1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Black Hat Ranking Mobile Apps

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by flashsites, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. flashsites

    flashsites Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    5
    Hi I've been away from Black Hat SEO for years now and everything has changed.

    Now I have a local dating app that I'm trying to rank in the Appstore and PlayStore and over the last 2 years:( big companies have made it impossible using "recommended methods":mad: of app promotion.

    Does anyone have any tips on boosting App store ranking? I've got all the goodies from back in the day (GSA, Scrapebox, etc.);) Not sure if any of those will translate into downloads.:rolleyes:

    -Thx
    FS
     
  2. maling

    maling Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2017
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Female
    Home Page:
    You can buy keyword search installs to boost your app ranking, which can boost your app ranking instantly, highly recommend.
     
  3. Chiefjop

    Chiefjop Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2013
    Messages:
    740
    Likes Received:
    139
    As a blackhat method buying installs is the way to go :)
     
  4. kingdombunniez

    kingdombunniez Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2017
    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    37
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Indie developer
    Location:
    Somewhere in Europe
    @vinku has a great method as well. Just look for his thread.

    But yeah CPI can work.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. sturose

    sturose Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,799
    Likes Received:
    2,207
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Self unemployed
    Location:
    Right behind you!
    Seconded for @vinku

    His ebook is well worth the money if you're looking for blackhat methods.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. vinku

    vinku Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    821
    Likes Received:
    1,427
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Making Money With Android
    Location:
    Poland, Czech, India
    The truth is sad now in Google Play and you have variants:
    -you are using blackhat methods (it's little longer term but multiple accounts, many methods, preparing your blackhat apps base = profit like CPI in few weeks/months and much cheaper)
    -you are looking for luck by mass spam (you can spam but it's like lotto)
    -you are investing in CPI (10k installs on start needed)

    if you was preparing your app for months, made a good product, there is 99% chance that you finish <500 installs ;) You need something more.

    Here is my 1 week 2 apps ;)
    [​IMG]

    first got 800 with CPI, second got 5k in CPI. Now I see the organic traffic for yesterday is
    1200 for smaller and 800 for second.

    But it's not everything, if CPI would be everything, the we would burn money, in these apps are mounted few blackhat methods like:
    -blackhat ASO
    -retention generator
    -category tricks
    -fake widget/fake lwp (in game)
    -ads remote control, also outside app ads
    -and many more

    So yeah, getting organic traffic is possible. Ill check when come back from holidays, should be 20k on each on Sunday
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2017
  7. flashsites

    flashsites Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    5
    Thanks for the detailed reply.

    Could you elaborate on the above? My app has over 10 dls but Im afraid I'm going up against titans. Might need 100k to get anything relevant :(. Also I get my CPIs from Vietnam. Assuming you're doing the same. Do you know if country affects the ranking also?
     
  8. Jiung

    Jiung Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    2,068
    Likes Received:
    1,043
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Living the IM Dream
    Location:
    California
    Is there a reason you're trying to rank for a dating app? There's already massive titans in the game and unless you're willing to fork out tons of money, it'll be close to impossible to compete against them.
     
  9. vinku

    vinku Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    821
    Likes Received:
    1,427
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Making Money With Android
    Location:
    Poland, Czech, India
    I don't have CPI from Vietnam... i am avoiding such providers. Country affects, if you buy from Vietnam, you will rank in Vietnam. If you rank in USA, you will rank everywhere.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  10. flashsites

    flashsites Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    5
    Yes thats true I've spent a ton in PR, display ads, google ads, etc... but I'm in too deep I'm afraid, but we're getting a few dls a day :). I've only in the last 8 months started pushing it via SEO, which has shown the biggest return. CPI has also helped a ton. But now I'm starting to think CPI is the "only" play here.