Instagram Journey to $100K
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jjgg89
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how do you deal with the phone verification if they are burners? Dont they ask for the code that they send to your phone number? Do you have access to the phone numbers you are using to verify?
Well, after managing 100 accounts for 3 days straight, I can say that this is the most boring job I ever had... but let's hope this is the most rewarding one
I ordered them from the same supplier that OP did. The first 50 account were okay, but once I started re-using the same proxies for another 50 accounts, almost each of them got phone verification. I bought around 20 burner numbers to deal with it.
Thank you very much. I was using a volume campaign for a few days, but I will definitely try your method.
I am still just figuring everything out, but I realized that I had to do everything a bit slower, probably roll up 20 new accounts every week or so. Setting up 100 accounts right away is a pain in the ass, especially when you work full-time.
madblackhatter1000
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1. PVA's - don't worry about them too much. I buy the burners as I need them. If instagram asks you to verify and you no longer have the phone #, you can buy a new burner with new number and change it on the PVA screen before they send you the code. What is a big deal is your email account. Verify that it works. If IG asks for email verification and you don't have access to it, its impossible to get your account back. Get this administrative stuff locked solid in an Excel Spreadsheet. It becomes really complex and complicated very fast when dealing with so many different passwords and password changes. If you change your email to something cooler, save the old one, as IG will sometimes ask for the original creation email.
2. VPS - greencloudvps
3. BTW a neat little trick I've been using from time to time is Microsoft Remote Desktop on the iPhone. I've been able to monitor things at work, make small changes while at lunch. I got the total followers for this post from my phone as the wifi at this coffeeshop is blocking all VPN connections
1. PVA's - don't worry about them too much. I buy the burners as I need them. If instagram asks you to verify and you no longer have the phone #, you can buy a new burner with new number and change it on the PVA screen before they send you the code. What is a big deal is your email account. Verify that it works. If IG asks for email verification and you don't have access to it, its impossible to get your account back. Get this administrative stuff locked solid in an Excel Spreadsheet. It becomes really complex and complicated very fast when dealing with so many different passwords and password changes. If you change your email to something cooler, save the old one, as IG will sometimes ask for the original creation email.
2. VPS - greencloudvps
3. BTW a neat little trick I've been using from time to time is Microsoft Remote Desktop on the iPhone. I've been able to monitor things at work, make small changes while at lunch. I got the total followers for this post from my phone as the wifi at this coffeeshop is blocking all VPN connections
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OP, thanks for all the regular updates. Its part of my daily routine to check this thread. I have heard some things from friends that own individual accounts with 5 mil + followers and they are getting nervous for the next IG algo update. I would advise monetizing asap.
IG is a part of Facebook and the recent IG update is exactly what FB did a few years ago. They are giving users time to prepare for the next even larger update.... Giving users the ability to "follow" their favorite accounts sets up preferential treatment for those accounts that get the "notification turn on" from their followers. If IG implements the same changes that FB did then only the accounts a user "turns on notifications" for will show up in their news feed. This is all to create an environment for the everyday user to feel pressured to buy ads from IG so that they can reach their entire follower base. Just like boosting posts on FB. Right now you have 450k followers who could potentially see your posts. If and when IG implements the next update only a small percentage of those followers (the ones who turned on notifications for your accounts) are going to see your posts. I personally think waiting until July will be too long. but nothing has been confirmed and executives at IG have said what im predicting is not going to happen in the near future.
Personally I do not have as many followers as you and my plan of action is to keep chugging along with what I have and wait for whatever comes down the line from IG. In the end if you are simply using the like/follow/unfollow strategy users are still going to get notifications if someone follows them (even if the algo update im predicting happens)... which will work in our favor but if they do not turn on notifications for the account they will not see a post from it... unless ads are purchased to reach your entire follower base.
Best of luck and thanks again!
IG is a part of Facebook and the recent IG update is exactly what FB did a few years ago. They are giving users time to prepare for the next even larger update.... Giving users the ability to "follow" their favorite accounts sets up preferential treatment for those accounts that get the "notification turn on" from their followers. If IG implements the same changes that FB did then only the accounts a user "turns on notifications" for will show up in their news feed. This is all to create an environment for the everyday user to feel pressured to buy ads from IG so that they can reach their entire follower base. Just like boosting posts on FB. Right now you have 450k followers who could potentially see your posts. If and when IG implements the next update only a small percentage of those followers (the ones who turned on notifications for your accounts) are going to see your posts. I personally think waiting until July will be too long. but nothing has been confirmed and executives at IG have said what im predicting is not going to happen in the near future.
Personally I do not have as many followers as you and my plan of action is to keep chugging along with what I have and wait for whatever comes down the line from IG. In the end if you are simply using the like/follow/unfollow strategy users are still going to get notifications if someone follows them (even if the algo update im predicting happens)... which will work in our favor but if they do not turn on notifications for the account they will not see a post from it... unless ads are purchased to reach your entire follower base.
Best of luck and thanks again!
madblackhatter1000
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Thanks Snook. This will really change the IG landscape when it hits. Any idea when? I was hoping to monetize by end of June when I'll have a huge block of free time (I'm traveling right now for work and other commitments, writing this post from a cafe in Europe).
Some initial thoughts:
1. After The Changes, It's Still Worth It
I have some friends who are making 20K profit a month from their micro-niche facebook group with 200K fans. Thats pretty good considering the FB 4% throttle. If people can thrive with FB's throttle, I hope its equally true for IG throttle.
2. Optimize Your Business
This will kill certain types of businesses. The Shout-out business will be worth 96% less. If someone pays $100 to shout on 1Million Account, that will be worth $4 to shoutout to 40,000 people.
3. Increase Quality - Gain Subscribers
This will require increasing the quality of accounts in order to get subscribed. Most of my posts are 2nd-hand, 4 Stars (out of 5). I may consider hiring graphic designers to make a load of 5-star posts. I was considering doing this anyways once I hire someone from upwork for $5/hr.
4. Convert Blackhat to Whitehat. Own your network.
Email is still king. Once you have someone's email, no one can take that away. FB/IG/Youtube/Pinterest/Linkedin could take away your entire business overnight. But if you have the emails of 500K users - whitehat marketing is your friend, sending daily or weekly email blasts, blog posts, promotions, etc. I plan on converting as much blackhat into whitehat as quickly as possible.
Also, create an unstoppable interwoven social web. Send them to your Pinterest, Tumblr, Facebook, Blogger, Medium, Youtube pages. If the follower is not part of the 4% audience for that IG post, at least increase their chances of seeing it on another social network.
5. Competition will Change
Pro: Thousands of people taking advantage of how easy it is to make a buck will quit.
Con: New players with lots of advertising money will grow quickly.
Conclusion: We are in the middle and will both benefit and get bypassed by this arrangement.
Thanks Snook. This will really change the IG landscape when it hits. Any idea when? I was hoping to monetize by end of June when I'll have a huge block of free time (I'm traveling right now for work and other commitments, writing this post from a cafe in Europe).
Some initial thoughts:
1. After The Changes, It's Still Worth It
I have some friends who are making 20K profit a month from their micro-niche facebook group with 200K fans. Thats pretty good considering the FB 4% throttle. If people can thrive with FB's throttle, I hope its equally true for IG throttle.
2. Optimize Your Business
This will kill certain types of businesses. The Shout-out business will be worth 96% less. If someone pays $100 to shout on 1Million Account, that will be worth $4 to shoutout to 40,000 people.
3. Increase Quality - Gain Subscribers
This will require increasing the quality of accounts in order to get subscribed. Most of my posts are 2nd-hand, 4 Stars (out of 5). I may consider hiring graphic designers to make a load of 5-star posts. I was considering doing this anyways once I hire someone from upwork for $5/hr.
4. Convert Blackhat to Whitehat. Own your network.
Email is still king. Once you have someone's email, no one can take that away. FB/IG/Youtube/Pinterest/Linkedin could take away your entire business overnight. But if you have the emails of 500K users - whitehat marketing is your friend, sending daily or weekly email blasts, blog posts, promotions, etc. I plan on converting as much blackhat into whitehat as quickly as possible.
Also, create an unstoppable interwoven social web. Send them to your Pinterest, Tumblr, Facebook, Blogger, Medium, Youtube pages. If the follower is not part of the 4% audience for that IG post, at least increase their chances of seeing it on another social network.
5. Competition will Change
Pro: Thousands of people taking advantage of how easy it is to make a buck will quit.
Con: New players with lots of advertising money will grow quickly.
Conclusion: We are in the middle and will both benefit and get bypassed by this arrangement.
onelettershor
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- Aug 4, 2015
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Have you experimenting with commenting/no commenting? My accounts are just currently liking/following. I've been told to stay away from commenting, but it seems like it's working well for you?
Have you tested this?
Good luck with your journey OP!
Have you tested this?
Good luck with your journey OP!
MedinaPrime
Newbie
- Apr 19, 2016
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I hope all goes well with your journey. Hope you share some tips along the way. What works for you and what doesn't. 
valser29
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- Oct 15, 2015
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Yes, you have access for some period of days through the app on the smartphone. I am using smspva option in PM right now.
greenhatwizard
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- Apr 2, 2016
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This is an awesome thread. Thanks OP!
madblackhatter1000
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- Oct 29, 2015
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515,000 Followers. Half A Million Major Milestone Achieved.
Getting a few dings on my accounts (password change, phone verifications) as all accounts still following. Settings around 350-500 follows, 700-1000 likes, delays 10-35 minutes, so adding bigger delays across the board.
Biggest account is 9300.
3 in the 8K,
11 in the 7K,
11 in the 6K,
The rest are 5K or below.
I used to comment 3 months ago. Got good results, maybe increases the success by additional 5%. But also got waaaay more dings. I noticed good results just following + Liking without the hassle of the comments which may or may not set off a flag.
I do validation using a TXT MSG App for Burner phones in the IPhone app store. $2 for 1 burner. I then use the MassPlanner Browser (located inside the settings of each account) to enter in the changes manually. Theres many bad stories using the auto PVA according to the BHW forums...
YES!! Very Very Verrrrrry Soon! I'm in the middle of traveling overseas, so a bit hard to do any solid work on setting up the dropshipping website except nudging accounts.
They've been good for me so far! A few hiccups, but the budget vps for about $35 has been pretty solid. Not perfect, VPS can be a bit jittery accessing and making edits - ie, make your CSV files on your computer, then upload the CSV to the VPS. Otherwise would take you ages of waiting to set up each one manually.
Major Milestone Achieved.Getting a few dings on my accounts (password change, phone verifications) as all accounts still following. Settings around 350-500 follows, 700-1000 likes, delays 10-35 minutes, so adding bigger delays across the board.
Biggest account is 9300.
3 in the 8K,
11 in the 7K,
11 in the 6K,
The rest are 5K or below.
I used to comment 3 months ago. Got good results, maybe increases the success by additional 5%. But also got waaaay more dings. I noticed good results just following + Liking without the hassle of the comments which may or may not set off a flag.
I do validation using a TXT MSG App for Burner phones in the IPhone app store. $2 for 1 burner. I then use the MassPlanner Browser (located inside the settings of each account) to enter in the changes manually. Theres many bad stories using the auto PVA according to the BHW forums...
YES!! Very Very Verrrrrry Soon! I'm in the middle of traveling overseas, so a bit hard to do any solid work on setting up the dropshipping website except nudging accounts.
They've been good for me so far! A few hiccups, but the budget vps for about $35 has been pretty solid. Not perfect, VPS can be a bit jittery accessing and making edits - ie, make your CSV files on your computer, then upload the CSV to the VPS. Otherwise would take you ages of waiting to set up each one manually.
madblackhatter1000
Power Member
- Oct 29, 2015
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530K Followers
One of the challenges with 100 accounts is the wide variation in following or unfollowing velocity. Its a 2-week bell curve.
If all my accounts start following at the same time with the same settings, they will reach 7000 followings at very different times, usually a 2-week difference. Example, if the first account reaches 7000 on May 1st, the last account will finally reach 7000 on May 14. A big majority of them will reach 7000 on May 7th. The variations get worse when some accounts get temp-bans, flags, pva's, etc....
I wish all my manual nudging of MassPlanner could become a bot.
One of the challenges with 100 accounts is the wide variation in following or unfollowing velocity. Its a 2-week bell curve.
If all my accounts start following at the same time with the same settings, they will reach 7000 followings at very different times, usually a 2-week difference. Example, if the first account reaches 7000 on May 1st, the last account will finally reach 7000 on May 14. A big majority of them will reach 7000 on May 7th. The variations get worse when some accounts get temp-bans, flags, pva's, etc....
I wish all my manual nudging of MassPlanner could become a bot.
WhatDoesTheFoxWant
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- Dec 8, 2014
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Good luck with your journey man! I'm on a similar journey right now (except I'll be using 20 accounts instead of 100). I will follow this thread closely.
semahsedut
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- Apr 11, 2016
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inspiring post indeed bro
hazez
BANNED
- Jul 20, 2015
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good luck OP with your journey and I hope you reach your goals soon
about the autimation of following and unfollowing there is a new option in the massplanner which autimate that in tools>select wanted account for example following tool>> in setting under follow between >> there is new option called (Enable Automatic follow/unfollow)
it's allow you tho choose when the following tool follow operation reach eg. 6500 follow then the tool (following tool) will stop and unfollowing tool will start automatically
I hope that will help u
note: it's available in unfollowing tool also
note2: now they added that when the tool stops the following when they reach 6500 follow operations it will not start the unfollowing tool immediately you can choose a beriod of time to pause before they start unfollowing for example (it will start unfollowing when the account follow 7000 and rest for 700 min before unfollowing)