Amateur in SEO, Working on a Gambling Site, HELP

Do you think i could make it?


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Hello Black Hat World, i'm really a newbie in SEO, really from a scale of 1 - 10
Maybe i rate myself 1.5, my knowledge about SEO is only Basic
What would you suggest i do to generate traffic to my Money Website?
This website is about sportsbook Gambling,

Here is my background, Graduated from IT School
Mostly basic javascript and code
Currently Learning Internet Marketing and SEO
Doing Instagram Influencer Ads / Not Generating enough Traffic to websites
Planning on Purchasing an Ahref account / abusing actually using the 7$ free trial a week
Planning to improve myself day by day, i will absorb everything you say, as i am clueless
I Handle Currently the SEO and MARKETING myself, so, any lead is appreciated

I only know some of these terms in SEO :
Backlinks
Keyword
PBNs
On Page Optimization
Ahref Tools
Competition
Traffic
Fiverr Gigs

And here is the situation with gambling sites per 2018 :
1. In our country your website will be taken down fast 1 year is lucky enough for you to stay in google rank, it's not google penguin or penalty that take you down, it's the country safe internet browsing system that will take your sites out, so users will not be able to access the website anymore, unless the use VPNS

2. I used to Work in another Company, and i saw that the SEO people doing fiverr gigs all the time, and buying PBN links, it ranked so fast in a matter of weeks ( it doesn't matter that your sites will go down in a couple of months anyway )

3. They all cheat and use Black Hat Techniques, and they just buy their way to rank higher

I would gladly DM you my site and my competitor site if you would like to see the competition if you find this thread intriguing, maybe some of you would like to see how it works in a gambling site?

Thank you, any help would be appreciated, i will be online everyday as i worked in front of the computer almost 12 - 14 hrs a day, any update will be gladly replied
 

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Why don't you make a gambling related website and promote gambling to countries where the gambling laws are not strict.

For example make a website and hist it in the UK, targeting UK players.
 

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The first step towards success is admitting that you are a novice on the SEO arena.

SEO is just like Kungfo, if you don't know it, you can only learn it and from a kungfo master too.

The first thing i see is the niche you are trying to overrun. There are two things involved here, it's either you hire a professional or forget about SEO for traffic for now.

Secondly, if you want to hire anyone for SEO you have to be damn sure he is good. I have seen people spend hundreds of dollars and more on SEO and didn't get the result because they were stuck with the wrong people who claim to be expert.

SEO is a long term affair and it's going to cost you thousands of dollars. Even if not at a go but over few months you will spend that much and it has to be on some one who is good at it.

There are other traffic methods you may want to opt for particularly since SEO is long term affair and I highly recommend it too if you really want to make money off your niche.

Another thing is, ensure you test you niche/site and see if it converts. I have seen people spend so much and when they eventually ranked and getting the SE traffic the site wasn't making any money. You need a developer in hand to help you tweak the website and an experience person to guide you on what to do too.

Then my last advice, i wouldn't use fiverr for SEO. I won't touch that with a ten foot pole, you are only going to ruin your site.

Good luck.
 
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Why don't you make a gambling related website and promote gambling to countries where the gambling laws are not strict.
For example make a website and hist it in the UK, targeting UK players.

Because the money deposited in Bank Account for our country sir, and the players are from my country, so creating a website in another country is not possible, because our player is from this certain country....
 

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Amateur in SEO, Working on a Gambling Site.

That's like saying I just got my driver's license and I want to race in the Daytona 500.

Crawl, walk, run.


 
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The first step towards success is admitting that you are a novice on the SEO arena.

SEO is just like Kungfo, if you don't know it, you can only learn it and from a kungfo master too.

The first thing i see is the niche you are trying to overrun. There are two things involved here, it's either you hire a professional or forget about SEO for traffic for now.

Secondly, if you want to hire anyone for SEO you have to damn sure he is good. I have seen people spend hundreds of dollars and more on SEO and didn't get the result because they were stuck with the wrong people who claim to be expert.

SEO is a long term affair and it's going to cost you thousands of dollars. Even if not at a go but over few months you will spend that much and it has to be on some one who is good at it.

There are other traffic methods you may want to opt for that particularly since SEO is long term and I highly recommend it too if you really want to make money off your niche.

Another thing is, ensure you test you niche/site and see if it converts. I have seen people spend so much and when they eventually ranked and getting the SE traffic the site wasn't making any money. You need a developer in hand to help you tweak the website and an experience person to guide you on what to do too.

Then my last advice, i wouldn't use fiverr for SEO. I won't touch that with a ten foot pole, you are only going to ruin your site.

Good luck.

Thank you sir for the input, regarding hiring the SEO expert, all the people doing gambling are SEO expert and they make big, big bucks, say
its around 40-50k a month, not joking and not exagerating, so i think they already make their own website

Long term affair - i know the process will be long, tough and hard, and i do not expect result will come overnight, i know the result will come at least in a year, and i am willing to prepare for that time.

Money issue - our website has been running for 5 years now, it still has some loyal members to it, so the website still generate income, but i want to gain traffic for this website, and we can spend some budget for advertising and paying influencer in social media, so we still get new members, but not as much as the big fish does,
in comparison
my website only generate 900 ish traffic a month
a steady stable website generate around 16k - 20k traffic a month
the big fish, or top ranking website in my niche generate around 250k traffic a month
that is a significant gap to consider..

that is why i am willing so humbly to learn from the "kungfo" master here...

thank you for the input - sincerely
 
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Amateur in SEO, Working on a Gambling Site.

That's like saying I just got my driver's license and I want to race in the Daytona 500.

Crawl, walk, run.


Yes sir, i know that so well.. this is a tough one

that is why im willing to crawl and then walk and then run,
i have been doing my homework for these past few month, but i still feel like my knowledge is limited, what do you suggest?
 

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Okay sir, what would you suggest for an amateur?

Read, learn, test seo and then repeat and repeat again until you're no longer an amateur. Otherwise invest heavily and hire a professional to do the seo for you.
 
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Read, learn, test seo and then repeat and repeat again until you're no longer an amateur. Otherwise invest heavily and hire a professional to do the seo for you.

will do sir, i have read a lot and learn a lot but has yet to test seo, will update the progress of the web weekly here..
will apply some of the knowledge i gained here and i'll see what happens

thanks for the input.
 

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Get yourself some experience with low competition keywords/niches first. Get into the game slowly. Try, fail, try, test, fail, try, rank, bank and get yourself a good knowledge over time. If you are beginner and start out with gambling you will give up after a few months and never do SEO again. The gambling niche is difficult and full of people which got a shitload of money and some experts which really know what they are doing. For a beginner it will be extremely hard to get a piece of the cake.
 

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What country is it you are targeting? Sounds weird that you expect the site to be blocked after one year. Can't get my head around this one, maybe i am missing something

As others say then it's a tough industry and you really have to think outside the box and be willing to learn and invest, and create quality content. Do not give up if you don't get anywhere the first 6 months.
If you want to promote some of the bigger companies then read up on compliance as well, the time is over where all sportsbook or casinos accepts all type of traffic, as they have the regulators on their ass.
 

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Thank you sir for the input, regarding hiring the SEO expert, all the people doing gambling are SEO expert and they make big, big bucks, say
its around 40-50k a month, not joking and not exagerating, so i think they already make their own website

Well, am pretty much familiar with the gambling thing and know it's a billion dollar industry.
I don't need to be told the worth by anyone.

Long term affair - i know the process will be long, tough and hard, and i do not expect result will come overnight, i know the result will come at least in a year, and i am willing to prepare for that time.

That's a good mindset.

Money issue - our website has been running for 5 years now, it still has some loyal members to it, so the website still generate income, but i want to gain traffic for this website, and we can spend some budget for advertising and paying influencer in social media, so we still get new members, but not as much as the big fish does,
in comparison
my website only generate 900 ish traffic a month
a steady stable website generate around 16k - 20k traffic a month
the big fish, or top ranking website in my niche generate around 250k traffic a month
that is a significant gap to consider..

900 traffic per month is quite small but if the traffic is targeted you may pick a few sales from it.

that is why i am willing so humbly to learn from the "kungfo" master here...

thank you for the input - sincerely

I just started a couple of new huge projects along with my graphic design sites
and really focusing on it and quite time consuming. However, let me know how i can
help and i will be ready to point you to the directions.
 

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your need to be a master in seo to do such kw.

I am not saying it hard just saying your need to be a good seo player to get on page 1.

the comp is massive and your need a good 5k or more buget , you will not be able to get in any kw without money your need paid backlinks and fantastic articles , images , video.

good luck.

I would use longtail kw and try first. not waste to much cash on it.
 

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My 2 Cents...

(I got the jist of, your doing something you can't do but your doing it anyway and yes it is really logical to just create gambling sites and advertise to European counties it is very legal there I have no idea why you are trying to do it in UK where you aren't allowed to do it but, hey, that's where the market is right?)

Laundry List for doing wrong stuff right in Europe...

1) For starters you want to host out of Ukraine. (Google Translate the websites and communications... or have a girlfriend that speaks the language)

2) Get a VERY GOOD domain registrar, from Germany. (the name evades me sorry... do your research)

3) You'll need VPN's with endpoints that come out of different countries. -> This is a REVENUE OPPORTUNITY <-

3) Be prepared to hotswap your webservers. It's easy; just have backups and move them over. You good domain registrar will force out the DNS record updates if you ask nicely (when 24 hours is $240 you will care about the 2days it takes for DNS to propogate)

4) Have your disaster recovery plan for when your main domain gets blown -> you gotta move the WHOLE kaboodle. Your good domain registrar will give you 1 maybe 2 weeks heads up to allow you to force out all the 301 redirects.
(sure google might blow it, but it's those pesky ACRONYM guys. know your enemy)

This should include a secondary site it's ready to move to and essentially 'keep on going'

5) Setup 'drone' sites that you pass traffic through from time to time. These can be $1 domains that are just literally a file that redirects traffic but registers it and of course adds affiliate links.

Amateur in SEO, Working on a Gambling Site.

That's like saying I just got my driver's license and I want to race in the Daytona 500.

Crawl, walk, run.

Yes sir, i know that so well.. this is a tough one

that is why im willing to crawl and then walk and then run,
i have been doing my homework for these past few month, but i still feel like my knowledge is limited, what do you suggest?

Basstracker is right. If you want to learn SEO, Gambling niche is hard to do it in because of its competitiveness. But, I would still recommend you move forward with it if you are passionate and take on an approach of 'I'm learning how to make money online'

Gambling is AWESOME for money. Signing up users through your affiliate links and getting lifetime commissions on a % of what they play adds up. Avoid big upfront payouts and get a deal with lifetime %'s. Build your customer list.

Learn how to do SEO 'creatively'.. i.e.

  • building backlinks is browsing your competitors sites... learn about affiliate codes, cookies, php scripts, and how these work in browsers.
  • market research is an opportunity to make direct referrals... i highly recommend getting onto some decent/frequented forums where you can post an image or html code in your signature... build up a legit account (or 3)
  • figure out which competitors are (a) spammy/auto-created coupon sites (b) players/enthusiasts with large hobby sites (c) big companies that own the referrals...
Most of all, remember that with any affiliate style monetization scheme, usually its the cookie/referal link that the person has/uses most recently when they signup/deposit. So instead of focussing on 'how do I refer people' have a think about drilling into 'how can I can them to use my affiliate code/cookie/referal link the very moments before the decide to signup/make their next deposit.

If half ALL OF that sounds confusing... seriously...

I suggest you start with an easy niche to rank in, learn SEO and then move to harder niches.

Get a site ranking for 'underwater basket weaving with scuba gear using nylon while wearing pyjamas' and go from there.
 

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iGaming affiliation expert here. All the top dogs are running PBNs beyond your comprehension. I'm talking about quad-layered networks of over 3,000 domains. The industry is fairly small as in the bigger dogs acquire the smaller ones for a couple of mil and hold dozens of in-house writers and backlink prospectors in-house.
 

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iGaming affiliation expert here. All the top dogs are running PBNs beyond your comprehension. I'm talking about quad-layered networks of over 3,000 domains. The industry is fairly small as in the bigger dogs acquire the smaller ones for a couple of mil and hold dozens of in-house writers and backlink prospectors in-house.

ME: Frothing at mouth, salivating in utter glutenous desire...

Them: :smirk::smirk::smirk: "quad layered networks of over 3000 domains" :smirk::smirk::smirk:

THEM!!!: :devil::devil::devil: "That's what we call our inner-pbn-network... it represents a solid 5% of our implementations... now would you like a tour of our dodeca-hexa-octa-1million-wafer-layered-network-intra-cyberntic-neural-network-domain-forrest that sits behind it? :devil::devil::devil:
 
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