madoctopus
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- Apr 4, 2010
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@JustUs
As I said I don't think our views are that different just that we have different perspectives and look at things from different levels. I can totally agree with what you're saying, I just think is not the complete, optimal or most accurate view. Mine isn't either. Probably if we'd chat about this for hours would turn out a pretty interesting philosophical discussion.
US doesn't help countries, just prepare the terrain. And if US goes after a country they will have it regardless if the OP had his military training or not. As I said, wars are not won by soldiers. They might be bled by soldiers but not won by them.
Finally, bottom line is, OP is the only person in the world who has a right to decide over what he does. It is irrelevant if you or his government thinks otherwise. The fact the government or anybody can force a person to do something is simply evil. It is slavery. Truly is. It is an enforcement of an idea/doctrine/law through power - that's what slavery is. If you think OP imposing over everybody in his country to surrender at once in the case of a war is a retarded idea, I don't see how you could think somebody else imposing over him is not.
About your statement regarding the universe functioning on the principle of energy theft you are simply wrong. It is not energy theft but equilibrium (energy balancing). It is something entirely different. Yes, it is "theft" in the sense one system takes energy from another but ONLY until they balance each other and reach the same level. One area of low atmospheric pressure and one of high pressure will produce wind. This wind basically gets the systems in balance so the pressure equalizes across both of them. It does not continue until unlit one has all the pressure and the other has none. An underwater explosion will form a bubble that pushes the water in a spherical shape, then when the water pressure is higher the bubble gets collapsed, then grows again, and so on until it collapses and the density law takes over. Water doesn't crush the bubble and the bubble doesn't overtake all the space of the water. I do agree with the fact that an animal/human will go and take from a weaker one his food/resources. Humans however have the ability to solve complex problems and get along. Wars might have happened over resources ages ago but they happened from fear or greed not because it was impossible to reach a common win-win situation. In other words, for some is easier to just steal your food than come and work the field with you. Yes it's real, I agree with that. But that's not what war is anymore. Not even in the Roman Empire era. was it just that. I'm refering to those who bleed in a war. The masses. They don't know wtf they fight for. They're fed propaganda and believe whatever they're fed with. In fact, throughout history, soldiers have suffered from famine, diseases, etc. more than from injuries from fights and certainly more than if they never went to war. A German freezing to death in Siberia I am sure was an unlikely event if WW2 never happened.
As I said I don't think our views are that different just that we have different perspectives and look at things from different levels. I can totally agree with what you're saying, I just think is not the complete, optimal or most accurate view. Mine isn't either. Probably if we'd chat about this for hours would turn out a pretty interesting philosophical discussion.
US doesn't help countries, just prepare the terrain. And if US goes after a country they will have it regardless if the OP had his military training or not. As I said, wars are not won by soldiers. They might be bled by soldiers but not won by them.
Finally, bottom line is, OP is the only person in the world who has a right to decide over what he does. It is irrelevant if you or his government thinks otherwise. The fact the government or anybody can force a person to do something is simply evil. It is slavery. Truly is. It is an enforcement of an idea/doctrine/law through power - that's what slavery is. If you think OP imposing over everybody in his country to surrender at once in the case of a war is a retarded idea, I don't see how you could think somebody else imposing over him is not.
About your statement regarding the universe functioning on the principle of energy theft you are simply wrong. It is not energy theft but equilibrium (energy balancing). It is something entirely different. Yes, it is "theft" in the sense one system takes energy from another but ONLY until they balance each other and reach the same level. One area of low atmospheric pressure and one of high pressure will produce wind. This wind basically gets the systems in balance so the pressure equalizes across both of them. It does not continue until unlit one has all the pressure and the other has none. An underwater explosion will form a bubble that pushes the water in a spherical shape, then when the water pressure is higher the bubble gets collapsed, then grows again, and so on until it collapses and the density law takes over. Water doesn't crush the bubble and the bubble doesn't overtake all the space of the water. I do agree with the fact that an animal/human will go and take from a weaker one his food/resources. Humans however have the ability to solve complex problems and get along. Wars might have happened over resources ages ago but they happened from fear or greed not because it was impossible to reach a common win-win situation. In other words, for some is easier to just steal your food than come and work the field with you. Yes it's real, I agree with that. But that's not what war is anymore. Not even in the Roman Empire era. was it just that. I'm refering to those who bleed in a war. The masses. They don't know wtf they fight for. They're fed propaganda and believe whatever they're fed with. In fact, throughout history, soldiers have suffered from famine, diseases, etc. more than from injuries from fights and certainly more than if they never went to war. A German freezing to death in Siberia I am sure was an unlikely event if WW2 never happened.
