Case Against Bitcoin

Buzzika

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Bitcoin will die or is dying... At some point, one of the altcoins will take center stage.


When will this point come? IDK. I am not a smart guy, I don't understand everything under the sun. I am just a simple man who loves technology and all the great things that come with it.

I also notice flaws in the world around me, and BTC has a major one. It is appeasing the hedge fund owners, the exchanges more than the average Joe who wants to pay and get paid via BTC.

Btc got too big for its own good. The worst part is, it got big as a commodity which was never the intended use. It derives its value from users like us, who are giving it value. Not because some exchange said its worth $10k.

So what if it is being treated as an investment?
With transactions fees ranging from $10-$60, it is simply not a good way to transact at all.

Think about this: You want to send me $100, with fees you end up paying $120.
Along come BTC devs who might have some awesome update that will speed up transaction time and reduce txn fees. What happens? They get a very cold response. Nobody wants major changes. They have hedgefunds and bigass exchanges who want to maintain the status quo for their own good.


Let's go back in time.


December 2010


Wikileaks just had it's bank accounts and donations seized. Julian Assange was mulling about using something like BTC to raise funds to keep Wikileaks live.

Satoshi Nakamoto had this to say on the bitcoin forum:


No, don’t ‘bring it on.’ The project needs to grow gradually so the software can be strengthened along the way. I make this appeal to WikiLeaks not to try to use bitcoin. Bitcoin is a small beta community in its infancy. You would not stand to get more than pocket change, and the heat you would bring would likely destroy us at this stage.​


And he was right. That's exactly what happened, roughly. BTC got too big as a commodity for its own good. I know that's not exactly what Satoshi meant, but you get the point.

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Why shall we talk about crypto theory in blackhat, no point. Sicking tired of "seo is dead" and "crypto will die" yes, we all will die . How does that change IM in general - it doesn't or at least most of the ppl din't give a sh1t
 
I wish bhw had a filter for all these crypto threads.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/logout generally works well, and filters out every crypto thread from view.

@Buzzika I'm all for cases against Bitcoin, but in your 369 words, I was unable to see what the point was of your thread. It's clear you're trying to convey something, but what the hell is it?
 
Why shall we talk about crypto theory in blackhat, no point. Sicking tired of "seo is dead" and "crypto will die" yes, we all will die . How does that change IM in general - it doesn't or at least most of the ppl din't give a sh1t

Because I felt like talking about it? Also, I did not say crypto is dead.

I feel like most of you guys are replying based on the assumption that my post is the generic "btc is a bubble and will crash"

@Sherbert Hoover My point is, BTC is becoming a commodity. It derives value from being used as a currency, we the people give it value through out trades. Having $20 fees on a $50 txn is a recipe for failure.

BTC is just software at the end of the day. It needs to be tweaked, made better. Hedge funds, bigass investors & exchanges want to maintain the status quo. So bitcoin devs will have a hard time keeping pace with other altcoins due to this.
 
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Like you said,,,, you're not a smart guy you just a simple man but you must have the intelligence to see that Julian Assange didn't bring enough attention to BTC 7 years ago and it has had enough time to grow gradually.
7 years.... can you not move on?
 
https://www.blackhatworld.com/logout generally works well, and filters out every crypto thread from view.

@Buzzika I'm all for cases against Bitcoin, but in your 369 words, I was unable to see what the point was of your thread. It's clear you're trying to convey something, but what the hell is it?
You really tried to put that link against a marketer..:D nice try through.

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Wow. Lighting network is coming and once is fully applied to the network, transaction speed and fees will be no longer a problem.

Do you own research before you start saying these shiats.
 
This generally works well, and filters out every crypto thread from view.

@Buzzika I'm all for cases against Bitcoin, but in your 369 words, I was unable to see what the point was of your thread. It's clear you're trying to convey something, but what the hell is it?

When I hovered over this to see where it went I nearly spat out my coffee :)
 
Wow. Lighting network is coming and once is fully applied to the network, transaction speed and fees will be no longer a problem.

Do you own research before you start saying these shiats.

Well it depends on whos version of lightning network you believe. How can you speed up transaction times when bitcoins block mining time will always be 10 minutes and most exchanges use 6 block confirmation, it will always be an hour no matter what technology is used its the way the system is. The only way is to fork but then that's not BTC which is what the op is saying.
 
Well it depends on whos version of lightning network you believe. How can you speed up transaction times when bitcoins block mining time will always be 10 minutes and most exchanges use 6 block confirmation, it will always be an hour no matter what technology is used its the way the system is. The only way is to fork but then that's not BTC which is what the op is saying.
https://lightning.network
 
You really tried to put that link against a marketer..:D nice try through.

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I clicked on the link. At this point, I'd like to thank BHW for asking to confirm to log out and @Sherbert Hoover for nothing. Is it actually normal that Safari does not show the destination of a link when hovering? I do not spend attention on this that often.
 
I clicked on the link. At this point, I'd like to thank BHW for asking to confirm to log out and @Sherbert Hoover for nothing. Is it actually normal that Safari does not show the destination of a link when hovering? I do not spend attention on this that often.

Haha a long, long time ago I did the same but the link was on my signature in another forum and automatically liked one of my posts.

Sorry you were coaxed into a snafu, sir.
 
Haha a long, long time ago I did the same but the link was on my signature in another forum and automatically liked one of my posts.

Sorry you were coaxed into a snafu, sir.
Really great strategy to get some likes :D At least I had to look up "coaxed" and "snafu" so I've learnt something new from this.

I don't know if your combination of the words "like" and "my posts" triggered any hidden ninja bhw filters but I'm not able to like your post. I reloaded the page several times and nothing happens when I click on the thanks button. I am still able to like all other posts in this thread though, weird.

Edit: I did it. Just took me 256 page reloads and 13543 attempts to click the button. Still don't know why it didn't work :D
 
Wow. Lighting network is coming and once is fully applied to the network, transaction speed and fees will be no longer a problem.

Do you own research before you start saying these shiats.

Not sure you understand lightning network.

Those transactions would still need to be put up on the ledger if you want to transact outside your payment channel.
 
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