[Journey] 1 million UVs/month in 12 months using AI generated content. Let's do it!

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Sartre said:
thanks :) the journey is already a success and in ~2 months I'm expecting to achieve human-level AI generated articles.
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what is in the way of achieving such level? and why 2 months?

also, can you draw a general outline of like, how you achieve human level ai content? (although not all humans created equal, there are indeed stupid humans or bad article writers :)
 
Sartre said:
thanks :) the journey is already a success and in ~2 months I'm expecting to achieve human-level AI generated articles.
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What's the idea? Finetune with much more data? Or are you going to get access to some new model?
 
I'm talking about a pretty bad writer, let's say low-level upwork $30 writer. I'm gonna try to do a little write up this week :)
 
I really think AI content today IS already at human level (whatever it may be).

The least left to do is ti earse the leftovers of ai content, like the ending of a sentence, or how it lists things, or how generally it speaks about things, all those things that cover up the fact that its ai content

i think ai is way way better at explaining or articulating really ideas than humans do, even high level writers (dont wanna exaggarate but maybe) - the first step is to earse those leftovers, i dunno if its possible really
 
Sartre said:
Hey guys I got an idea. Tell me a niche and if I like it I will make a website with 1000 articles just for fun for the sake of this thread and publish the url here :) PG-13 stuff only please ;)
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Did you make this site? Scanned through lots of pages but can't find it, maybe missed it with all the great posts which take me off topic :)
 
fasttrak said:
Did you make this site? Scanned through lots of pages but can't find it, maybe missed it with all the great posts which take me off topic :)
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I did make it but I removed it because people were going at it too hard, so to speak...
 
Super interesting read, the amount of useful info in this thread is incredible! Major props for reaching your goal.

A couple of questions for you if you don't mind:
  1. You always seem to find good libraries. Are there any sites/forums you frequent to find these or do you just happen to stumble on them?
  2. If you had to learn programming all over again, but were only interested in being able to apply it practically (i.e. you weren't fussed about having the best coding practises in the world), are there certain concepts you'd really focus on and others you'd just skim (or perhaps even skip) over? In other words, how would you strike the right balance between speed and depth of learning?
  3. Similar to above, is there a specific order you'd re-learn the different areas in (i.e. python basics -> scraping -> NLP -> ML -> DL)?
  4. What part of making your script was far easier than you thought it would be, and what part was far harder than you'd thought it be?
  5. More of a reflection than a question, but do you think this is a sign of things to come for the future of IM? I.e. that we'll reach a point where there's enough people/companies with similar type of scripts (whether self-developed or commercial) that competition will explode, almost exponentially to the point where IM suddenly becomes a lot harder?
  6. Are you not tempted to build a less aggresive version of this for your whitehat sites? Maybe a version that only creates 2 articles per day and only publishes it as a draft so you can manually review it before posting it? I'm guessing maintaining this script is introducing new stresses and pressures that you didn't have before, but interested to know where you plan to go from here.
 
Ross G said:
Super interesting read, the amount of useful info in this thread is incredible! Major props for reaching your goal.

A couple of questions for you if you don't mind:
  1. You always seem to find good libraries. Are there any sites/forums you frequent to find these or do you just happen to stumble on them?
  2. If you had to learn programming all over again, but were only interested in being able to apply it practically (i.e. you weren't fussed about having the best coding practises in the world), are there certain concepts you'd really focus on and others you'd just skim (or perhaps even skip) over? In other words, how would you strike the right balance between speed and depth of learning?
  3. Similar to above, is there a specific order you'd re-learn the different areas in (i.e. python basics -> scraping -> NLP -> ML -> DL)?
  4. What part of making your script was far easier than you thought it would be, and what part was far harder than you'd thought it be?
  5. More of a reflection than a question, but do you think this is a sign of things to come for the future of IM? I.e. that we'll reach a point where there's enough people/companies with similar type of scripts (whether self-developed or commercial) that competition will explode, almost exponentially to the point where IM suddenly becomes a lot harder?
  6. Are you not tempted to build a less aggresive version of this for your whitehat sites? Maybe a version that only creates 2 articles per day and only publishes it as a draft so you can manually review it before posting it? I'm guessing maintaining this script is introducing new stresses and pressures that you didn't have before, but interested to know where you plan to go from here.
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I would love to read the answer to these questions and the ones the other guy asked about how you're generating the articles so well and why 2 months timeline for new quality.


I'm also learning Python and building my own app would like to be at this level one day.


Following.
 
FlyFlay said:
what is in the way of achieving such level? and why 2 months?

also, can you draw a general outline of like, how you achieve human level ai content? (although not all humans created equal, there are indeed stupid humans or bad article writers :)
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i could say 2 months just because of my experience in programming. I know every line of my app.

The key to achieving human content is creating perfect, accurate prompts for the AI model, using AI or automation :)

So in a given article that has 10 h2s and each h2 has 2 paragraphs, it will consist of a general prompt for the introduction, one for the summary, and a prompt for each of the paragraph, giving 22 prompts in total, while the model lookback at the content that was already generated so that limit repetition and frequency.
ai_is_fun said:
What's the idea? Finetune with much more data? Or are you going to get access to some new model?
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I mainly explained above, but that too. I'm fine-tuning with some really cool huge sites I scraped (thinking out of the box). The company I cooperate with also gave me access to the highest tier base model. We're 100% at perfect English now, just a bit from getting the flow and the facts right.
Ross G said:
Super interesting read, the amount of useful info in this thread is incredible! Major props for reaching your goal.

A couple of questions for you if you don't mind:
  1. You always seem to find good libraries. Are there any sites/forums you frequent to find these or do you just happen to stumble on them?
  2. If you had to learn programming all over again, but were only interested in being able to apply it practically (i.e. you weren't fussed about having the best coding practises in the world), are there certain concepts you'd really focus on and others you'd just skim (or perhaps even skip) over? In other words, how would you strike the right balance between speed and depth of learning?
  3. Similar to above, is there a specific order you'd re-learn the different areas in (i.e. python basics -> scraping -> NLP -> ML -> DL)?
  4. What part of making your script was far easier than you thought it would be, and what part was far harder than you'd thought it be?
  5. More of a reflection than a question, but do you think this is a sign of things to come for the future of IM? I.e. that we'll reach a point where there's enough people/companies with similar type of scripts (whether self-developed or commercial) that competition will explode, almost exponentially to the point where IM suddenly becomes a lot harder?
  6. Are you not tempted to build a less aggresive version of this for your whitehat sites? Maybe a version that only creates 2 articles per day and only publishes it as a draft so you can manually review it before posting it? I'm guessing maintaining this script is introducing new stresses and pressures that you didn't have before, but interested to know where you plan to go from here.
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1. Just googling while solving problems. I'm doing 100% of the core programming now, my dev is just doing refactoring and stuff like that.
2. Depends on what exactly you would like to achieve. I'm assuming web automation/AI. I would go very in-depth and actually learn computer science for a year (not Python or Python at an extreme level - using typing, reading the libraries, and learning C to understand them).
3. It's really hard to say. I would learn general algorithmics for sure. Stuff like time complexity of algorithms, calculus, sorting algos in C/Java. First 2 years of comp sci uni. Btw, I have a Ph.D. in computer science.
4. Honestly, everything was easier than I thought. Once you start and go step by step, it's not that hard. We're not exactly splitting the atom here.
5. Nah, just as always, think out of the box, and you're gonna be more or less ok for the next 10 years. I would definitely lean 90% into creating video right now though if you have a budget (create a studio and create a real brand, put $100k into creating an amazing youtube/tt channel)
6. I'm doing it. I have insane cash flow right now too and I'm diversifying into a 100% white hat business that is evergreen for 5-10 years for sure - slowly marketing and building a marketplace for domain names for startups. I'm up to 400 aged domains. My goal is to get to 1000 domains by end of the year or summer, depending on how it goes. I'm buying 5-10 domains/day on auctions usually.
 
Out of curiosity, what is the minimum search volume you try to go after with your easy to rank keywords.
 
Leave my trace here, and have awesome luck with your Mediavine project.
Have super interested in getting one of the AI websites, though.
 
Sartre said:
i could say 2 months just because of my experience in programming. I know every line of my app.

The key to achieving human content is creating perfect, accurate prompts for the AI model, using AI or automation :)

So in a given article that has 10 h2s and each h2 has 2 paragraphs, it will consist of a general prompt for the introduction, one for the summary, and a prompt for each of the paragraph, giving 22 prompts in total, while the model lookback at the content that was already generated so that limit repetition and frequency.

I mainly explained above, but that too. I'm fine-tuning with some really cool huge sites I scraped (thinking out of the box). The company I cooperate with also gave me access to the highest tier base model. We're 100% at perfect English now, just a bit from getting the flow and the facts right.

1. Just googling while solving problems. I'm doing 100% of the core programming now, my dev is just doing refactoring and stuff like that.
2. Depends on what exactly you would like to achieve. I'm assuming web automation/AI. I would go very in-depth and actually learn computer science for a year (not Python or Python at an extreme level - using typing, reading the libraries, and learning C to understand them).
3. It's really hard to say. I would learn general algorithmics for sure. Stuff like time complexity of algorithms, calculus, sorting algos in C/Java. First 2 years of comp sci uni. Btw, I have a Ph.D. in computer science.
4. Honestly, everything was easier than I thought. Once you start and go step by step, it's not that hard. We're not exactly splitting the atom here.
5. Nah, just as always, think out of the box, and you're gonna be more or less ok for the next 10 years. I would definitely lean 90% into creating video right now though if you have a budget (create a studio and create a real brand, put $100k into creating an amazing youtube/tt channel)
6. I'm doing it. I have insane cash flow right now too and I'm diversifying into a 100% white hat business that is evergreen for 5-10 years for sure - slowly marketing and building a marketplace for domain names for startups. I'm up to 400 aged domains. My goal is to get to 1000 domains by end of the year or summer, depending on how it goes. I'm buying 5-10 domains/day on auctions usually.
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Such an in-depth answer. Thank you!
 
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