Why are you still running only one website when every update hits clean sites (aka White hat) too?

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Had few beers tonight :D, we are celebrating a small win in the office so i am little bit tipsy lol. Pardon my english anyway, i am not a native speaker, so tipsy or not some lines will read funny.. you will get the point.

Go to the white hat section right now and count the threads. "clean backlink profile but still dropped in core update", "crawled not indexed", "are backlinks still worth it". Same threads every update since years, only the usernames change. People cleaning their profile, disavowing, paying native writers, and still dropped. Spam update comes, core update comes, some clean sites go down and some dirty sites go up. Nobody can explain it properly, including Google lol.

This is the main reason i stopped believing in "high quality backlink strategy" as a protection. White hat, black hat, grey hat, whatever practices you follow you are going to get hit one day. I compare it with aging.. you can take anti aging stuff, eat clean, be careful, in the end it depends on the luck and the niche you are in. Some niches google forgive everything, some niches even perfect site get killed. I tested this myself, hired native writers, built clean backlinks profile by hand for one project, some ranked, and it still went down in an update same as my automated sites /link automation. In Google eyes clean or dirty profile dont exist, only what works in that niche this year.

Little background. Started with senuke and magic submitter in 2000s era, then xrumer, scrapebox, now GSA SER, ranker x, money robot with my own scripts (little phython background and now AI). Heavily depend on automation since the beginning and every update people around me panicking and quitting.. i am still here.

So my only suggestion, do not stick to a single project. When i work on a niche i build minimum 3 properties at the same time. Same niche, different domains, different content angle, different link approach. One gets hit, other two carry the income, and the one that got hit usually comes back after next update anyway. With one website you are gambling no matter which hat you wear.

How is this possible for a one man? Because in 2026 everything is automated. Content for the sites comes from AI, nobody can tell the difference if you give proper prompts and a human read. Links come from tools, tiered link building is still working, I build tiers to my buffer sites and leave money site alone (except some old sites where i send filtered links direct). No indexer needed when tier 2 is running. Cost for tier 2 whole month is less than one guest post.

Many times tiered links to a buffer gave me better movement than guest posts i paid $99-300$ for. Paying for a single "high DA" backlink is sometimes complete waste of money, page is not even indexed and nobody will crawl it. Sometimes guest post works great too, depends on the page. For me tiered building wins more often than it loses and it scales to 3 or 5 or 10 sites, guest post budget does not scale.

Set up properly, filter your list hard, decent content, and spread the risk over few sites instead of praying for one.

Anyway thats my 2 cents after too many updates and few beers. There is no white hat or black hat in the end, only the niche and the luck, so automate whatever you are doing and dont put everything on one site. Curious how many sites you guys run per niche.. ok beer number 4 is calling.
 
In most cases, they are not being hit for backlinks at all.

Backlinks are just the first go to in people's minds as a bad guy. Always has been.
Because they know they paid for them.
 
Well said even you are tipsy you spilled the truth. This is what I always belive. No matter what we have to experiment with at least few at a month. I got some Ai blogs and most of them are fine even improve. Yes link wheels are super easy to automate we on same boat cheers mate
 
100 percent spot on.

As a habit I buy least 2 expired domains per month and least 5 fresh domains. Nowadays building a website and managing backlinks profile is a foolproof
 
Had few beers tonight :D, we are celebrating a small win in the office so i am little bit tipsy lol. Pardon my english anyway, i am not a native speaker, so tipsy or not some lines will read funny.. you will get the point.

Go to the white hat section right now and count the threads. "clean backlink profile but still dropped in core update", "crawled not indexed", "are backlinks still worth it". Same threads every update since years, only the usernames change. People cleaning their profile, disavowing, paying native writers, and still dropped. Spam update comes, core update comes, some clean sites go down and some dirty sites go up. Nobody can explain it properly, including Google lol.

This is the main reason i stopped believing in "high quality backlink strategy" as a protection. White hat, black hat, grey hat, whatever practices you follow you are going to get hit one day. I compare it with aging.. you can take anti aging stuff, eat clean, be careful, in the end it depends on the luck and the niche you are in. Some niches google forgive everything, some niches even perfect site get killed. I tested this myself, hired native writers, built clean backlinks profile by hand for one project, some ranked, and it still went down in an update same as my automated sites /link automation. In Google eyes clean or dirty profile dont exist, only what works in that niche this year.

Little background. Started with senuke and magic submitter in 2000s era, then xrumer, scrapebox, now GSA SER, ranker x, money robot with my own scripts (little phython background and now AI). Heavily depend on automation since the beginning and every update people around me panicking and quitting.. i am still here.

So my only suggestion, do not stick to a single project. When i work on a niche i build minimum 3 properties at the same time. Same niche, different domains, different content angle, different link approach. One gets hit, other two carry the income, and the one that got hit usually comes back after next update anyway. With one website you are gambling no matter which hat you wear.

How is this possible for a one man? Because in 2026 everything is automated. Content for the sites comes from AI, nobody can tell the difference if you give proper prompts and a human read. Links come from tools, tiered link building is still working, I build tiers to my buffer sites and leave money site alone (except some old sites where i send filtered links direct). No indexer needed when tier 2 is running. Cost for tier 2 whole month is less than one guest post.

Many times tiered links to a buffer gave me better movement than guest posts i paid $99-300$ for. Paying for a single "high DA" backlink is sometimes complete waste of money, page is not even indexed and nobody will crawl it. Sometimes guest post works great too, depends on the page. For me tiered building wins more often than it loses and it scales to 3 or 5 or 10 sites, guest post budget does not scale.

Set up properly, filter your list hard, decent content, and spread the risk over few sites instead of praying for one.

Anyway thats my 2 cents after too many updates and few beers. There is no white hat or black hat in the end, only the niche and the luck, so automate whatever you are doing and dont put everything on one site. Curious how many sites you guys run per niche.. ok beer number 4 is calling.
while i m in agreement with the concept of spreading risk, however, running 5 websites will be of little use if they are all dependent on the same source of traffic. i would diversiffy the topic as well as the means of making money rather than just focusing on the number of sites.
 
I agree that relying on one website is risky. Diversifying across projects can help reduce that risk, but I would still focus on quality content, relevant links, and tracking each site’s performance rather than relying entirely on automation or luck.
 
while i m in agreement with the concept of spreading risk, however, running 5 websites will be of little use if they are all dependent on the same source of traffic. i would diversiffy the topic as well as the means of making money rather than just focusing on the number of sites.
i guess the OP was trying to say the quality vs quantity overall... and i also agree with what you said even on the market still we need diversity i guess that's what op meant as well...

I agree that relying on one website is risky. Diversifying across projects can help reduce that risk, but I would still focus on quality content, relevant links, and tracking each site’s performance rather than relying entirely on automation or luck.

it all depends. for the last 10 years, i have never spent money on fancy SEO services or outsourcing, and i'm not a native writer so i used to scrape and rewrite. now i totally depend on AI, and the best part is AI is almost free. i guess we need value more than quality, and surely we need quantity nowadays. my wife runs a few local websites very clean with all the links coming from real users locally, and with this update she hit some while mine got hit too. even so, i still get other search engine traffic, plus the biggest advantage is we have backups.

@MutantAlex i am pretty sure you are on a massive hangover today lol :poop:;)
 
Spreading risk over three sites only works if the three are really independent. If they share a hosting range, link tools and source lists, the same analytics or GSC account, or the same content template, one update can take them down together and you have just tripled the cost. Same for a tier 2 that feeds every buffer from one list, because that list becomes the footprint. Separate those first, the number of sites matters less.
 
100 percent spot on.

As a habit I buy least 2 expired domains per month and least 5 fresh domains. Nowadays building a website and managing backlinks profile is a foolproof

2 expireds a month is a solid pace, curious how you filter them. I check the archive for topic changes first and only then look at links and metrics, otherwise it's way too easy to buy a pretty DR on a domain that spent a couple years as a casino doorway
 
Spreading risk over three sites only works if the three are really independent. If they share a hosting range, link tools and source lists, the same analytics or GSC account, or the same content template, one update can take them down together and you have just tripled the cost. Same for a tier 2 that feeds every buffer from one list, because that list becomes the footprint. Separate those first, the number of sites matters less.

I partially agreed.

I own a blog network, no, I don't sell any services. Those are just money sites, and each site isn't connected; at least 80% of them are separate. However, as tier 2, I use the same site lists and same GSA projects, including the campaign dataset, as long as the niche is similar. If you check subdomains from big pools like Money Robot or Autopilot, they still rank (not just index) after millions upon millions of spam. I rarely use Money Robot now because almost all my projects used them, and since they don't add new targets often, I barely use it. But I still blast tier 2 with GSA links almost every day, and a few of them rank on SERPs. You can check yourself by getting those large PBNs like MR or SEO Autopilot built PBNs using reverse engineering (Ahrefs, DataForSEO, whatever).

I'm also using GSA for tier 1, and even here it's called spam, and they've been surviving for the last 4-5 years through every rollout. So I agree with the first post here. Building a handful of websites instead of depending on one or two properties is actually killing your potential.

I know people here who build unique, completely free footprints (I'd say almost) and still got tanked, while mostly Chinese and Russian users are rocking it.

If you're really worried about footprints, don't overkill the process with domain registrars (of course it's good; I work with 3 registrars), but more importantly, those aren't the killers. The number one footprint is using Google Analytics, Search Console, and their other stuff. You know how hard it is to register on a second email from a device even after formatting, so using them for a website, no point in talking about that. If you stay off on google then you will save hell of footprints..

Also in other hand linking backlinks from same reffering domains for related websites is a common practice and natural so thats not the whole point of footprints
 
I partially agreed.

I own a blog network, no, I don't sell any services. Those are just money sites, and each site isn't connected; at least 80% of them are separate. However, as tier 2, I use the same site lists and same GSA projects, including the campaign dataset, as long as the niche is similar. If you check subdomains from big pools like Money Robot or Autopilot, they still rank (not just index) after millions upon millions of spam. I rarely use Money Robot now because almost all my projects used them, and since they don't add new targets often, I barely use it. But I still blast tier 2 with GSA links almost every day, and a few of them rank on SERPs. You can check yourself by getting those large PBNs like MR or SEO Autopilot built PBNs using reverse engineering (Ahrefs, DataForSEO, whatever).

I'm also using GSA for tier 1, and even here it's called spam, and they've been surviving for the last 4-5 years through every rollout. So I agree with the first post here. Building a handful of websites instead of depending on one or two properties is actually killing your potential.

I know people here who build unique, completely free footprints (I'd say almost) and still got tanked, while mostly Chinese and Russian users are rocking it.

If you're really worried about footprints, don't overkill the process with domain registrars (of course it's good; I work with 3 registrars), but more importantly, those aren't the killers. The number one footprint is using Google Analytics, Search Console, and their other stuff. You know how hard it is to register on a second email from a device even after formatting, so using them for a website, no point in talking about that. If you stay off on google then you will save hell of footprints..

Also in other hand linking backlinks from same reffering domains for related websites is a common practice and natural so thats not the whole point of footprints

Exactly this is the reason i stay off from G console instead use free ahrefs webmaster without login via G
 
@zanatix fair point on the traffic source, i also have sites in other niches and few that earn from other than google. But even same niche 3 domains is already a spread for me, google hit one domain not the niche, i see it every update. Different topics is the next level, do it when the first 3 run by themself. Thanks for the replies guys, sober now lol :D
 
3 sites per niche is easy now on the content side, thats the part that used to stop me. same pipeline, 3 domains, each one gets a diferent angle in the prompt so they dont read as copies. i run a bigger test than that with door pages but that only works in specific niches. the main site gets 3 posts a week max, the rest of the output goes on the support sites. anwway dont forget links on all 3, you can automate that part nowdays
 
agree with the idea but i go slower than most here. 2 sites, same niche, 100 to 300 verified a day at the buffers only, never at the money site. september update nothing moved on both. i think the slow speed matters as much as the number of sites,, the ones i saw get hit were blasting direct
 
Had few beers tonight :D, we are celebrating a small win in the office so i am little bit tipsy lol. Pardon my english anyway, i am not a native speaker, so tipsy or not some lines will read funny.. you will get the point.

Go to the white hat section right now and count the threads. "clean backlink profile but still dropped in core update", "crawled not indexed", "are backlinks still worth it". Same threads every update since years, only the usernames change. People cleaning their profile, disavowing, paying native writers, and still dropped. Spam update comes, core update comes, some clean sites go down and some dirty sites go up. Nobody can explain it properly, including Google lol.

This is the main reason i stopped believing in "high quality backlink strategy" as a protection. White hat, black hat, grey hat, whatever practices you follow you are going to get hit one day. I compare it with aging.. you can take anti aging stuff, eat clean, be careful, in the end it depends on the luck and the niche you are in. Some niches google forgive everything, some niches even perfect site get killed. I tested this myself, hired native writers, built clean backlinks profile by hand for one project, some ranked, and it still went down in an update same as my automated sites /link automation. In Google eyes clean or dirty profile dont exist, only what works in that niche this year.

Little background. Started with senuke and magic submitter in 2000s era, then xrumer, scrapebox, now GSA SER, ranker x, money robot with my own scripts (little phython background and now AI). Heavily depend on automation since the beginning and every update people around me panicking and quitting.. i am still here.

So my only suggestion, do not stick to a single project. When i work on a niche i build minimum 3 properties at the same time. Same niche, different domains, different content angle, different link approach. One gets hit, other two carry the income, and the one that got hit usually comes back after next update anyway. With one website you are gambling no matter which hat you wear.

How is this possible for a one man? Because in 2026 everything is automated. Content for the sites comes from AI, nobody can tell the difference if you give proper prompts and a human read. Links come from tools, tiered link building is still working, I build tiers to my buffer sites and leave money site alone (except some old sites where i send filtered links direct). No indexer needed when tier 2 is running. Cost for tier 2 whole month is less than one guest post.

Many times tiered links to a buffer gave me better movement than guest posts i paid $99-300$ for. Paying for a single "high DA" backlink is sometimes complete waste of money, page is not even indexed and nobody will crawl it. Sometimes guest post works great too, depends on the page. For me tiered building wins more often than it loses and it scales to 3 or 5 or 10 sites, guest post budget does not scale.

Set up properly, filter your list hard, decent content, and spread the risk over few sites instead of praying for one.

Anyway thats my 2 cents after too many updates and few beers. There is no white hat or black hat in the end, only the niche and the luck, so automate whatever you are doing and dont put everything on one site. Curious how many sites you guys run per niche.. ok beer number 4 is calling.
i concur with the idea of not putting all eggs in one basket.just bcz a website is successfful for many years does not mean that an update will not result in losing visitors.the good thing about having multiple websites is that u get to diversify nd share risks.however it will cost time nd money in maintenance. diversification may only make sense if each website has a distinct purpose.
 
mostly agree but 3 sites in the same niche is 3x the content to keep fresh << thats where i got lazy in 2024, 2 of them went thin and both dropped in the same update. the spread only works if all 3 stay alive. what fixed it for me was taking the content off my plate, generated calendar, i only read the money pages myself. links were never the time sink, thats one project per buffer off a verified list and it runs itself
 
i concur with the idea of not putting all eggs in one basket.just bcz a website is successfful for many years does not mean that an update will not result in losing visitors.the good thing about having multiple websites is that u get to diversify nd share risks.however it will cost time nd money in maintenance. diversification may only make sense if each website has a distinct purpose.

Even a decade ago you didn't have to spend time on these, but you definitely had to spend money since most tools came with subscription based pricing. Once you learn it, it's set and forget. But with AI now, there's no excuse ....you can talk to AI and automate the process almost for free. I don't think maintaining a bunch of websites is a big deal either, considering I have hundreds of active ones and some I don't even know about lol
 
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