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It look like you had lost hope in IM. So, you wanted to get locked into corporate 9-5 job to fulfill someone's dream?

In IM, you need to create the path to work for yourself. No one will spoon feed like corporate training.

IM needs skill for survival. I cannot give up my freedom. If you like to be a salaried employee, it's your wish and your situation.

9-5 job is not for everyone.
IM is not for everyone.
 

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It look like you had lost hope in IM. So, you wanted to get locked into corporate 9-5 job to fulfill someone's dream?

In IM, you need to create the path to work for yourself. No one will spoon feed like corporate training.

IM needs skill for survival. I cannot give up my freedom. If you like to be a salaried employee, it's your wish and your situation.

9-5 job is not for everyone.
IM is not for everyone.

let's be honest, why some marketers work for big firms as they have so much skill that they could start a business of their own?

Because the amount of time taken to create a business is very big and if you are paid 100k a year in a great time, where you improve yourself and you enjoy it, I know 90% of the people here would work in an agency "the dream of someone else" because work conditions are great and they can do what they love.

I see people here shit on 9-5 as if all jobs are awful but it's not the case. Low paid jobs with low work conditions are awful, but not all jobs.

Most of the people I know who work in an office quite enjoy their job, even if it's not the most amazing thing to do.

nothing bad in having a normal life and normal job.

The other I actually was jealous a little bit of @xReminisce, working as a data analyst should be very very interesting and I am sure she enjoys what she is doing a lot.

If I could came back in time, I would have spend time maybe pursuing this career.

9-5 are not always shit, it's only what I say, think strategically and target your jobs the same as you target your customers, if you have the possibility to do so :D
 

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I told my boss 9 to 5 job > IM

he understood nothing

and told me that my work time is now 9 to 6

fk i forgot....that

silence is golden
 

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let's be honest, why some marketers work for big firms as they have so much skill that they could start a business of their own?

Because the amount of time taken to create a business is very big and if you are paid 100k a year in a great time, where you improve yourself and you enjoy it, I know 90% of the people here would work in an agency "the dream of someone else" because work conditions are great and they can do what they love.

I see people here shit on 9-5 as if all jobs are awful but it's not the case. Low paid jobs with low work conditions are awful, but not all jobs.

Most of the people I know who work in an office quite enjoy their job, even if it's not the most amazing thing to do.

nothing bad in having a normal life and normal job.

The other I actually was jealous a little bit of @xReminisce, working as a data analyst should be very very interesting and I am sure she enjoys what she is doing a lot.

If I could came back in time, I would have spend time maybe pursuing this career.

9-5 are not always shit, it's only what I say, think strategically and target your jobs the same as you target your customers, if you have the possibility to do so :D
I was an ex-software employee. I loved the job. After few years, I can feel that I'm missing myself and the amount of pressure was increased. It ends in chronic depression.

I do agree with your point that there are 9-5 jobs that are not bad at all. For me, it just didn't work.
 

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I was an ex-software employee. I loved the job. After few years, I can feel that I'm missing myself and the amount of pressure was increased. It ends in chronic depression.

I do agree with your point that there are 9-5 jobs that are not bad at all. For me, it just didn't work.

I know many software employee and it's 50/50 from what I heard, maybe you can confirm... some places can kill your soul and other focus on a team management and collaboration that is lowering pressure a maximum to avoid workers to do mistakes, which are very costly at the end.
 

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9-5 are not always shit, it's only what I say, think strategically and target your jobs the same as you target your customers, if you have the possibility to do so :D
Right on,
Not all jobs are horrible, and it also depends on you as a person, if you factor in the job itself, the conditions, the pay, the work, your surroundings, your coworkers, your team, your supervisor.
All that will impact whether you feel comfortable or not.

I really do enjoy my job, even though I do bitch about it here and there, but we all have bad days, if I really hated it, with my resume and experience, I am quite confident I can find another office job without much issues.
One of my friend has worked for the same hotel company for the past 25 years, and she is still there.
She loves it there, and she is quite comfortable. So that already says alot, if the company treats their employees right, they have no real reason to leave either.

Honestly, hating on 9-5 jobs because you had 1 or more shitty experience is basically is the same concept as hating on a entire race because you dislike 1 or a few people.
Hate who you worked for, not the entire genre.
 
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Right on,
Not all jobs are horrible, and it also depends on you as a person, if you factor in the job itself, the conditions, the pay, the work, your surroundings, your coworkers, your team, your supervisor.
All that will impact whether you feel comfortable or not.

I really do enjoy my job, even though I do bitch about it here and there, but we all have bad days, if I really hated it, with my resume and experience, I am quite confident I can find another office job without much issues.
One of my friend has worked for the same hotel company for the past 25 years, and she is still there.
She loves it there, and she is quite comfortable. So that already says alot, if the company treats their employees right, they have no real reason to leave either.

Honestly, hating on 9-5 jobs because you had 1 or more shitty experience is basically is the same concept as hating on a entire race because you dislike 1 or a few people.
Hate who you worked for, not the entire genre.

wise words coming from a great person :)
 

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the 9-5 vs IM "discussion" has been done to death. can't we all just agree that both can be good and both can be shitty and never discuss it again? OP, if you were drunk, post something funnier. like a video of you dancing drunk or something.
 

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I'm not even sure why this debate goes on. It really depends on what you are capable of and how much you are able to risk. One is not better than the other, it's just about personal preferences.
 

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Go for it buddy, less competition for the rest of us :p
 

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Having a normal 9 to 5 job and career gives you more money than internet marketing. We would be all better off in a traditional corporate career but if only we were positive about working a real job. Instead most of us dream about bullshit internet monies. Let’s face it in order to make it in seo it would take you like 5-10 years just to make like $2,000 per month and it can be suddenly gone with any random google update. We have no moat against because g corporations that can hire talented writers and buy powerful backlinks. Seo is saturated and paid traffic even more. The time and money invested in seo or paid traffic would be better spent on a college education and a good masters degree. The corporate world gives you better salary, incentives, health insurance and job security. If you earn $60,000 per year and work a couple of years, you are guaranteed a higher salary afterwards. In affiliate marketing you work your ass off for little money and then it gets taken away with a google update. So you start from zero again. Paid traffic with Facebook, Google, Pop Traffic or others is saturated as fuck. Most successful internet marketers have given up on paid traffic so we noobies have no chance. Even an offline business like consulting gives more money and peace of mind.
You are NOT terribly wrong. Kind of agreed, but it does depend on the job itself (and you can combine both to earn even more haha). ;)
 

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Having a normal 9 to 5 job and career gives you more money than internet marketing. We would be all better off in a traditional corporate career but if only we were positive about working a real job. Instead most of us dream about bullshit internet monies. Let’s face it in order to make it in seo it would take you like 5-10 years just to make like $2,000 per month and it can be suddenly gone with any random google update. We have no moat against because g corporations that can hire talented writers and buy powerful backlinks. Seo is saturated and paid traffic even more. The time and money invested in seo or paid traffic would be better spent on a college education and a good masters degree. The corporate world gives you better salary, incentives, health insurance and job security. If you earn $60,000 per year and work a couple of years, you are guaranteed a higher salary afterwards. In affiliate marketing you work your ass off for little money and then it gets taken away with a google update. So you start from zero again. Paid traffic with Facebook, Google, Pop Traffic or others is saturated as fuck. Most successful internet marketers have given up on paid traffic so we noobies have no chance. Even an offline business like consulting gives more money and peace of mind.
Fact! You all do that! Now! :D
 

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No no no. Stop this BS fiesta here.
Do you realize how little people actually manage to get over the $1.5k and how much they've really given to get the $1.5k?
In my country being a manager is like 5% of people and being a c-level is like 0.1% of people. And you need that position to get over the $2k mark.
So you know. Chances are you will become a millionaire on your own faster than get to that position.
And then you can get fired from that position.

Whoever is talking about job security is just driven by nonsense. This is some deep insecurity and lack of a backup plan.
What do you do when you lose a job? Search for another? That's not secure unless you get paid $10k per month and save 80%.
 

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I have a lot more respect for someone that chases their dream and fails and gets back up again,

Compared to someone that settles for being average.
 

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It all depends on where you live, and the type of work you do.

Where I am from 1k is good money, but guess what, only a low % of the population reaches that level (professionals) and 2k I don't even count, however in IM it is very feasible to achieve it in a short time and scale it to more. You say you are from Peru (or live there), which means you are Latin American and as such, you must know how difficult it is to reach that level in a 9 to 5 job.

I repeat, everything will depend on certain conditions. There are very good 9 to 5 jobs, but not everyone can get them.

Note: not everyone can be CEO of a company, there are many professionals who will never leave their corner.
 
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