Content isn't KING for Google anymore

[Sunil aryan]

Interesting thread, thanks for sharing.

Following.

 

[HenryObi]

I think it has always been like this for quite a while now. I don't see the reason why anyone will just create 'quality' content and leave it to ranking hoping Google will be fair to rank it. Whitehat SEO still sell, only that you have to wait for 3 years or so, before your site will start ranking.

 

[RStar66]

I don't care about unique content anymore. I made a bot which gets image urls from reddit and posts pics on my porn wp blog. I don't even lose bandwith because images are hotlinked from reddit. I change titles for long tail keywords and create 1000 posts per day. I hope to get big organic traffic from google in next months. Even if one post will be searched in google 1 time per month, when i have 30k posts i will get 30k organic traffic/month

Yeah, don't get your hopes up. Sounds very much like you are simply wasting your time. Sure, Google doesn't pinpoint scraped and duplicated content immediately as it is posted, but their AI is pretty smart. Chances of you getting onto page 1 (in an ultra-competitive niche) with duplicate content are slim, like less than 1%.

 

[RStar66]

I love BING unistalled google let’s hope it’ll soon take over Google, and @Meddie rightly said BING is nice @bartosimpsonio won’t like it but BING is better

Bing would be great if their results were even close to as relevant as Google's. People on this forum love saying that Google's results are not relevant, but it's always in niches that are known for being spammy, like adult dating site etc. The reason those niches are flooded with spam, is because those complaining about the results are the same people creating the spam in an attempt to out-spam the other spammers. It's a giant circle of idiocy.

 

[chimatim]

I don't care about unique content anymore. I made a bot which gets image urls from reddit and posts pics on my porn wp blog. I don't even lose bandwith because images are hotlinked from reddit. I change titles for long tail keywords and create 1000 posts per day. I hope to get big organic traffic from google in next months. Even if one post will be searched in google 1 time per month, when i have 30k posts i will get 30k organic traffic/month

Can you please share the script?

 

[iki]

The problem with Google in my opinion is too many updates and different results depending on the niche. This is all made to get us confused obviously so nobody has clue what's going on. Somewhere you can see Pinterest outranking good quality article with 1500-2000w I mean wtf? Google seems is not sure what signals to favor anymore because people are trying to manipulate everything to rank higher, so one update i.e May 2020 they just say let's just put aged and highest authority domains on top, this factor is the hardest to manipulate, no matter even if the website has worse content for specific topics than someone else. And then for the best niches that are most profitable, you have media companies owned websites on top that have dozens of employees professional content writing, link building agencies that work for them, and what is left for some small and new websites - nothing. Maybe you get lucky with some keyword you might grow a few months and then drop as soon as they discover the same low competition keywords or some new update is released.

 

[StuckeYe]

Content has never been king for google. Content is king applies to the user only; for the user good content always beats everything else.

But for Google, ranking indicators are king and if you can manipulate those you’ll always come up above those who can’t. Regardless of content quality.

I like this.

 

[praetserge]

Reading ppl disregard content makes me frustrated as it goes against what I'm seeing.

For starters, the way I see it, adult sites' SEO is inherently different from family-friendly sites' SEO. So there's that. Then there's the family-friendly sites' content itself... Has any one of you seen one without any content? Sounds dumb, but such a site doesn't really exist (if any1's seen one, do share, I insist!). So dumbfoundedly true it makes you think it must be a fallacy of some sort. There are simply a lot of nuances.


What do people mean by "content" anyway? A singular post ("optimized") for 1 keyword one found using a keyword research tool? oof...

Easy... here's an example which popped into my head first. Search for "email", the results don't have much content and login.one.com/mail is on the first page of google with 0 content and "No information is available for this page." as a description.
There are lots of examples like this.

 

[blackbeans]

Given how DEEP Rankbrain is, maybe Google's ranking priorities can be summed up differently:
USER VALUE IS KING

 

[RStar66]

Given how DEEP Rankbrain is, maybe Google's ranking priorities can be summed up differently:
USER VALUE IS KING

This guy gets it.

 

[Thulf]

Easy... here's an example which popped into my head first. Search for "email", the results don't have much content and login.one.com/mail is on the first page of google with 0 content and "No information is available for this page." as a description.
There are lots of examples like this.

Appreciate the effort, but "email" gives me the the corresponding type of content. Were you expecting to rank for it by writing an article on it? Given the premise the outcome is appropriate.

The example is invalid (no offence).

 

[dekadent30]

Yeah, don't get your hopes up. Sounds very much like you are simply wasting your time. Sure, Google doesn't pinpoint scraped and duplicated content immediately as it is posted, but their AI is pretty smart. Chances of you getting onto page 1 (in an ultra-competitive niche) with duplicate content are slim, like less than 1%.

You don't understand me. I use 0 competitors longtail keywords i discovered by accident. I am sure that people search for such keywords. Not often, maybe once a month , maybe 2, but when i have 30k posts with such keywords - there is a big chance to get 30k-60k organic traffic/month. All i need is to be indexed to rank 1. If you make post with unique title that has 0 results in google - you will be 1st in google when your post gets indexed

 

[praetserge]

Has any one of you seen one without any content? Sounds dumb, but such a site doesn't really exist

Appreciate the effort, but "email" gives me the the corresponding type of content. Were you expecting to rank for it by writing an article on it? Given the premise the outcome is appropriate.

The example is invalid (no offence).

I gave you an example... so you just contradict yourself with your moaning and rant.
No offense but I gave you ONE site without content as per your request.

 

[RStar66]

I gave you an example... so you just contradict yourself with your moaning and rant.
No offense but I gave you ONE site without content as per your request.

To be honest, your example was pretty crap. Because all four of the top results when I Googled "email" clearly had content. And you stated that the pages ranking for it has no content. So uhh.. yeah.

 

[Thulf]

I gave you an example... so you just contradict yourself with your moaning and rant.
No offense but I gave you ONE site without content as per your request.

You're implying that if I created a new random site and didn't write a single word on it, it would rank for the word "email". Now if I wrote about or created an email system on that site, I'd be the first one to do so and rank 1st because apparently gmail, outlook, yahoo, etc (whichever shows up is probably based on what the searcher uses the most if searched with personal computer) are not email systems nor do they talk about anything related to emails. The only site with content about email is Wikipedia, but it's not the first result.

I think we're simply not on the same page on what "content" is referring to on the web.

 

[sm0k3d]

Content IS king...

why? Because users will keep coming back. Over the years, the best things that have worked for me (long term sites for businesses) is quality content that keeps users returning to my site. The more content I had, the more visitors I would get, and the higher I would rank.

Pages, articles from 500 works to 3000 words, videos, etc. Content that would informative/fun

Part of google's algo is definitely how many people/repeat people are going to your site, and I believe that it is a high scale

 

[Lechoker]

I don't know who came up with the non sense that is content is king.

Backlink is king because it is the number one ranking factor. You won't get much further without backlinks.

That is sad but true.

 

[Evadavcom]

This is not sad, this is reality and it will not work otherwise

 

[TheEnginner]

Spam index is king of kings , but people are to novice to understand the real power of it.

What is Spam index please?

 

[BrandingCat]

What is Spam index please?

Hundreds of thousands of generated pages.