Stay away from freelancer.com

Could you ask the real Matt Barrie about company's personnel purpusefully and maliciously compromising user data?

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For your information: haven't been making ANY wikipedia edits for a few months.

How is this possible that you claim to be IT gurus and cannot perform simple IP tracing? There were dozens of users from multiple countries trying to inform the others that there are serious accusations about the company. Who gave you right to disclose my identity?
 
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Yes I am well aware of that site. Unfortunately Kent is not allowing us to respond to the users to sort out their problems.

Is this why?
from the post in question above:
Update #3 (November 2012)

Freelancer.com complained to my hosting company to try to get me to take down my entire website. Isn?t that crazy?! Hah! They accused me off violating the copyright and trademarks of Freelancer.com, in addition to defaming the company. Wow...."

(Freelancer is trying to get that honest review removed because they don't like it. Here's another excerpt further down in that same section:

They even want me to remove all the comments on this blog post. Hah why? Its an open forum, people can say whatever they "want (including all the customer service reps from Freelancer.com that have left comments.) Plus I highly doubt anybody is lying in the comments because everybody is saying the same exact thing."


Now, let me tell you about my experiences with Freelancer.com

I signed up as a freelancer while the site was still free. I don't know how (maybe its all the great ODesk feedback I have that I flaunted on my freelancer profile), but I won the first bid I placed for a writing job. It was a quick article for $30. Yes, if you look enough, you can find decent jobs there. BUT, as decent as that was, I got scammed out of my money. That client paid, no problem, so I bid on a few other jobs. One of them was for a few articles, and I bid a certain amount based on my specific knowledge of the article genre (I am a specialist in this area). The next day, I get an email saying that the client had chosen me, accepted my terms, and I had to accept the offer. I did accept it because it was for the amount I wanted (and I wanted half upfront), and I was under the assumption that because the client accepted, that the milestone would be put in escrow.

However, about an hour after accepting, I receive an email from the client saying that the job was no longer available, and that instead I would have to write twice as many articles for a different topic - one that I would never have bid on in the first place. Then I received an email within a minute after that one saying that the client denied my upfront. I replied to the client to find out what had happened, and he stated that he didn't want the articles anymore, so he wanted me to write the other topic because he thought that with my writing experience, I could get the job done quicker than anyone else. The problem was that he wanted twice as many articles for the same price on a topic I know noting about. I replied saying that I bid on a specific project, and that was the project I was going to work. He didn't respond after that, so I contacted Freelancer support to let them know I was getting scammed, and I requested that they reprimand the client and return my fees.

(Freelancer makes money from the clients and the workers), and this is part of the response I received:

...once a project has been awarded and accepted by a freelancer, whether the project would be completed or not, we charge them immediately for project commission fee and it is nonrefundable. Applying fees according to this process is stated in Section 4 of our Terms of Service, which you agreed with upon voluntarily registering your account on our site.

That means that the workers are paying Freelancer to harbor scammers.

...We suggest that you continue contacting your employer to resolve this issue... basically we just provide the portal where employers and freelancers meet to do projects and subsequent payments and whatever is the outcome of the project will rely solely on the hands of the employer and freelancer and we will not be able to intervene on it in any way possible.

I did contact the client numerous times, and he refused to answer me after the above mentioned email, so what now? I lose money, the client gets away with scamming me out of a job, and Freelancer does nothing. The way I see it is, we are taking all the risk, and Freelancer is taking all the money. Sure some workers get paid, but of late, especially since they've acquired Rent a Coder/VWorker, its gotten worse, and there are more "freelancer scam" reviews than ever.

The company takes advantage of workers who are oftentimes in a bad way, and they do so knowing almost none of us have neither the resolve nor the funds to fight them and because of that, the company continues to get away with it - legally. That was the second and last time I used the site, which is fine because I have such a great following from ODesk, I don't need them - I don't have to fight for half a penny a word jobs either, and ODesk will help if there is a problem, as they have before when a client didn't pay.
 
Hi Mladen

I looked into your employer. He was a fraudulent from Jordan that used stolen credit cards which were charged back.

Regards
Matt

Thanks Mr. Barrie,

So, he's a fraud and that's it? Guaranteed contests without any guarantee. I understand...
This will happen again and again (not to me for sure), and that's the reason why I'll never work on Freelancer anymore.
If maybe someday someone from Freelancer decide to bring me my contest prize back, maybe I'll consider to return at Freelancer...till then, I'm at 99designs.

As you can see by bunch of complains your website has an awful repute Mr. Barrie.

Thank you once again for your answer.

Regards,

Mladen
 
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Ahh Really MATT ? Addressing of the issues is not the solution.

I asked you once you answered my question is

""Dear Matt, Again you caught because tell me one thing if it was a invalid project than why you allow it to be posted ? I know you don't have the answer but I have i.e , you guys allowed that posted because that was a "featured project " and you guys get much fee so you don't worry about it that its a valid or invalid project because you guys getting money by posting that. So you guys just allow to post that project and get your fee and later on reverse the payment. So this way you get your money and eat others money as well. So double profit. Lolzz And Matt sir whats your answer over my first issue of $800 that was a valid project I think. I am quite sure, you cant satisfied even one single member here.I am challenging you if you can. Thanks for the OP to open such thread and thanks for the community to bring him here. ""

Above was my real question that why invalid project posted there and deleted once I ask to withdraw in like after 2 months ? And why you refund without letting me know about the issue , I will provide the proofs ?

Do you have answer ?
 
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1. May 2012: Kent launches article criticizing the company. The article gets high spot on google.

2. Autumn 2012: man introducing himself as Matt Barrie starts email communication with Kent (highly probable because Kent was able to hit company's SEO). There go poor excuses etc. Of course Kent's opinion about the company is not changed.

the fun starts here:
3. Begining of November 2012: Freelancer files complaint against Kent to his hosting company. The excuse was: copyright infringement! Thing was that Kent used company's small logo as one of many illustrations there. There was no polite request or official warning - Freelancer wanted his article dead at all costs.
4. November 2012: Kent recieves cease & desist note from the company. Accusation: defacement.
 
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7 months fight with freelancer support ended now thanks to matt but it still doesnt change the fact that freelancer is going in a wrong direction
 
IMHO a good CEO would not be wasting his time trying to fix a handful of issues on a thread like this. He should empower his support team to fix issues like this before things hit the fan. He should himself be concentrating on fixing his system instead. It needs serious re-engineering. Fix the disease, not the symptoms Mr. Barrie.
 
Hi Eried

Re/ 2671139 it's still "active". On our site "closed" means "awarded". You can still pay against it.

I credited you $20 for your learning mistakes.

Regards
Matt


Hey solidsnake, You can remove the payment contract every time :)



Wow! thanks for the answer. My username is the same "eried"

I am sure it is part of the learning process, but maybe you have the power to fix something in my account, hahaha because I think I will never have the credits needed to chat directly with you thru the awards bonus:

-Can you delete project 2671139 ? It is an old project, already paid but in the import process got screwed, employer and I try to contract support but they say we have to re-award the project and re-pay the fees to cleanly finish it because there are some money pending for me inside (what is nonsense because I already received all in vWorker!).

The 20 usd lost I count are because 4080180 (my mistake, employer never created a milestone and I trusted him, so worked for free) and 4078084 (it was a cloned project, employed was unsure about how freelancer work and I got fees charged). But I don't really feel these as a loss, more like as a learning. But if you can fix that other one, my completion % will rise finally to 100%!
 
Writer, sorry to hear about your experience. If you report these employers either through the "report" link on their profile or emailing support, our marketplace operations team will look at their account and if we see they are abusing the system and cheating freelancers we will close their account.
 
Why not?

IMHO a good CEO would not be wasting his time trying to fix a handful of issues on a thread like this. He should empower his support team to fix issues like this before things hit the fan. He should himself be concentrating on fixing his system instead. It needs serious re-engineering. Fix the disease, not the symptoms Mr. Barrie.
 
It happened to me also, I contacted them and they said you should have read freelance TOS upon taking different services.

That Suck!!!!!!!!! who read TOS
 
Hi Eried

Re/ 2671139 it's still "active". On our site "closed" means "awarded". You can still pay against it.

I credited you $20 for your learning mistakes.

Regards
Matt

Thanks again! I will not fall in any trick anymore :cool:
 
Matt,

since it seems you are affiliated with freelancer.com, can you please answer me why you guys have been withdrawing funds from my paypal/credit card, even after i deleted them from your "verified payment sources"...i deleted them for this reason, but it still doesn't stop, the worst thing is that there is no records of this under your "transaction history" it seems you guys are just taking these funds out of my paypal/credit card for fun, can you please address this as it has become real annoying....eventhough is small funds ($3, $5,$20, etc.) that has been taken out every now and then, it all adds up....please let me know.

username:joxnard805

thanks in advance
 
I'd rather not deal with the cut and paste support system again, but I'm PMing you that employer's ID.

Writer, sorry to hear about your experience. If you report these employers either through the "report" link on their profile or emailing support, our marketplace operations team will look at their account and if we see they are abusing the system and cheating freelancers we will close their account.
 
being top 1% on elance in sales and marketing i gave freelancer 2 months try with 0 projects one.

i mean, i do a lot of social media management and adwords and also media buys.
but while on elance...things are good...on freelancer the average bid is like 10 times lower.

i live in an Eastern European country and still can't understand how some can work for less than $5/hour.

and most of the jobs are just spammy..."give me 1mil likes for $1" :)
i mean...it's like retards (because they don't respect their worth and ask for a shitty pay) doing projects for retards who think social media is who has more likes not realizing that they are bots and that it won't help their business in any way.

that's how i see things.

@mattbarrie curios about your view on the quality of jobs and people on the site.
 
joxnard562 said:
Matt,

since it seems you are affiliated with freelancer, can you please answer me why you guys have been withdrawing funds from my paypal/credit card, even after i deleted them from your "verified payment sources"...i deleted them for this reason, but it still doesn't stop, the worst thing is that there is no records of this under your "transaction history" it seems you guys are just taking these funds out of my paypal/credit card for fun, can you please address this as it has become real annoying....eventhough is small funds ($3, $5,$20, etc.) that has been taken out every now and then, it all adds up....please let me know.

username:joxnard805

thanks in advance

Hey, what these charges say in the finance tab? I have some fears too about this, so I always unlink my paypal from profile (go to paypal, profile, my money, preapproved payments)

being top 1% on elance in sales and marketing i gave freelancer 2 months try with 0 projects one.

i mean, i do a lot of social media management and adwords and also media buys.
but while on elance...things are good...on freelancer the average bid is like 10 times lower.

i live in an Eastern European country and still can't understand how some can work for less than $5/hour.

and most of the jobs are just spammy..."give me 1mil likes for $1" :)
i mean...it's like retards (because they don't respect their worth and ask for a shitty pay) doing projects for retards who think social media is who has more likes not realizing that they are bots and that it won't help their business in any way.

that's how i see things.

I am in south america, but I noticed the same (Even for here some bids are ridiculous, I don't do any writing or so, mainly just programming/scripts but even in my field I remember for example one guy asking for someone to design an electronic device and build&ship 20 of these for 300 usd, of course these guys end with a fake worker losing fees)

To avoid any trouble I decided to not accept any job without a milestone already created and only accept these ones where the employer answer. I am feeling that will go nicely :D
 
Hey, what these charges say in the finance tab? I have some fears too about this, so I always unlink my paypal from profile (go to paypal, profile, my money, preapproved payments)

Funny thing there is nothing in the finance tab mentioning these charges, i unlink paypal from freelancer when this started happening, but now they get from my credit card, even after i delete credit card from file. I talked to support and they said they charge .30 + 2.30% on top of whatever i deposit, and i know this because it states it at the time of the deposit into freelancer, i deposit $104.20 and they took out $106.90, which i agree with, but then the following 2 days they took out $8.21 and today $3.19, and i dont know where these fees are coming from?
 
From some project? or Award? or Milestone? What paypal operation says?

You need to unlink paypal from Paypal, not from freelancer.
 
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