SocialMediaManager
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If you Knew SEO as you claim you do then you dont need PTC
Finally, $40 per day with PTC sites journey
talaconheo
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So you are SEO coaching? I rather than teaching SEO to clients or help them bring their site rank high will make more money than doing this journey!!!
Man I've done PTC before, and the truth is we always lose, most of them are scam and RR always cheats. only click 1 or 4 ads daily and mostly zero at all... Earning only a fraction of a cent, Just like eating only a fraction of rice, lot worst than a pigeon hehe...But if that your point well continue your journey. But a piece of advice, dont waste your time with those sites, all u do is register a lot of them and "use auto click software" and leave them. Only login to there site to withdraw your earning but dont invest...
Yes, man it is strange one click they do per day, If I am rented referral I will do all clicks or nothing, we dealing with bots here 100%.
Do not worry I will not invest my money in it, cause I found the way to track different kind of members with almost any range of rented referrals.
XSilverClaw, if you had a chance to see real documented review, which expose this PTC industry... then will you invest your preciuos money in PTC?
I do not think so, cause of that I am doing this *waste of time shitty journal
for people like you who have money to waste and for people who do not have them but get deeply involved in PTC with fake reviews and marketing.So next year Nobel prize for katika pelase, first time ever nominated by BHW community, vote for me.
You are right man
I still know SEO and give (Americans specially $100 per session) coaching for their websites. Silos, better internal linking...Example little skill of mine (will not reveal cause it is BIG secret): I know to get new Youtube video for 3, 4 keywords phrases on first page on Youtube after 5 minutes without backlinking, fiverr gigs...
If I am on my comp 10 hours a day, member here from 2008 and on some other BH forums also, and 80% of my time I do research (I have pasive incomes I can afford this)... what you think, my head is full of mindmaps, knowledge.
But my problem is this: I am not multitasker, most of time I do net biz in my country which is not English language market.
Yes, I want to expend to english market but sadly I can not find *real product* or service to promote. I have some crazy criteria. I had membership site and in my heart is still good feeling about recurring payments, real customer support...
Right now I am *in between the jobs* mode, looking for some great BIG OR SMALL opportunity which will fire passion in me and get me 1500 - $2000 per month for starters.
Last 6 months I am in this mode and I rather waste time on some silly PTC journey and not in some industry which can not bring me those 1500 - 2000 per month!
Last one which brings some attention to me was lease a car industry.
Maybe I should open some journey about finding * old fashion God forgoten partners partnership* to reach my (our) goals
regards
katika
Wilson Grant Fisk
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So you can't find a satisfactory method that pays 1500-200 p/m, so your waste time with a PTC method which will pay you nothing?
You are a very strange man.
The only way, people make money with PTC, is to start their own PTC site and then disappear when it is time to pay out.
Obviously this is fraud. The people attracted to PTC tend to be either naive or desperate. They don't have ANY money.
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Only way to make money in PTC is to own PTC site.
You can look on old flippa auctions or digitalp forum auctions just to get some ideas.
Basically you need to setup site - it is easy part.
And then u need to invest a lot in promoting that site on other PTC sites, to be active on PTC forums and post fake reviews in order to prove that your site is not scam (like many new sites are).
That is all business model, simple stupid...
You can look on old flippa auctions or digitalp forum auctions just to get some ideas.
Basically you need to setup site - it is easy part.
And then u need to invest a lot in promoting that site on other PTC sites, to be active on PTC forums and post fake reviews in order to prove that your site is not scam (like many new sites are).
That is all business model, simple stupid...
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Deki now U disappointed me, if Americans do not have time to read, I know U have. I said: here I am from 2005, before YouTube era man. And my head is full of all kind of tricks, cheets and methods. nothing on english market turns me on. I do this PTC journey for small people, to expose that myth... if it is real scam or else.
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Wilson Grant Fisk
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Yes I waste time on PTC journey cause now I do not have better way to spend my time, you are right. I have $600 bings, 5 new domains which I never used...
Look man I waste 10 min. per day (30 seconds prepare for Imacros to click on ads, 1 minute I prepare my scrape tool to get current data from 20-30 PTCmembers, 5 minutes to look data.
Plus - I waste time posting here, so we can become friends, if you read closely you will find good gems here
In every buseness owner make money, will he disappear after some success? Owner shave too much? Do not pay at all? Pay with delay? Think about Big G, ClickBank, CPA menagers... that's a men nature. After getting some money, person show what kind of man he is.
PTC community is much larger than BH community, that is a fact (like it or not) . Lot of naive or desperate people - you say. Are they really? It is in human nature to try easier way, to be sold...
Simply they are sold on idea, 7 deadly sins, greed, false marketing, easy money or else. Common *whitehat* people.
After some time lot of them will become BH members
One of my best customers and now good friend of mine is NLP guy. I teched him marketing he teached me those *head things*. And my first ebooks about marketing was: Buy Impulse and Killer Mini Sites. Hot buttons, imagine things, triggers... read them. Jim Edwards was my first model.
katika
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Wilson Grant Fisk
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Yes I waste time on PTC journey cause now I do not have better way to spend my time, you are right. I have $600 bings, 5 new domains which I never used...
Look man I waste 10 min. per day (30 seconds prepare for Imacros to click on ads, 1 minute I prepare my scrape tool to get current data from 20-30 PTCmembers, 5 minutes to look data.
Plus - I waste time posting here, so we can become friends, if you read closely you will find good gems here
In every buseness owner make money, will he disappear after some success? Owner shave too much? Do not pay at all? Pay with delay? Think about Big G, ClickBank, CPA menagers... that's a men nature. After getting some money, person show what kind of man he is.
PTC community is much larger than BH community, that is a fact (like it or not) . Lot of naive or desperate people - you say. Are they really? It is in human nature to try easier way, to be sold...
Simply they are sold on idea, 7 deadly sins, greed, false marketing, easy money or else. Common *whitehat* people.
After some time lot of them will become BH members
One of my best customers and now good friend of mine is NLP guy. I teched him marketing he teached me those *head things*. And my first ebooks about marketing was: Buy Impulse and Killer Mini Sites. Hot buttons, imagine things, triggers... read them. Jim Edwards was my first model.
katika
OK, well despite all the advice against it, it seems you are determined to continue.
I think you would be more productive and more profitable doing ANYTHING else.
All I can say is Good Luck then.
Black.Cat
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OFF-TOPIC:
What were the charges? Was he/she doing anything illegal? I'm curious because I want to start PPI.
Together in my room we found this blackhat forum... after that I never sow him again, Once we talked over phone after a month, he said he doing PPI, explain me whole model...
I was against dropping anything on people's computers. For every install he got $1. I think he made from third to half million.
Canadians made some move with our police, and he was arrested in 2011. They just said it is about $70 000.
haiphuong312
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Good luck to you
greenmusic
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PTC = CRAP
Sorry Op, I had to do it....
Sorry Op, I had to do it....
That is good Question meashis, I will add 2 words to that question if you do not mind? So,
What is PTC TO BLACKHATTER?
Let me try to give answer to this question.
(and sorry for my english, my customers say it is OK when we speak over Skype)
I think we have 3 points of view here:
- As a (future) owner of PTC site
- As a publisher on PTC site
- As a member on PTC site
Basicly we have platform where everybody know that people are payed to watch website content (3 - 60 seconds)
For publisher - U can use it if you want lot of visits to your sites from different IP adress to boost your Alexa rank, to drive kind a *low value traffic, to mix it with better one or else (people who watching websites are mainly from poor countries, so they will not buy stuff you promote). Find usage here if you can.
For members - I see PTC sites as strategy money game (like those offline or online strategy farm games). Basicly you need to spend 10 - 30 minutes per day on your game and after 6 - 12 months when your empire grow... if you know how to play... you can get some income, kind a residual. U manage your workers and your strategy and if U are good menager U will get some profit.
From my initial tests (not proven yet) U can get $5 - $15 per day per PTC site. That money you get daily after 6-12 months with some startup investment ($30 - $100). And if you are member on few similar PTC sites do the math for bigger profit.
As I said, few times in this thread, this *game* is not so great for people from solid standard countries (maybe as owner of PTC site, not as member) simply cause money is not good.
But if you are from poor country, or maybe if you lack in internet skills this can be kind of opportunity.
PTC sites have lot of members, reality is proof here.
Now, like in every area of life 5-10% will get it, 90% will fail. Persistence is the KEY.
I will not judge this money game now, my journey is here to give some answers based on facts. I will post some data very soon, to see some statistics from different kind of member types ( these days most advertized and popular PTC sites).
PS. For all people who care about me
and my problem to find some good product or service to promote - I am thinking about teespring... my wife is PhotoShop expert, there are some studies on forum... I know Facebook advertizing... so this can be fun and worthy (I will research this one)regards
katika
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Wilson Grant Fisk
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PTC = Pay to click. Yes people really do get paid to browse CRAP sites that can't get search traffic. Unfortunately you get paid 0.0000000000001 cent per site (or some other ridiculously low amount) to view it for 30 secs before another CRAP site is displayed.
After 8 solid years you might earn $11.50 but by that time the PTC owner will have run off without making any payments.
Without doubt, it is the worst way to make money on the internet. Only noobs, the naive and the desperate tend to do it.
W130SN what is your problem? Lost money in PTC game?
Every few post here you are with some silly post to keep my thread alive
Wilson Grant Fisk
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W130SN what is your problem? Lost money in PTC game?
Every few post here you are with some silly post to keep my thread alive
How could I lose Money, when nobody makes money from PTC.
Somebody wanted the definition, and I provided it.
Unlike YOUR long winded nonsense.
Here comes big Smiley
when I see how U think and act it is not strange why me from Europe need to teach Americans how to think for success. (or create stuff: Google for example).
Here is one advice for you and others: try in every occasion, post, conversation... to get something positive from it, especially if you dealing with negative things or thnigs which get on your nerves, and soon you will become bigger, better person, who see lot of hidden things.
I do not promote PTC sites here, I will not put PTC aff. link here. I do not prapare this thread for my funnel.
If you want to be helpful point me to some good teespring info, about rules what I can and can not put on those shirts
katika