Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread
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gb5000
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This isn't normal, I just sent you a PM with my skype id and if you agree I can have a look.
Thank you
Again, and I repeat myslef... competiton is and always will be out there. Sites and security modules are changing constantly.
Now to get back to what you are saying regarding Captcha Sniper and decap servicesand i can compare that :
Did the guys who invented the radio get out of business because somebody invented television? ...i don't think so.
Regarding your question about google..... this can be discussed as they are the only ones who control what they are doing.
My point is, they released the panda update and there was a big wave around it. Did this end Internet Marketing for users here at BHW....no, everyone just adapted to it and many are back in business at the point where they where before.
Same thing about recaptcha, they keep updating it and as you see Xrumer goes along, I don't see any big reason why we won't go along as well
I KNOW YOU GUYS DON"T WANT TO HEAR THIS, BUT.........
andreyg13, with all due respect bro, your opinion on this matter is a bit bias since, as is obvious here, your on the positive side of that wave. If you guys do happen to crack recaptcha, and can sustain it, you'll benefit financially from that shift.
So ofcourse your gonna set the glass HALF FULL, as your the one selling the software, but you are NOT the one being effected by the CAUSE-EFFECT nature of your software. You WANT it to spread, thats a given (without it being cracked)!!
Hopefully I can say this in confidence but we, the IM'er's who have been in the game A LONG time, who are actually in the field DEPENDING ON INCOME FROM THINGS USING MARKETING TACTICS ALONE, tend to views things like this with a pro/con mindset.
Xrumers update is not solving at more then 30% last I heard, and if google does another surprise update, they will also be going back to the drawing board.
But, as I beleive I explained in another post, Xrumer is a TOTALLY different situation then Captcha Sniper, as Xrumer only serves to break captchas for the functions used within its software.
CS breaks captchas for ANY software using ANY function. Again, that a SHITLOAD of a much bigger market share then what Xrumer is claiming. Because you can use any software with CS, and trying to make it multi-threaded as well, your basically building an entire new market while at the same time eliminating captcha costs with your price point across the board.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND:
-This will cause a huge shift away from captcha human solvers (they lose jobs, you make a shitton of money! LOSE-WIN)
-This will cause captchas to DECREASE IN VALUE (Account sellers who sell accounts related to captcha solving will have to lower price/buy your software to "keep up", cheaper accounts=cheaper service=more competitors=lower profits, you make a shit ton more money! LOSE-WIN)
-This will make links/accounts/everything else related to ONLY USING CAPTCHAS DECREASE IN VAULE, and make us have to work harder against NEW COMPETITION in order to keep up! You make a shit ton of money!
Your the shovel seller to the gold rushers! We gradually lose over time, you keep winning until a competitor shows up...
Or google does something to completely screw it up....
You are selling a dream if you think something of magnitude like the software your selling, if kept functional overtime, will have no effect on the market.
Most guys who are buying your software now or in the future are not thinking this far down the road. More then likely they are thinking of the immediate benefits and not the long term consequences!
Regardless of how you slice it, there is a ton of BAD that comes with the equally ton of GOOD your software would do. And People should know the other side of the story.
Yes, before you say anything, I know there is already spam on these forums because of decap. and other services. But the price per captcha is what keep thats somewhat controlled to the level it is now (if it wasn't about price, then people wouldn't be trying to buy your software. You know this, I know this). But if that ever becomes FREE, it will be HELL for webmasters across the web. It was the reason Recaptcha was made (acquired is the correct term) in the first place. Not to necessarily stop spammers, they know they can't do that. But to atleast control it.
Its this control that creates the market we use today!
So while I do think you and mike will try to do what the Xrumer guys are doing, rest assured that if CS causes more spam and google's recapchers name is dragged in the mud in the process because of angry webmasters,
the cause of free captchas effect will cause those google boys to something.......
More then likely, do something that is harder to crack then the current recaptcha itself...
AND HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF!!!!
Everyone wants to ride without paying the price. I'm pointing out the real price of widespread use of CS with recap implemented above a certain solve rate.
BUT, in the spirit of capitalism, do you thing!
P.S.-I'm sorry guys, I know you want this to be a sales thread, but this is a reply to the OP's reply to a statement I made earlier replying to another poster who posted a similar concern as I had. I apologize in advance if any of you take offense of this thread going into a discussion because of my replys!
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andreyg13
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Did you follow all instructions pointed out in our guide?
If yes, please send me a PM with your skype id and I will have a look and help you out
With all the respect I don't think that my opinion is bias because of me beeing on the positive side. I am just saying that competition was and will always be there and as mentioned many many times, things will always change.
And again I say, compare 10 years ago with what is now.
Search engines have to adapt to the market and so do we, the IM'ers.... and yes I am also an IM'er and I had to change tactics many times along the way, exactly like everybody here and this is why i think that my opinion isn't bias
Take Scrapebox for example. It is an awsome tool which opened a new page for blog commenting. Are you using it?
Because I don't beleive you are not using any tools if you are an IM'er
Because if you are using, with all the respect but you are also a spammer... regardless if it's email, forums, blogs...... in the end we are all spammers, aren't we?
Now, back to your point about decap services, many people used them until now, it was indeed a bit more expensive than a one time payment, but for example:
SEO Service ...builds.... 40k links /day....using....Decap service
SEO Service ...builds.... 80k links/day ....using....Captcha Sniper?
The amount will be the same, and as much as a tool can post.
Same deal with all tools which are not ment for SEO and have the option to use decap services. Who used them at full speed before will use them at the same level with Captcha Sniper.
What you are talking about is that it becomes available to the average user who doesn't have the funds to use Decap Services. This is another Story, and here we are talking about the average user who is offering a smaller service and doesn't calculate his revenue in that way that it covers his decap costs or he doesn't want to pay too much for it.
And this is just an example which I am giving for users who offer services not for personal use.
Anyways, this blade has 2 handles and everyone is free to look at it from it's own point of view and also speak his mind.
As mentioned above, I really don't think this will affect the market anymore than Decap services have done so far.
So please, If you wish to debate the current Market and to predict howtools and everything will change the way everything works at this point, please open up a debate thread and I will be more than happy to speak my mind.
But at his point I beleive we have a bigger enemy to worry about and that would be SOPA and The Protect ip ACT!
Please send me your skype id via PM and I'll be more than glad to help you out
adventurouslover
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Who doesn't feel comfortable in Capitalism and its effects, should stop doing IM and move to CUBA!
With that said: I just paid for it
With that said: I just paid for it
andreyg13
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What type of captcha is kw scout using? (I would guess Google captcha which is not available at the moment)
does it use socket or http?
Does it have decaptcher as a captcha cracking option?
In order for it to be compatible, it needs to fulfill the above mentioned conditions.
mikeybobikey
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Not yet at the moment ..
tick .... tock ... tick ... tock ...Still working with pretty much everything except the Web 2.0's which are mainly recpatcha.
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With that said ... I need a registered Captcha Sniper that uses BMD to PM me ASAP
I need some help testing something ...
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Keyword Scout will have it added soon. Yes, we use decaptcher and deathbycatpcha.
timepassblogs
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can anyone tell me host file conig for that?
we have to add decapther in host file thats it?
i use captha sniper with senuke almost 90% captha fails
we have to add decapther in host file thats it?
i use captha sniper with senuke almost 90% captha fails
mikeybobikey
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Version 1.4 only emulates the http post of decaptcher ... but .. drum roll please ... 1.5 has some cool new features included
can anyone tell me host file conig for that?
we have to add decapther in host file thats it?
i use captha sniper with senuke almost 90% captha fails
In order for Captcha Sniper to work correctly, the edit must be made Captcha Sniper and not done manually.
Are you posting to web 2.0's which is maily recaptcha? Try switching to the forum/article modules and see what you get.
mikeybobikey
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delete .. dupe post
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