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AMR: Indexing & Stick-Rate Post PANDA Update...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by jascoken, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. jascoken

    jascoken Senior Member

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    Guys


    I use AMR every day, like many of you, for generating a bunch of article links. I normally push 2 articles per day (from 2 separate accounts) and before the new AMR beta changes used to get around 1-1.5k successful submissions each. Now it?s down to around 700 per submission ? as many directories have been removed.


    But... This isn?t the problem: As I think many of those directories weren?t creating any real value anyway.

    The problem is the indexing and stick-rate since the PANDA update.


    I seed every article with a unique name string for tracking purposes. (I have a spin string which has 1.9 Billion permutations.) I wait for 7 days and ScrapeBox that name string in ?quotes?, and then do it again after 30 days and 90 days to check stick-rate (and also use them as link wheel spokes to run dripable/drip feed blasts to.) I HIGHLY spin all the content and always get good indexing rates because I basically 100% spin everything.


    Pre PANDA, I got around 200-500 articles fully indexed each time (over 30 days), with the majority of them sticking after 90 days.


    Post PANDA, a check of a selection of my old articles shows that this has dropped to an average of 50-80 each, and this is what is showing on all submissions I?m doing now.


    In other words, PANDA has made a huge impact on the effectiveness of AMR for me. We all know that PANDA hit article directories etc; but I hadn?t expected such a knock-back on the stats.


    I?m looking for some feedback... Does anyone else track and have similar or conflicting data?
     
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    jascoken Senior Member

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    I received one PM.

    Has anyone else got any stats/feedback on how using AMR has changed since PANDA?
     
  3. shoaibahmad9999

    shoaibahmad9999 Power Member

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    I also figured out that I have submitted 2 articles to 700-800 directories and my website still have 40 backlinks.
    My article was highly spun --- sentence level spun and title was also highly spun making around 29 unique titles.
    I think that AMR is becoming useless now :(
     
  4. teamred

    teamred Newbie

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    Pre - Panda I could submit to AMR and see a 20% spike in traffic for a couple of days and now - nothing at all. I have quit using AMR.
     
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    shoaibahmad9999 Power Member

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    Same here I have also quit using AMR.
     
  6. jascoken

    jascoken Senior Member

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    Interesting feedback. I've certainly started to question the use of AMR now.

    Has anyone noticed whether building backlinks to the articles makes them more resilient and likely to stay in G's index? i.e. back-feeding Dripable/DFB/X-Rumer etc and using the indexed articles as buffer pages?
     
  7. gr8divas

    gr8divas Registered Member

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    Good if you people stop using AMR it will become effective for people like us...

    Problem is too many people are now using AMR, specially amr blast for 5$ at Fiverr make it ineffective
     
  8. secretboy08

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    panda is a content filter.(think of it like cl content filters when we input the ad)
    it checks the content when it crawls first and takes into account all parameters(like spin and all).
    These stringent filter checks determine whether the content is worthy of indexing or not.
    and the effect of just crawled links(not indexed) just crawled links has reduced by some extent.
    post panda you have to force your backlinks down the search engine's throat.
    and we all know a software to force our backlinks into numerous sites where the bot goes to(hint hint:it costs $57.lol)


    this is my from experience.someone else may find it naive or bullshit.
     
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  9. Flurbuff

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    I have a very flexible article system set up for myself. I wish I knew how to code programs so it would be easier and faster. Actually, I guess I could sell it at that point and make a ton of money. Anyways, my articles are 98% spun or higher and the format and mixture changes quite a bit with each submission. Most of the articles that get posted by the article site still get indexed.

    Naturally, only 10% or so of the successful submissions are indexed without help from me within a week. I give them a helping hand so it's way over 50% in the first week or two. They seem to be sticking just fine as long as you can avoid duplicates enough.

    so in other words:

    1. spin all of your content to death and mix up the format

    2. help your links; don't fire and forget
     
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  10. jb2008

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    I have the same experience.
     
  11. seoguy12

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    Me too.
     
  12. ordinaryppl

    ordinaryppl Newbie

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    Can give me a review of AMR?
     
  13. cloakndagger

    cloakndagger Power Member

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    There are literally hundreds here,use the search button.
     
  14. draco-long

    draco-long Newbie

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    have not yet tried the AMR since i bought it a couple of weeks ago, will try it to see if it still rocks or not
     
  15. thecashbag

    thecashbag Newbie

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    Really?? I was about to buy it, but now thinking twice.

    I was after something that was not a subscription, could drip feed my articles, and be run on my server completely automatically after I set it all up. Thought AMR was my solution. Any other questions?
     
  16. jascoken

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    It still does the job - and VERY well; there was just a new learning curve to go through after the Panda updates.

    I wasn't knocking AMR - I use it VERY aggressively, and know many others that do to. It now just requires a multi-tiered linking strategy underneath it to help the articles get crawled and stay indexed.

    Buy it - you won't regret it.
     
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    When is the pricing structure going to change for AMR? I'm holding out on buying it until it changes.
     
  18. blindboy

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    Would you be willing to share what you do that works?
     
  19. citylightz

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    I have read several posts here on BHW from people stongly advising against SB or profile links to help get article indexed post-panda. They advised using bookmarks instead. Has this been your experience too?
     
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  20. sbw27

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    I agree with what most have said here....post panda, it's much harder to get links in general indexed. AMR is no different. It is however a great tool for doing what it's meant to...publish crap loads of articles to article directories. It's your job to get the links indexed...why the OP feels the need to have a text string to see if links get indexed is beyond me...a simple "live links" report in AMR, and scrapebox to check if those are indexed works fine for me.

    I am using VemonSEO Pro bookmarking submissions over the last few weeks with pretty good success for indexing, and passing more juice through my article links. I also use lindexed.com to help get links indexed....you can get it cheap in the service section of this forum.

    Using Scrapebox AA comments, and profile links is also worth it, will help indexing, and passing more juice.

    The way I see it, I only want article links, and web 2.0 links at the first level linking to my money site, and spammy comments, profile links, and bookmarks at level 2....ensuring that my level 1 links have plenty of backlinks, juice, and a good indexing rate.

    This theory is working well for me...I guess the quality of content you submit also helps....quality spun articles :)
     
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