Suggest your opinion on Programming Languages used for Web Development

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xlighter

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Okay guys here is the thing. Is it necessary to be a full stack developer in order to design a good website or is it just enough to know selective languages in order to develop a good one? Please let me know which languages is a must to learn and why... you can share your experience here.
 
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Take each language as a tool to build a website so it depends entirely on what u are building and why are u building it, and yes its necessary to be a full stack if u want to build a website without help but u can always become a front-end or back-end developer and get help from someone else to build
the things that u don´t know

Here´s a useful link to know what languages go well together https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution_stack

If u want to build a simple website or an ecommerce just use one of the CMS available (WP,Magento, etc) there´s no point to build a barebones simple webpage or ecommerce for a small company while u can do the same with a CMS in hours.

In case that u plan to build complex webpages just pick the best "solution stack" that fits your needs.
 
If you don't want to learn multiple language for frontend and backend, best way to go about this is to pick JavaScript.

First learn es6+ syntax.

Pick ReactJs as your frontend. EpressJs as your backend. MongoDB as your database.

Now you are a full-stack developer.
 
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If you don't want to learn multiple language for frontend and backend, best way to go about this is to pick JavaScript.

First learn es6+ syntax.

Pick ReactJs as your frontend. EpressJs as your backend. MongoDB as your database.

Now you are a full-stack developer.
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erm no, javascript is a horrible language. there are better ways to build sites without using stupid bloated js frameworks ;)
 
Another option learn c# , C# in asp.net core for backend + c# in blazor for front end + c# linq to deal with the database through entity framework.

all pure c# .



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If you don't want to learn multiple language for frontend and backend, best way to go about this is to pick JavaScript.

First learn es6+ syntax.

Pick ReactJs as your frontend. EpressJs as your backend. MongoDB as your database.

Now you are a full-stack developer.
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itz_styx said:
erm no, javascript is a horrible language. there are better ways to build sites without using stupid bloated js frameworks ;)
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Lol. I can write a multiple essays on why you are wrong. But i've decided not to waste my energy on arguments over internet :)

I'll just list out some sites that uses React in production.
Facebook,
Netflix,
Reddit,
AirBnb
Paypal

Funny, how billion dollar companies have chosen React and Node when you say it is horrible and bloated.
 
xlighter said:
Okay guys here is the thing. Is it necessary to be a full stack developer in order to design a good website or is it just enough to know selective languages in order to develop a good one? Please let me know which languages is a must to learn and why... you can share your experience here.
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Ok, here it goes; and you won't like it.

You have to know what you are doing, to make a cool looking one.


Do not segment yourself with one. You could perfectly use nodeJS + Mongo + react and make a perfect looking site. That way, you could get away just with a frontend technology (not mongo, technically.. but,, use a file if you want to.. meh).... But I bet, you will make a shit site if you are asking what I quoted. Try, fail, keep trying. One day you will get there.

itz_styx said:
erm no, javascript is a horrible language. there are better ways to build sites without using stupid bloated js frameworks ;)
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Errrmm.. It works though. I know you like sockets but.. .. ermm.. You don't have a choice, atleast for the frontend. Don't say webassembly please dude, I respect you. :p

Also, JS != frameworks
 
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itz_styx said:
erm no, javascript is a horrible language. there are better ways to build sites without using stupid bloated js frameworks ;)
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JS definitely have its spot .. Our devs loves php within laravel
 
Gogol said:
Errrmm.. It works though. I know you like sockets but.. .. ermm.. You don't have a choice, atleast for the frotnend. Don't say webassembly please dude, I respect you. :p

Also, JS != frameworks
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I think the whole misconception about JavaScript comes from 2006-2012 (jQuery) mindset. These guys aren't upto date. Like I am not upto date with PHP. My first impression with PHP was horrible. And it is hard to change that impression no matter how hard I try lol.
 
CyberHour said:
JS definitely have its spot .. Our devs loves php within laravel
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Laravel = Good.
PHP = evil (but I love this evil hehe) :D
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I think the whole misconception about JavaScript comes from 2006-2012 (jQuery) mindset. These guys aren't upto date. Like I am not upto date with PHP. My first impression with PHP was horrible. And it is hard to change that impression no matter how hard I try lol.
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Exactly. JS still isn't a strongly typed language, but it is not what it used to be. I really do hope people give it another try. Man, I am loving it like anything recently.
 
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Lol. I can write a multiple essays on why you are wrong. But i've decided not to waste my energy on arguments over internet :)

I'll just list out some sites that uses React in production.
Facebook,
Netflix,
Reddit,
AirBnb
Paypal

Funny, how billion dollar companies have chosen React and Node when you say it is horrible and bloated.
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instead of getting into an argument here are a few good reasons why it sucks: https://whydoesitsuck.com/why-does-javascript-suck/ ;)
 
Depends on your needs, if you want to build a webshop for example i would recommend you to not try to develop it on your own and just stick with a cms like wordpress.

But if you really want to build a custom site/plugin I would recommend you to learn HTML and CSS first and after that PHP/JavaScript, PHP for server side things like working with databases. Wordpress runs on PHP for example
 
i could list tons of reasons too why js sucks, but why if someone already wrote it all down.
not going to start to list them all myself. javascript is horrible and stupid, but we have to use it sometimes, however that doesnt mean its any good. its just what we are stuck with for now if it comes to webdev.
the more stupid frameworks that come out with it and the more some of the industry is demanding it, will keep the web poisoned with this crap for a while.
its slow, the performance sucks and many things are just plain retarded in a programming language.. well its not really a programming language anyways its a scripting langauge but yea.. its still a big pile of crap. and whoever says C/C++ is crap needs to shut up as basically everything thats any good is based on these languages. dennis ritchie left us a great language and we should appreciate his efforts.
 
itz_styx said:
dennis ritchie left us a great language and we should appreciate his efforts.
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With all due respect, dennis ritche left us. We are still living. Yepp, I read his book to start my programming career. Does not mean anything.

From your reply it seems like you have not tried JS for a while. Yeah, it might still be bad. Try the new JS though. I don't know why you hate JS, but it will probably change. Even if not, you will realise that you HAVE TO USE JS IN THE FRONTEND. WEB ASSEMBLY DID NOT PICK UP. Lol. VB SCRIPT? I BET MR GATES DOES NOT USE IT IN HIS TOILET EVEN. :D
 
VSYNC said:
95% through having a site built with MERN.. kicks ass, such a good stack.
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Nt sure about that 95% value though. :D
MERN works, agreed. It's not the most beautiful one, but it sure does work.
 
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