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Derren Brown - Lottery Numbers

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tirral, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. tirral

    tirral Newbie

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    Tonight at 10:30 in the uk channel 4 Derren Brown is going to predict the lottery numbers 10 minutes before the machine chooses them on BBC1!

    Jackpot: £ 2.4 million

    So here are some theories:

    1. The lottery is perhaps recorded and isn’t live and Derren Brown has access to it
    2. He’s going to write down the numbers and put them in an envelope and then announce the numbers afterwards doing some kind of hand play to make them right
    3. He has studied the lottery numbers and found some sort of problem with the machine that makes certain numbers more probable, and he will choose 5 numbers, but has only committed to getting 4 right, with the fifth being a bonus
    4. He’s bought a load of lottery tickets – one for each number (£14 million) – he would certainly win a lot of it back and perhaps then he knows he will make more money in books, dvd sales than he loses.

    Anyone else got any theories?

    This should be an interesting watch and apparently he is going to reveal how it is done :D

    But if you know who Derren Brown is, you will know he tells the story in a mixed up way. Maybe because he dont want us to know how he does his tricks?

    There will be 4 show spanning 4 weeks and i will definatly be watching! ;)

    Channel 4 Advert: (The Original and Reversed)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2SWnogOxpY

    4 Weeks Of Shows
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPbkjtzXn5M

    Will he get them right? Will be interesting to see!

    Let me know what you think.

    Tirral
     
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  2. antsaoo

    antsaoo Supreme Member

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    If you buy lottery tickets for every number there is still change that someone else get all right too and you share the pot and youll lose money o_0
     
  3. Something

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    Derren Brown would make a great blackat marketer
     
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    Therookie BANNED BANNED

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    lET ME JUST GET MINE AND THEY ARE:::
    bzzt gr ag fttta da
     
  5. iglow

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    I want to see how it goes
     
  6. Damo8884

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    I've seen him count the exact number of hundreds of buttons or summat, just by looking at a pile of them for a second or two, I recon he's gonna predict the number in the split seconds before it comes out of the machine, one by one... That's my prediction anyway!
     
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    2,11,23,28,35,39

    Are my numbers :)
     
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  8. tirral

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    Place your numbers now. see if you can predict the numbers!
     
  9. Damo8884

    Damo8884 Newbie

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    8, 12, 19, 24, 27, 46 bonus ball 11
     
  10. IcedCube

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    Derren Brown is epic.
     
  11. supermat007

    supermat007 Regular Member

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    Already seen him live twice.......and meet him. Being in the Magic Circle, you meet alot of these cool people ;)
     
  12. kendra

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    Another theory. The lottery is rigged; all numbers are entered into a computer system. The system knows how many of which combinations of numbers will win. The computer decides if it is time for someone to win. If it says "No", then the winning balls do not drop out. (The balls are magnetically charged - so the machine can choose the balls). If the computer says "Yes", the winning balls drop out.

    More of a scam than blackhat.

    My prediction: Derren Brown will get just one ball wrong. We will all be left wondering if he got it wrong intentionally.
     
  13. tirral

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    Nice thinking kendra.

    And yes i think he will get 1 wrong also. but will it be intentional?
     
  14. Takada

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    1. i dont think so. i guess it is the national lottery. therefore heavily supervised and regulated. they would never let somebody do such a thing just for a tv show.

    2. yeah, that's more like it.

    3. see nr.1. there is no problem with lottery machines. therefore you cant study them. did he say he will guess 4 out of 5?

    4. the lotteries that i know just pay out 50% of the money people "invest". so you can never win everything back. especially if you consider that its possible that other people have the same number as another poster mentioned.

    my guess would be a combination of 2,3 and 4. he buys as many combinations so that he always gets 4 out of 5 (costs 1,4 mil if your calculations are correct). with some kind of hand trick he makes it seem as if this were the only numbers he chose.

    winning everything back is not really important. as you mentioned there is always some kind of production budget, etc.


    too bad i cant watch it here. i really liked the show with the betting on horse races.
     
  15. turner

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    well?

    was d. brown anywhere near?
     
  16. equin0x

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    It's not for 22 minutes.
     
  17. Adlad

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    This guy is nothing more than a modern day court jester. Kinda sad how people still fall for his stupid tricks
     
  18. jammie

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    Got all of them right. in order. 100% live.

    Gonna be fun to find out how he did it!
     
  19. supermat007

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    Wow all right.

    BUT I bet on Friday its some bullcrap explination. Or just something to make it seem like thats how he did it
     
  20. tirral

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    The offical numbers!

    2,11,23,28,35,39 Bonus 15

    He got everyone right but he did not do the bonus ball!