Crypto Channels Slapped by YouTube!

We started a crypto page on YouTube back in Nov 2017 and began uploading a video a week during most weeks. The page started growing in subs and the daily view trend was up until February.

Then on the first week of March, our views and follower growth got crushed. We've published 8 videos since that time and all have gotten significantly less views than our first videos months before. We also get a lot of more spam comments and our subs barely get notified when a video goes up. See monthly view graphs below from SocialBlade.com:



We verified that this is happening to the great majority of cryptocurrency related pages, both big and small, all seeing a decline from 50-80% that started anywhere from Dec to Feb. I have also noticed that smaller pages tend to be in the upper end of this range.

Even though this analysis is far from scientific, I did pull up the same charts above for a number of other pages outside of the crypto space and they did not show the same trend.

Is this an all out war on cryptocurrency/Bitcoin related pages?

Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

fxmanaged said:

We started a crypto page on YouTube back in Nov 2017 and began uploading a video a week during most weeks. The page started growing in subs and the daily view trend was up until February.

Then on the first week of March, our views and follower growth got crushed. We've published 8 videos since that time and all have gotten significantly less views than our first videos months before. We also get a lot of more spam comments and our subs barely get notified when a video goes up. See monthly view graphs below from SocialBlade.com:

We verified that this is happening to the great majority of cryptocurrency related pages, both big and small, all seeing a decline from 50-80% that started anywhere from Dec to Feb. I have also noticed that smaller pages tend to be in the upper end of this range.

Even though this analysis is far from scientific, I did pull up the same charts above for a number of other pages outside of the crypto space and they did not show the same trend.

Is this an all out war on cryptocurrency/Bitcoin related pages?

Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

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Just people leaving the crypto world, i don't think Youtube will cap any category, you should start seeing more movement from now on (as soon as price goes up lol..)

What @terieh said. When Crypto goes down, there's a lot less talk (for ex me personally, I haven't really been into it for the past few months as it was a bearish market), I don't even look at what my Crypto Assets are. Will be focusing on it again shortly as long as it's a bullish market we have.

terieh said:

Just people leaving the crypto world, i don't think Youtube will cap any category, you should start seeing more movement from now on (as soon as price goes up lol..)

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That's what I think too sir. I was a part in few crypto Discords back in December/Jan and every single time I joined there, there were people talking in the voice chat or spamming the chat rooms. If you go now, there will be 10 people max in the voice channel and no discussion at all.

Wow would you look at that! The same trend as your views? Who would of guessed?


https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=bitcoin

Crypto is on the downswing right now, dont expect a lot of views until prices start exploding again

terieh said:

Just people leaving the crypto world, i don't think Youtube will cap any category, you should start seeing more movement from now on (as soon as price goes up lol..)

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This does not explain the entire story.

Obviously there may be a correlation with Google trends and some loss in views, but this has nothing to do with other issues that I'll discuss below. It's very easy to point the finger at two similar charts and claim correlation, but remember that correlation does not always mean causation.

Example 1: Our existing subscriber base, which is much higher now than when we started in November, is not being notified when our videos are released. The initial surge in traffic for new videos is very dependent on existing followers. If YouTube does not notify them, then the initial traffic snowball will never really take place.

Example 2: Our traffic source ratio is also significantly skewed. Initially, we had a historical average about a 76% of our video traffic being driven from YouTube and the rest external and now that has shifted to about 50%+ external. This has nothing to do with market direction or search trends.

Example 3: Spam comment increase correlated with the loss in views. The minute the channel went completely silent, we started getting spammed with Russian comments and other trash, which previously would have been filtered automatically, no questions asked.

Example 4: Our comments are instantly hidden. Comments that we make on other pages that we typically interact with are being hidden by default the minute we make them, even though the pages we make them on approve the comments and reply to them.

How do you correlate the above issues with Google trends or decreasing market moves? Coincidence? I don't think so.

Oh by the way, and all of this is happening while Google has been actively developing blockchain solutions themselves.

hay706 said:

Wow would you look at that! The same trend as your views? Who would of guessed?


https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=bitcoin

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Read my prior comments as to why the whole Google trend chart does not explain the issues being discussed here.

Here are 3 more reasons as to why the whole market price and search trend drop don't give you the entire story:

1. The total "interest" (as alleged by Google Trends) is the same now as it was in November, when our channel got more views. Unless you claim that it isn't the total interest, but the acceleration or some other more complex AI-driven mathematical function of the actual interest/views that YouTube uses to give a channel back it's reach, then the chart above does not entirely justify the drop in channel/video views. The reality is that views now should not be lower than when the channel started and actually got more views.
   
   
2. The lack of subscriber notification issue that I mentioned was not a gradual occurrence. We have technical and engineering backgrounds and measure everything. We're not idiots. The switch was more binary than anything else.
   
   
3. The spam comment issue has no explanation, but it just so happens to coincide EXACTLY with the "binary" switch from views to no views.

Probably there's a correlation with Google restricting crypto's on Adsense... https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/7648803?hl=en&ref_topic=29265
and it is implementing it on YT too... Im just not sure...

Another explanation would be, definitely there are a lot of crypto channels popping out saturating your niche...

With your subscribers not getting notified when you upload a new video, YT has that new Notification tab that your subs need to click in order to be notified... (Yeah that sucks!)

Thats all I can think of for now...

Crypto going to die soon.

Nut-Nights said:

Crypto going to die soon.

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Long live crypto lol

raylewis98 said:

Probably there's a correlation with Google restricting crypto's on Adsense... https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/7648803?hl=en&ref_topic=29265
and it is implementing it on YT too... Im just not sure...

Another explanation would be, definitely there are a lot of crypto channels popping out saturating your niche...

With your subscribers not getting notified when you upload a new video, YT has that new Notification tab that your subs need to click in order to be notified... (Yeah that sucks!)

Thats all I can think of for now...

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Yes, I agree with you regarding the possible correlation with the Adsense restriction. Nevertheless, Adsense relates to paid ads. If they are actually screwing with YouTube organic results, that's a much more serious matter relating to Freedom of Speech.

Your second explanation regarding the increased competition from other channels is not a very strong one. The restriction in views that I'm referring to took place all of the sudden at the beginning of March. It wasn't a gradual effect associated with competition. It also doesn't make any sense that there was a surge of competition as the market was dropping.

Nut-Nights said:

Crypto going to die soon.

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This is the funniest thing I've heard since I was born. I guess you can never get enough humor in forums.

maybe the channel itself got some sort of flag (it's not have to be the entier niche)
did you considered duplicate it to a new channel (spinning and uploading all the videos as new videos)?

Cyberars said:

maybe the channel itself got some sort of flag (it's not have to be the entier niche)
did you considered duplicate it to a new channel (spinning and uploading all the videos as new videos)?

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It's possible, but we haven't received any messages or anything about the violation of any terms, etc.

We have thought about starting another channel, but most of those videos discuss things that occurred in the past, so it won't make sense to upload them now.

Regarding whether it's a channel or niche specific "penalty", I have analyzed the SocialBlade view curve of difference cryptocurrency channels (large and small), and they all exhibit the same characteristic curve.

People are quick to blame the falling Google Trends data on terms like "bitcoin" and "cryptocurrency" as the reason for the drop. Even though that it's indeed part of the reason, I think that there might be something more behind this. Right now I'm analyzing the daily Google Trend data from November 2017 (when we started uploading cryptocurrency videos) until today and comparing it to video-view data, including the first 7-day views for each video and the percentage of total views that came in during the first week. Everything is being normalized with the Google Trends data to see if the huge drop is mainly a result of waning global interest or an all-out attack by YouTube/Google.

The last few months i noticed a massive upload surge of cryptocurrency video targeting various keywords and titled videos that have high traffic in yt and was annoying to say the least. There was one specific channel that was uploading 12 videos per day for 5 days about crypto..he did gain traffic but the channel has since been suspended.

fxmanaged said:

We started a crypto page on YouTube back in Nov 2017 and began uploading a video a week during most weeks. The page started growing in subs and the daily view trend was up until February.

Then on the first week of March, our views and follower growth got crushed. We've published 8 videos since that time and all have gotten significantly less views than our first videos months before. We also get a lot of more spam comments and our subs barely get notified when a video goes up. See monthly view graphs below from SocialBlade.com:

We verified that this is happening to the great majority of cryptocurrency related pages, both big and small, all seeing a decline from 50-80% that started anywhere from Dec to Feb. I have also noticed that smaller pages tend to be in the upper end of this range.

Even though this analysis is far from scientific, I did pull up the same charts above for a number of other pages outside of the crypto space and they did not show the same trend.

Is this an all out war on cryptocurrency/Bitcoin related pages?

Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

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Overall searches for certain crypto terms like "Bitcoin" and "Cryptocurrency" have been significantly down. Check this article titled "
Google Searches for the Word “Bitcoin” Have Dropped 75% Since January Interest in Bitcoin is waning along with value":
https://www.financemagnates.com/cry...arches-word-bitcoin-dropped-75-since-january/

Many people in 2017 got scammed by youtubers which promoted Bitconnnnnnect. So now they want to secure their clients from this kind of offers which realted to cryptocurrency. These days its hard to build a stable youtube channel when it comes to cryptocurrency

myapps43 said:

Overall searches for certain crypto terms like "Bitcoin" and "Cryptocurrency" have been significantly down. Check this article titled "
Google Searches for the Word “Bitcoin” Have Dropped 75% Since January Interest in Bitcoin is waning along with value":
https://www.financemagnates.com/cry...arches-word-bitcoin-dropped-75-since-january/

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Yes, a decrease of search data should be obviously correlated with interest (searches), but our research shows that it does not explain the entire loss in YouTube traffic. In fact, there's at least an additional 50%+ loss in searches that cannot be accounted for by Google Trends correlation alone.

Xsesonit said:

Many people in 2017 got scammed by youtubers which promoted Bitconnnnnnect. So now they want to secure their clients from this kind of offers which realted to cryptocurrency. These days its hard to build a stable youtube channel when it comes to cryptocurrency

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Bitconnect was an obvious Ponzi scheme from the get-go. Everyone that is knowledgeable in crypto knew that this was so, but people overall are dumb and always fall for Ponzi schemes, whether their alleged backbone is crypto, stocks (e.g., Bernie Madoff), futures, bonds....you name it. Just look at all the gambling ads and videos. Do you want something where you have a lower chance of winning than gambling? I don't see those ads being controlled. There are many similar examples.

Because in Dec there was a bunch of newbies that left crypto after the price drop, good thing tho, we don't need them.
Also as i know, adsense forbid any ads about crypto, there could be something with youtube too.
Don't worry, now market is slowly recovering and more interested people will come. Crypto is not going anywhere, so we have all time of this world. Keep going.