I'm going to start reviewing every content BST
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blogzandstuff
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Well actually you need a track record and authority, you wouldn't get financial advice from just anyone, would you?
He thinks that members are not going to buy content because he hasn't given " HIS " stamp of approval. So if i buy an i-phone and didn't like it, i can make a " Badge " and not give Apple MY stamp of approval and expect people to take notice.
ppaizon217
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That goes into the top useless threads ever. After page 2 I were just hoping to find more jokes about the seal.
frodskii80
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Shut the fuck up Ste, I`m drunk and dangerous!!
Dude, leave the zombies alone. It`s proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the OP is a attention seeker, using this for exposure for his personal blog and Guilty as charged!
Shame on you OP for even trying!!!
cashcrateaddict
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mod reviews dont mean shit tbh
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Post a BST and see what kind of gauntlet you have to run to get one approved these days.
You may just change your tune.
I'd beg to differ.. A LOT has changed in the past 6-12 months and especially in the past few recent months.
Let me tell you how changed they are - I recently got a new bst approved here, we don't sell much here anymore but the traffic has always been solid so I thought why not, it should be an easy approval with my track record and obvious trust factor of being staff and here helping daily.
Nope.. I went through the most detailed and thorough review I've ever had to do here! And you all know I've been selling on the marketplace for years, so I've been through quite a few in my time.
I had to hand over our largest package, the regular retail price is over $5k on this and the posts supplied retail for much more when resold by agency clients.
Things have changed here in a big way, certainly for the better. My review was tedious but I will say one thing, the detailed honest review I got from the approving Admin was well worth it.. That right there is my real badge of approval.
On closing.. I'd encourage members to reach out to staff if a bst isn't producing the quality it's been approved for, it will be looked at properly.
Not really. Mods are only people. People who have been members of here. Every one is capable of being bias.
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I wasn't going to post here, but I had to so as to let the worrywarts know that Mod evaluations are not as simple as "Go write me an article.". They are a pretty thorough process and mods take their time to place orders and post assessments.
The one review you see after the Approved post in a thread is essentially a gist of what happened post thread submission. What you don't see is the entire request, the work submission, the compliance guidance and the commentary on the quality of the work amongst other things.
The content requested is challenging and very well thought-out. The submitted work is gauged, changes are requested time and again and only post that does the thread get approved.
It can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks before your thread is approved - depending on the convenience of the mod, the number of submissions and your speed of delivery and the ability to make changes as requested.
Also, the reviews are honest and any inadequacies in your interaction with the moderator are mentioned truthfully. Take my case for instance, I had to deliver a story - and I was a couple of days late in submission. I compensated the delay by delivering 1.5x the original word count requested. But still @I know SEO's review on my thread mentions the delay.
And it is nice. An honest review is better, any day. Clients have messaged me and brought up their concern about the delivery timelines by pointing to the mod-review and I have had to assure them that the delivery timelines will be met with their order. But it is healthy business. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Also, the onus of quality retention is upon the service provider. Clients are not idiots and the ability to post public reviews makes it all the more challenging. People come down hard when the delivery timeline is delayed. If a content delivery were subpar, they’d be the first to speak up. Why shouldn’t they? They’ve paid something and are expecting, at a bare minimum, to get whatever is mentioned in the OP.
I agree that service providers go into damage control immediately upon being called out and may offer compensations and/or refund to a client in order to makeup for their lack of quality. And the client, in such instances, may refrain from posting a review and maintain a neutral outlook. But that is really the client’s discretion. It mimics the real world business environment impeccably.
Also, if the experiences were really bad – the Shit List exists for a reason.
The one review you see after the Approved post in a thread is essentially a gist of what happened post thread submission. What you don't see is the entire request, the work submission, the compliance guidance and the commentary on the quality of the work amongst other things.
The content requested is challenging and very well thought-out. The submitted work is gauged, changes are requested time and again and only post that does the thread get approved.
It can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks before your thread is approved - depending on the convenience of the mod, the number of submissions and your speed of delivery and the ability to make changes as requested.
Also, the reviews are honest and any inadequacies in your interaction with the moderator are mentioned truthfully. Take my case for instance, I had to deliver a story - and I was a couple of days late in submission. I compensated the delay by delivering 1.5x the original word count requested. But still @I know SEO's review on my thread mentions the delay.
And it is nice. An honest review is better, any day. Clients have messaged me and brought up their concern about the delivery timelines by pointing to the mod-review and I have had to assure them that the delivery timelines will be met with their order. But it is healthy business. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Also, the onus of quality retention is upon the service provider. Clients are not idiots and the ability to post public reviews makes it all the more challenging. People come down hard when the delivery timeline is delayed. If a content delivery were subpar, they’d be the first to speak up. Why shouldn’t they? They’ve paid something and are expecting, at a bare minimum, to get whatever is mentioned in the OP.
I agree that service providers go into damage control immediately upon being called out and may offer compensations and/or refund to a client in order to makeup for their lack of quality. And the client, in such instances, may refrain from posting a review and maintain a neutral outlook. But that is really the client’s discretion. It mimics the real world business environment impeccably.
Also, if the experiences were really bad – the Shit List exists for a reason.
cashcrateaddict
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May be true for the new threads but we have many (pages) threads from 2012 all thru to 2016 that are going & completely suck. From the blantantly fake reviews, to the service calling itself "Penalty proof" "white hat" "permanent links but uses 1time fee model" etc,
theres a lot of bs in the marketplace & you seriously have to wonder how half the marketplace threads even got approved.
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I don't think this is very useful as now you have already publicized your name and what you are doing. However, I think there should be a better way to judge the quality of services beyond moderator approval. There is some BS floating around in the marketplace for sure. I would encourage all users who use the marketplace to leave honest and uncensored reviews.
I also wish that BHW would bring star ratings back as thumbs up are totally useless. Not that star ratings were anything close to 100%, but I found they often reflected my feelings about a service whereas thumbs up are completely useless no matter how you slice it.
I also wish that BHW would bring star ratings back as thumbs up are totally useless. Not that star ratings were anything close to 100%, but I found they often reflected my feelings about a service whereas thumbs up are completely useless no matter how you slice it.
SnoopyDrew
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Josh is getting eaten alive here LOL
SwiffJustus
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Perhaps that is one good thing that can result from this thread is that the Owners being aware of a secret reviewer will have to stay on top their game... not that they already aren't.
You know much like a restaurant expecting a anonymous food critic would take that extra care to wipe the edges of the plate and use pristine parsley stems as garish, but then as the nerves whether and human nature kicks in after awhile, sick and tired of the nerve racking wondering, we usually just say Frick it.. it is what it is.. whatever happens happens, I'm gonna just do me. Then it's back to serving customers from plates pulled from the bus pan and made just presentable enough. Soon, it is always back to business as usual and all was much to do about nothing and the OP will say this was his ingenious intent all along... To keep the marketplace on it's toes -lol
Plus Airtime!
Silly rant done
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The only people that review BST's are me and Apricot, we both work in house at the BHW office. It's our 9 to 5...
I don't believe it would be in our interest to be bias. We can't take part in the marketplace as sellers, so where would the bias come into it. Even if we were we would have real life implications for our actions, which really wouldn't be cool...
When it was every mod from every corner of the globe doing reviews who help out and volunteer I'm sure services got through that shouldn't have... but what can you do about that?
You can only improve things going forward...
Sherb
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This is the kind of shit that happens when people don't have enough to do in their day to keep busy.
Mods:
Your reviews are fine and clearly getting better. It may be time to keep a database of who is selling what, when they started selling, and how long it has been since a moderator has reviewed their shit.
Members:
Analyze the BST.
Does it have some kind of brand attached to it? i.e. "Sherlock Hacks Google" "Lady Gaga Google Rider", etc? I don't know about you but I avoid those at all costs.
Are there misspellings in the infographic? If they're selling content, I'd stay the fuck away. And here's a hint: NATIVE ENGLISH CONTENT WRITER does not mean that they write well. It means they can speak English. Speaking and writing are two completely different animals.
Did you get a review copy? Congratulations, that is likely some of that sellers top work. Everything that is actually paid for will have the following priority: First comes meeting the turnaround time when inundated with orders. Second will come article quantity. Third will come quality.
i literally have an entire write-up of this here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/quality-quantity-speed-pick-two-the-im-triangle.842710/
Did you ask for samples? Take those samples as what they are: Curated articles that have received the sellers own "seal of approval" and are deemed good enough to basically be attached to the sales copy as a tool for sales. You aren't getting an example of what their articles are like. You are getting a fine-tuned sales tool.
Josh:
It's pretty clear what you did here was trying to help other members. In doing so you showed your hand and revealed that you think your review is more important than others. Would I trust a review from you over a review from a member with 20 posts? Sure, who wouldn't? Want to know what would cause me to be wary of that? A goddamn seal of approval with your name slapped on it and linked to some shitshow of a website with other goddamn seals of approval with your name slapped on it.
Your intentions were likely good with this. I tried something similar in my case study thread a while back. It worked okay, but unless you plan on making reviewing content your full-time job, good luck keeping up. It's one thing to say "I'm going to buy up and review all new content services". It's another thing to actually do it. Actions speak louder than words.
Don't let a light blue color go to your head, either. You're just a member here, same as everyone else. Post and thanks count don't mean shit. Contributions do. And you contribute a lot on here. I saw last month you made a free Udemy course for members. That's great. And your weekly accomplishments thread is one of the best things I've seen added to the site, and probably the best thing in the Lounge recently, which is where I do the majority of my postings.
But do you know what happens when you attach your name to something and call it golden? You become a guru. You become Online Adrian. Helpful in ways, but annoying as fuck in others. You have clearly contributed a ton to BHW since you joined. I can see you have worlds more to contribute. Don't develop a false sense of prestige, though. Nobody is on a pedestal on the Internet.
Mods:
Your reviews are fine and clearly getting better. It may be time to keep a database of who is selling what, when they started selling, and how long it has been since a moderator has reviewed their shit.
Members:
Analyze the BST.
Does it have some kind of brand attached to it? i.e. "Sherlock Hacks Google" "Lady Gaga Google Rider", etc? I don't know about you but I avoid those at all costs.
Are there misspellings in the infographic? If they're selling content, I'd stay the fuck away. And here's a hint: NATIVE ENGLISH CONTENT WRITER does not mean that they write well. It means they can speak English. Speaking and writing are two completely different animals.
Did you get a review copy? Congratulations, that is likely some of that sellers top work. Everything that is actually paid for will have the following priority: First comes meeting the turnaround time when inundated with orders. Second will come article quantity. Third will come quality.
i literally have an entire write-up of this here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/quality-quantity-speed-pick-two-the-im-triangle.842710/
Did you ask for samples? Take those samples as what they are: Curated articles that have received the sellers own "seal of approval" and are deemed good enough to basically be attached to the sales copy as a tool for sales. You aren't getting an example of what their articles are like. You are getting a fine-tuned sales tool.
Josh:
It's pretty clear what you did here was trying to help other members. In doing so you showed your hand and revealed that you think your review is more important than others. Would I trust a review from you over a review from a member with 20 posts? Sure, who wouldn't? Want to know what would cause me to be wary of that? A goddamn seal of approval with your name slapped on it and linked to some shitshow of a website with other goddamn seals of approval with your name slapped on it.
Your intentions were likely good with this. I tried something similar in my case study thread a while back. It worked okay, but unless you plan on making reviewing content your full-time job, good luck keeping up. It's one thing to say "I'm going to buy up and review all new content services". It's another thing to actually do it. Actions speak louder than words.
Don't let a light blue color go to your head, either. You're just a member here, same as everyone else. Post and thanks count don't mean shit. Contributions do. And you contribute a lot on here. I saw last month you made a free Udemy course for members. That's great. And your weekly accomplishments thread is one of the best things I've seen added to the site, and probably the best thing in the Lounge recently, which is where I do the majority of my postings.
But do you know what happens when you attach your name to something and call it golden? You become a guru. You become Online Adrian. Helpful in ways, but annoying as fuck in others. You have clearly contributed a ton to BHW since you joined. I can see you have worlds more to contribute. Don't develop a false sense of prestige, though. Nobody is on a pedestal on the Internet.
I am not saying you do not do your job properly. I am not saying mods favour people. I was simply saying it is possible.
I see one BST on here, and the title seems so misleading. I'm not saying this BST was accepted through bias / friendship. In fact it has nothing to do with my original point. My point was, everyone has a bias point to some degree.
Anyway, my opinion is the only real way to get ahead in IM, is try and test yourself. No matter who verifies, reviews or whatever.
Sherb
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Why not? Why not want to build a close relationship with other successful people? I can see what you are saying, if you are very successful, then why bother doing anything? But people are different, whatever floats your boat.
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Damn... You got me right in the feels with that one.
I took the job for several reasons, money was not one of them.
I will learn more here doing what I do over the next year, than you will in the next 5 years.
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