan 5, 2020

If nothing is illegal and youre not looking to avoid taxes, youre only looking to avoid sending btc to yourself, then sell the BTC on a P2P exchange.
Easy enough.
Youre over complicating or leaving out very important details.

Oakval · Jan 5, 2020

Virtual machine + vpn + buy bitcoin in cash

+ use encryption service like privnote.io or safenote.co when you send cryptocurrency addresses

gonevaduggan · Jun 28, 2021

aka_ab said:
I will buy offshore domain and hosting using bitcoins. I will buy these bitcoins using my personal debit card on clearnet. I will transfer them to a wallet created with Tor and exchange it for Monero and then again to bitcoin. Tumble it a few times and send it to another wallet created using Tor. And finally pay the domain and host from this.

I will sign up for the host and ad-network using proton mail created using Tor. Find a ad-network that pays me in bitcoin. I will send this bitcoin to another address, convert to Monero and then back to bitcoin and tumble it a few times and finally send to my private wallet.

Now I have no clue how to cash out the bitcoins anonymously. I do not have issues paying taxes when cashing them out just that there should be no trace that I sent the bitcoins to myself. Is there anyway to do it anonymous?

All these are carried out on Tails OS running on a vmware that is saved in a encrypted folder but on the same internet you use for daily activities. I think using the same internet cannot reveal identity since all these are done inside a vm running tails.
There are still chances for revealing your identity when you upload stuff to your site that you downloaded to your computer without anonymity. Is there way to overcome this?

Can the above methods guarantee complete anonymity?

I am just curious about knowing the ways one can stay anonymous in the internet while using the same for earning. I have no intentions to indulge in any illegal activity.

try betcobit it is complete anonymous you can add money by cryptocurrency and cash out by any payment methods you like.

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