Cloaking idea. Will this works?

Happy New Year!

I have and idea. Never read something related before so will post here and someone may help.

The idea:
1) page1 do 301 redirect to page2
2) page2 do 301 redirect to page3 only if the refferer is page1 (via PHP)

or

page1-->page2-->(if comes from page1)-->page3

Example:
page2 is amazon affiliate site
page3 is affiliate link to amazon product

page1 is any page or domain that redirects to page2

Than via PHP page2 checking the referrer. If the referrer is page1 it redirecting to page3. If the referrer is not page1 it display page2 or the amazon affiliate site.

What is happen - via page1 you can send visitor direct to amazon page - you can add this link (page1) on facebook, or on your site instead affiliate link or where you want. Amazon service seeng page2 as referrer. If they manual check page2 they will see amazon affiliate store. They will not be able to see page1 and will not ban.

Even page1 can be set to check if the referrer is e.g. googlebot, and if it is to redirect to other page.

Or serach engine robots, and stat checkers can see it somehow? As I read the search engine bots can follow javascriprs by DOM so for sure javascript redirect will be found, but can they found PHP (no)?

BUMP.

The good old method with redirect to amazon after click add to cart on the product using javascript redirect and the last link (to amazon) is vissible to search engine bots. The effect is the same as adding nofollow rel on the direct link.

In details.

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Okay I'm officially confused

Atul Sethi said:

please ping me on SKipe : [email protected]

I need your help and we can probably work together.

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Not sure if this works and hope someone may answer.

OP, you gotta test this on your own and see. It may or may not work for certain niches. If this is a very high competition niche, your biggest risk is a human competitor, not any of the search engine bots. 99% of cloaking is discovered by humans, not bots.

bartosimpsonio said:

OP, you gotta test this on your own and see. It may or may not work for certain niches. If this is a very high competition niche, your biggest risk is a human competitor, not any of the search engine bots. 99% of cloaking is discovered by humans, not bots.

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So, it is real some competitors report cloaked ads?

suportxd said:

So, it is real some competitors report cloaked ads?

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Not sure what you mean, but the answer is probably yeah.

bartosimpsonio said:

OP, you gotta test this on your own and see. It may or may not work for certain niches. If this is a very high competition niche, your biggest risk is a human competitor, not any of the search engine bots. 99% of cloaking is discovered by humans, not bots.

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I will test, but will disagree with the rest. Search engines can catch almos all cloacking techinque - all that use javascript and all that use direct 301 redirects.

Also my idea is to hide it for people as well - they will visit link3 only if visit link1 or visit link3 direct. So all visiors wich visit link1 see the link is cloacked.
link2 is main site - amazon affiliate website.

link1 can be changed e.g. it can md5 the date in url so the link1 will not works on the next day. It can even create dinamic url depending from the time - even in minutes.

So let say today is 07-01 in md5 it is 9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab12702 . Link1 going to be link1/9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab12702 . So on the next day link1/9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab127 will not works and will be transformed to new query. If competitor report the url from previous day it will looks stupid. We changing nothing in link2 (our affiliate site).

The main idea is to not cloack the links on the affiliate site, but to send visitors direct to e.g. amazon product and promote e.g. amazon products where this is restricted even via shortening or 301 redirect.

naskootbg said:

I will test, but will disagree with the rest. Search engines can catch almos all cloacking techinque - all that use javascript and all that use direct 301 redirects.

Also my idea is to hide it for people as well - they will visit link3 only if visit link1 or visit link3 direct. So all visiors wich visit link1 see the link is cloacked.
link2 is main site - amazon affiliate website.

link1 can be changed e.g. it can md5 the date in url so the link1 will not works on the next day. It can even create dinamic url depending from the time - even in minutes.

So let say today is 07-01 in md5 it is 9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab12702 . Link1 going to be link1/9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab12702 . So on the next day link1/9492aefb791eb0f5df8bd8d92ab127 will not works and will be transformed to new query. If competitor report the url from previous day it will looks stupid. We changing nothing in link2 (our affiliate site).

The main idea is to not cloack the links on the affiliate site, but to send visitors direct to e.g. amazon product and promote e.g. amazon products where this is restricted even via shortening or 301 redirect.

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Would be interested to see how this works out. Any update OP?

No,
Most possible was stupid idea.

Please, close this thread!

naskootbg said:

No,
Most possible was stupid idea.

Please, close this thread!

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Haha I didn't think it would work!