[Journey] Get Rich or Die Trying! My LONG Journey from $0 to $10,000,000/yr on Ebay

vlarry said:

Where to you get sms? Do you use t-mobile or verizon numbers to create accounts? and how do you handle them? multilogin or mozilla portable? I'm in the same boat with 100 accounts , but I'm getting suspended quite easy.. especially now, in November

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I use mint mobile for the majority of my accounts, because they offer the cheapest prepaid phone plan. for farming, I use unique VPS for each account, with random windows environment, then you just need to set up the proxy IP for each vps. I use random browers for each vps. Some VPS providers are blacklisted by Ebay, I would recommend don't go with anything that is selling here in bhw marketplace, and find your own. I use vps from HK providers, those work just fine for the moment.

I will take them out of the VPS and move them to a real laptop once I have activate the account for selling. I either use top quality proxy IPs, or just run a real residential line with the IP provider. The later is more expensive and more work, but those will provide you with the best result.

PandaDaddy said:

I use mint mobile for the majority of my accounts, because they offer the cheapest prepaid phone plan. for farming, I use unique VPS for each account, with random windows environment, then you just need to set up the proxy IP for each vps. I use random browers for each vps. Some VPS providers are blacklisted by Ebay, I would recommend don't go with anything that is selling here in bhw marketplace, and find your own. I use vps from HK providers, those work just fine for the moment.

I will take them out of the VPS and move them to a real laptop once I have activate the account for selling. I either use top quality proxy IPs, or just run a real residential line with the IP provider. The later is more expensive and more work, but those will provide you with the best result.

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Can you send me your telegram? Do you also making farming on your ebay accounts? Like 20 purchases for 20 positive reviews to make account looks better as it have reviews , what I do is mozilla portable, I find it the best, I just create lots of accounts in 1 pc, 100 user accounts and everyone has its own mozilla browser and managing account with that, I also tried a lot of antidetects like Multilogin and somedays ago I lost like 40 accounts, attached screenshot. The thing is... The only accounts were suspended, that I used and managed from Multilogin, all accs on mozilla portable are ok. I can share with you good sms service and you might try it and give me ur feedback how it goes for you

Good luck with your journey. How's the update?

vlarry said:

Can you send me your telegram? Do you also making farming on your ebay accounts? Like 20 purchases for 20 positive reviews to make account looks better as it have reviews , what I do is mozilla portable, I find it the best, I just create lots of accounts in 1 pc, 100 user accounts and everyone has its own mozilla browser and managing account with that, I also tried a lot of antidetects like Multilogin and somedays ago I lost like 40 accounts, attached screenshot. The thing is... The only accounts were suspended, that I used and managed from Multilogin, all accs on mozilla portable are ok. I can share with you good sms service and you might try it and give me ur feedback how it goes for you

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Hello, currently, we are ok with the SMS, the thing is that, I would prefer to keep the number just in case if the account becomes a big seller, ebay now implements a re-verification process after your account has become active for a while. So you gotta get your story straight. I am not using 1 pc to manage all, it is much easier that way, but ebay tend to be able to detect that. I am not sure what you are referring as the portable mozilla, I am not familiar with that term, do you mean using the modzilla browser with your cell phone and farm it that way? Cell phone has an easier time initially, but you can't run the business with your cell phone, so once you go PC/Desktop/VPS, ebay will detect a new environment, so it is better to stay consistent and do not change your environment once you register your account.

donipadangsambian said:

Good luck with your journey. How's the update?

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I am doing update screenshot every month around the 11th 12th.

PandaDaddy said:

Hello, currently, we are ok with the SMS, the thing is that, I would prefer to keep the number just in case if the account becomes a big seller, ebay now implements a re-verification process after your account has become active for a while. So you gotta get your story straight. I am not using 1 pc to manage all, it is much easier that way, but ebay tend to be able to detect that. I am not sure what you are referring as the portable mozilla, I am not familiar with that term, do you mean using the modzilla browser with your cell phone and farm it that way? Cell phone has an easier time initially, but you can't run the business with your cell phone, so once you go PC/Desktop/VPS, ebay will detect a new environment, so it is better to stay consistent and do not change your environment once you register your account.

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Nope. Create over your windows a lot of user-accounts, lets say Admin, admin2, admin3, admin4
And for every user-account has its own mozilla browser or chrome so you can manage like 100 accounts from 1 pc, thats what i'm doing
100 user accounts and every account has mozilla with cookies for specific account that I use, I found out that this method is the best , as accounts are not getting suspended ......, but Multilogin software is antidetect browser and u can run lots of browsers from 1 pc, but ebay started to catch it since september, every end of month I lose all accounts I created on multilogin antidetect , as on 25 November I got 30 accounts suspended from multilogin in 1 minute (sent screenshot above) that I created on 1-4 November

I think using mobile + ebay app is also good to go.

As a proxy do you use illusory/ proxyguys ? Or something more private?
Also since start of november, every account we create has limit of selling 700$ or 3500$, before it was 25000$
Do you have the same issue? Do you use proxifier?

Following, LFG!

Amazing

vlarry said:

Nope. Create over your windows a lot of user-accounts, lets say Admin, admin2, admin3, admin4
And for every user-account has its own mozilla browser or chrome so you can manage like 100 accounts from 1 pc, thats what i'm doing
100 user accounts and every account has mozilla with cookies for specific account that I use, I found out that this method is the best , as accounts are not getting suspended ......, but Multilogin software is antidetect browser and u can run lots of browsers from 1 pc, but ebay started to catch it since september, every end of month I lose all accounts I created on multilogin antidetect , as on 25 November I got 30 accounts suspended from multilogin in 1 minute (sent screenshot above) that I created on 1-4 November

I think using mobile + ebay app is also good to go.

As a proxy do you use illusory/ proxyguys ? Or something more private?
Also since start of november, every account we create has limit of selling 700$ or 3500$, before it was 25000$
Do you have the same issue? Do you use proxifier?

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I suppose this will save alot of time and energy, but I am still following my current method to farm. The main reason is that we do not know what ebay algorithm is using to flag your accounts. Alot of people here is giving alot of advices, but at the end of the day, they are just guessing with no way of confirming. What I know is that my accounts rarely get banned before they go live, so I will stick to the method until it doesnt work anymore.

mobile + ebay app is more trusted by ebay algo, but you can't run the live accounts from there, it lacks many seller functions, so eventually, you will have to change it back to desktop/laptop based (unless you just want to sell the accounts).

We do not use any of the proxy service that you mentioned. It is a tricky thing, the proxy needs to be fresh, many proxies are recycled and most are sequential, best way is just set up your own IPs with ISP. If that is not an option, then you will really need to invest time to find the right proxy provider.

Based on my experience, when you get a low limit account, most likely it means ebay does not like some of your registration stuff. normally, these accounts do not survive, so when that happens, we moved the account into a separate list, and maybe come back after they are well aged. I only actively farm the one with at least 25K in dollar limit, anything lower than that, I will not farm them. We normally will get 50K limit, sometimes for uknown reasons, we will get 25K. we have not had anything under 25K for a long time now.

So many gems being dropped in this thread it's crazy. Best of luck to your endeavor.

Hey! how much $ do you sell per 1 account monthly usually?

Mate, you have all my respect for what you did!

vlarry said:

Hey! how much $ do you sell per 1 account monthly usually?

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It really depends on the age and performance metric of the account.

established accounts with over 1 year of history and Top rated in performance metric will sell between 700-3000 USD per day, but because of our business model, it is very difficult for us to achieve top rated seller designation, so our top accounts only sell for around $700-$1000 per, you can see those on the chart in the origninal thread, account 1,1b, 3c

our middle level accounts are selling around $200-$500 USD per

New accounts are selling for 50-150 USD per

PandaDaddy said:

I use mint mobile for the majority of my accounts, because they offer the cheapest prepaid phone plan. for farming, I use unique VPS for each account, with random windows environment, then you just need to set up the proxy IP for each vps. I use random browers for each vps. Some VPS providers are blacklisted by Ebay, I would recommend don't go with anything that is selling here in bhw marketplace, and find your own. I use vps from HK providers, those work just fine for the moment.

I will take them out of the VPS and move them to a real laptop once I have activate the account for selling. I either use top quality proxy IPs, or just run a real residential line with the IP provider. The later is more expensive and more work, but those will provide you with the best result.

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do you focus vps to be on USA ip to lower your ping ? The proxy will be USA too lets say verizon and you need that to ping be lower VPS USA+USA PROXY?
Because If I'm in EU country and I will use USA lets say verizon 5g proxy, ebay will see that my ping is big, but if I use VPS USA and proxy usa, ping will be lower, as VPS based in USA and proxy in usa too. Is that one of the reason you use vps?

Do you source from ali express? Im in the U.S so a china agent isnt to accessible for me. Where do you recommend people in the U.S to source?

Do you only do buy it now listiings? Do you pay for promotions for your listings on ebay? How many items do you typically have listed on ebay?

Thanks Im going to get back into ebay if I can find a good source. Im going to stick to aliexpress for now I guess.

vlarry said:

do you focus vps to be on USA ip to lower your ping ? The proxy will be USA too lets say verizon and you need that to ping be lower VPS USA+USA PROXY?
Because If I'm in EU country and I will use USA lets say verizon 5g proxy, ebay will see that my ping is big, but if I use VPS USA and proxy usa, ping will be lower, as VPS based in USA and proxy in usa too. Is that one of the reason you use vps?

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No, I never even considered the PING as one of the factors.

I am using USA based VPS and I am using US based proxy/real ISP, but the intention is not to lower the PING, the intention is that ebay will flag your account as higher risk automatically if the detect cross border operation. This does not mean that the accounts open this way will be suspended, but it certainly increase its chances of getting banned.

deeznutzulick said:

Do you source from ali express? Im in the U.S so a china agent isnt to accessible for me. Where do you recommend people in the U.S to source?

Do you only do buy it now listiings? Do you pay for promotions for your listings on ebay? How many items do you typically have listed on ebay?

Thanks Im going to get back into ebay if I can find a good source. Im going to stick to aliexpress for now I guess.

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No Chinese source from aliexpress, aliexpress is for foreigners, people from china will source from 1688, which is also operated by ali, but it is more for chinese sellers. Seller service there is alot more tailored, better suited for ecommerce.

We only do buy it now right now. Yes you will need to pay for marketing just like any other ecommerce platform unless you have a unique hot sell items that no body else has. Each account will run somethwhere between 25-200 unique listings, you start low and then build your way up to get more trust from the algo.

PandaDaddy said:

No Chinese source from aliexpress, aliexpress is for foreigners, people from china will source from 1688, which is also operated by ali, but it is more for chinese sellers. Seller service there is alot more tailored, better suited for ecommerce.

We only do buy it now right now. Yes you will need to pay for marketing just like any other ecommerce platform unless you have a unique hot sell items that no body else has. Each account will run somethwhere between 25-200 unique listings, you start low and then build your way up to get more trust from the algo.

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So you recommend 1688? even though im in america? Will they dropship?

PandaDaddy said:

No Chinese source from aliexpress, aliexpress is for foreigners, people from china will source from 1688, which is also operated by ali, but it is more for chinese sellers. Seller service there is alot more tailored, better suited for ecommerce.

We only do buy it now right now. Yes you will need to pay for marketing just like any other ecommerce platform unless you have a unique hot sell items that no body else has. Each account will run somethwhere between 25-200 unique listings, you start low and then build your way up to get more trust from the algo.

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Okay also you said you pay for marketing. When I was asking about marketing I was specifically talking bout paying for eBays marketing, where they will push your listings higher in the search for a higher cost of commission. Is that what you were referring to? Or are you saying in general I need to promote my eBay listing everywhere, like on google/facebook ads?

I think youre solely talking about just using ebays marketing to promote your listings right?

Thanks youve been a big help. Ik theres alot of easy money to be made with ebay.

yes, promote on ebay only. It is not cost-effective to promote ebay listings outisde of ebay, promoting outside of the platform probably work better with higher quality product platform such as etsy or amazon.

PandaDaddy said:

yes, promote on ebay only. It is not cost-effective to promote ebay listings outisde of ebay, promoting outside of the platform probably work better with higher quality product platform such as etsy or amazon.

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Okay thanks. I tried 1688 and alot for have minimum order requirements.

deeznutzulick said:

Okay thanks. I tried 1688 and alot for have minimum order requirements.

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Okay thanks. I tried 1688 and alot for have minimum order requirements.

why would minimium orders be an issue? most have like 2-3 items as mini orders

PandaDaddy said:

Okay thanks. I tried 1688 and alot for have minimum order requirements.

why would minimium orders be an issue? most have like 2-3 items as mini orders

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If I list it on ebay most people only want 1 item... If they dropship them 3 that means the customer on ebay has to buy 3 of the same items?