@ thunderelvi
By dead i mean asking for re-verification (8 of them, and 1 of them is asking for ID verification), asking for a confirmation code via phone - the seller i purchased the accounts from can't help me out with these codes, so if this will happen in the future (and just that code is what's needed to fix the accounts) i would rather buy some sim cards and verify the accounts myself.
I would rather not use proxies coz i don't know where i can't find virgin proxies that are also stable - i know there are a lot of proxy providers out there, i tested quite a lot of them, but there's no one i can actually trust.
Regarding spamming - i'm just talking about a sheer number of shares / posts per day - like 30 posts per account per day - they will be quality posts, won't be duplicates, if there will be links involved there will be to reputable sites (like reddit or imgur or whatever). I won't be posting links to CPA offers or any kind of affiliate stuff, i'm just trying to promote some websites (legitimate businesses). So probably one of these 30 posts will be about the websites i'm tying to promote, the rest will link to other high authority sites.
You say you're not using proxies, that's my goal as well.
How many accounts are you running without proxies?
If i can get ID verified accounts (yes, i can get them), will they be safe, even if they are new?
Any place i can buy some of them active and aged accounts?
I'm just trying to figure out how to scale this and which is the best way to go : more accounts and fewer posts per account (fresh accounts, cheaper ones, maybe even proxies - but that's an issue, finding good ones) or fewer accounts (either old and active or ID verified ones) and more posts per account. From your experience, what's the best way to spend $100 (just for testing) and get the best results (and lasting accounts, that's my goal here, not to get them banned - to sort of "establish" them, grow them, start posting slowly and in time grow the number of accounts i'm using). So what do you think i can get for $100 ?
That's exactly what I have recommended people to do for a very long time here - buy sim cards and verify them yourself. Yes, you are right, only the code is needed and you will get back access to your account. Sometimes, accounts that you buy from sellers will hit a phone verification straight away as soon as you log in them (with or without proxy it doesn't matter), because the IP/device/fingerprints that the account was last accessed (the IP the seller used) is totally different from the IP you are accessing it from (especially if the subnets or countries are different). Facebook tracks this and it's also a security measure in case your account gets stolen and someone else accesses it.
So, when you buy accounts, make sure you ask the seller that if there are any problems (re-verifications) of this kind, they can provide you with a backup solution, either another account, verification codes, etc... If they don't, don't buy from them, otherwise you will waste your money if by any chance you get a re-verification roadblock. And in case you don't, as soon as you login, remove the number and input yours instead, so yeah, you have to buy sim cards locally or on Ebay, but don't worry, if you search deep enough, you can find really cheap ones ($1-3 each).
I recommend you create accounts yourself, verify them with sim cards and age them up slowly yourself - it's the best way to go through with this method. Not only you don't have the headache of hunting down sellers, talking to them, finding reliable ones, etc... but also you will get re-verification roadblocks again later on when you start your marketing campaigns, it's inevitable. If you don't own the numbers, your accounts may be lost at any time, because you don't have access to the numbers and if the sellers don't as well or lose access or the numbers expire, you're screwed!
Regarding proxies, you have 2 viable options:
1) Use the marketplace here in BHW - do as I said and ask the sellers BEFORE you buy proxies. Only go forward purchasing them if you get a green light that they are good to go on FB. Ask for replacement if they somehow fuck up and give you dead ones (sometimes it happens, it's not their fault). Check the BST-s, there are plenty of providers there, I'm sure you will find someone.
2) Use your residential home line if you have one and if your IP is dynamic. I understand it's a pain in the ass especially if your line sucks and has slow speed, you are on Mac, you have to restart the router every now and then, etc... But it's a good option if you aren't making any money and just starting out.
I'm running quite a lot of accounts without proxies. I suggest when you start out, you only run a few, make money from them and re-invest in buying proxies later for each account, especially if option 2 above is not viable for you and you have to use a VPS. Remember, VPS-s run on datacenters and they can only use dedicated static IP-s (these IP-s are actually the proxies you buy), not dynamic ones. So, you are gonna need proxies for sure if you can't make use of your home connection.
As for ID verified accounts, if you can get them, it's gonna be the best thing you will ever do. At the moment, they are the safest and you can post as much as you want, unless you get a lot of reports on your posts, but to be honest, that is just a hunch that you might get in trouble, because I've never had an ID verified account blocked, but then again my posts are quality and don't get reported, on the contrary they get liked/shared/commented a lot.
Again, I have no experience with new ID verified accounts, because the ones that I can get my hands on are from real people and have been used for years (some of them since 2008). But, I think (again just a hunch) in my opinion, you shouldn't start mass posting in the first day even though the accounts are ID verified, just slowly increase the number of posts and by the end of the month, you will be able to post a ton of posts (above 30 that your initial goal is) every day without problems. Also, I have no idea where you can buy ID verified accounts, I get them from people that I know in real life. To my knowledge, there are no providers that sell them, at least here in BHW and most of other forums I am part of. But if you know any source, even if the ID verified accounts are new, I would appreciate it if you told me (PM me if you don't want the info to be public).
Regarding spamming, as I mentioned above, you won't be able to do that many posts per day if your accounts are new, so keep it low at first and slowly add up. Other than that, you seem to get the idea of posting quality stuff (make sure the posts are engaging as well for extra free traffic from shares), so kudos for that! However, I don't get why you need to post 29 "filler" posts and 1 with your website?!
Yes, it's a very good idea to be active on the groups and post other useful (or funny wherever it applies) stuff except your promotion posts, but 29 is overkill and actually hurts you, it doesn't help you. I really do suggest you are active and post other useful stuff in the group except promoting your websites, because you will get more reputation and won't come off as a spammer, but keep it a low number - this way you don't "piss off" the anti-spam filters and still get good engagement from the groups. Other than that, you are on the right track to posting the right way!
In order to scale this, DEFINITELY go with more accounts and fewer posts per account per day, BUT age/warm them up first before you start posting at all. An exception is of course ID verified accounts as I mentioned above, and the older and more active they are, the better. To better spend that $100 and give you recommendations, I need to know whether you are going to use a bot or do things manually and if you are going to use a VPS or handle things with your home connection.
P.S. Holy shit this is one hell of a post I wrote, I didn't realize it got this big lol, probably deserves its own thread
