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Difficulty of outranking Wikipedia for keyword?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aidennn, Mar 5, 2012.

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  1. aidennn

    aidennn Registered Member

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    Hey guys,

    I am doing some keyword research at the moment, and a few of the keywords that I am looking at have Wikipedia as the first two results.

    Local search comes into play as well, and the 6 subsequent spots in Google are populated with local business maps listings.

    Traffic Travis lists the keyword as "Relatively Easy"

    Would it be possible to outrank Wikipedia and the local businesses with an EMD and good content? If so, how difficult do you suppose it would be?


    Thanks!

    ~aiden~
     
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  2. manny521

    manny521 Supreme Member

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    Wikipedia is hard to outrank. Its not impossible, but not likely.

    You can outrank google places listings, but again not super easy.
     
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  3. Ghoast

    Ghoast Power Member

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    anyone else have any info on this subject?
     
  4. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    Wikipedia is easy to outrank.

    You just need to have good onpage seo (SEO Pressor plugin) and good High PR Links from networks like FBL, BAN, and ALN.
     
  5. malloxis

    malloxis Registered Member

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    pretty difficult.
     
  6. tonyp

    tonyp Regular Member

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    I'm happy to see you're back bobby.

    is seo pressor plugin better than yoast?
     
  7. Kikerinka

    Kikerinka Senior Member

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    IT depends if the word you want to outrank is commonly used or not. If it is, many people will link in their articles to Wikipedia (the exact page you compete with), just to make their link building look more natural or their site more authority.

    If it is a case, and the article is typical WIkipedia quality (2K plus words), it is nearly impossible to outrank it.
     
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  8. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Stop giving bad advice.
     
  9. Poppa Rotzee

    Poppa Rotzee Power Member Premium Member

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    Or you can always just pick a different keyword =D
     
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  10. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This.
    Imo, you have two types of wiki listings.
    1. Not many backlinks, but ranks high because it's wiki. Still hard to beat, but can be done.
    2. As above, a common word, or common reference, that people link to wiki. These are very hard to beat... some crappy ALN links and a on page plugin aren't going to do it lol. Go to www.opensiteexplorer.org and enter the wiki address. It'll give you an idea of how hard it is. Ones with page authority of 80+ are very hard to beat.
     
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  11. Ramsweb

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    Wikipedia is difficult to beat. However, since they don't sell anything, your ctr at #2 will be higher than what it is in other niches where a seller might be the first result.
     
  12. ta1212

    ta1212 Registered Member

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    I've outranked wikipedia a few times. Not easy, but definitely possible. Think outside of the box. :D