no point in buying views anymore, do it yourself

[Russ Thomas]

What's up guys I hope everything is going well.
Iv'e came to the conclusion that it's time to do youtube views, likes, comments and all that jazz yourself.
Many labels and big channels have databases of 10's and thousands of accounts specifically for their niche which engage heavily on their videos, thus getting it into the suggested algorithm.
This isnt just for youtube, but for basically every social media platform.
I feel like buying views and engagements is becoming more and more difficulty since the algorithms of social media is really starting to favor initial user engagements.
This basically means is, if you have 1k subscribers, how many of them actually watch your video? How many of them like it? How many comment?
It makes 0 sense buying 10k views and likes when less than 10% of your subscribers engage with your content.
Basically what im saying is, you need to start investing in yourself rather than outsourcing, because in the long run its really only going to damage you.
If you buy engagements from microworkers its not a good idea, why? Because those same people who engage with your video are doing the same with 100s of other niches, and this creates confusion and spam like behavior thus not giving accurate or should I say appropriate information for where the algorithm would suggest your content.
Im not going to sit here and act like i have over 10k accounts ready to do this. I literally have like 100, but with only 100 accounts, im already getting my video ranked for medium and high competitive keywords.
Theres so much more that I can discuss, but i dont want to give you guys a complex reading all of this lol.

 

[preXero]

Very good point and the platforms will only get smarter.

 

[incription]

What an valid point, I totally Agree with you.

 

[proxygo]

been saying it for years, put time into your product
and views will come. panels and views where ok
a few yrs ago, now there a dying breed to find a
decent one.

 

[ThomasGibb]

Nice share I partially agree with you on this buddy!

 

[FatBee]

Its a well known think that you can rank with 100 to 200 accounts which are actually bots but engage with every video you upload. It might be me, but im lazy to do all the work.

 

[web_i]

been saying it for years, put time into your product
and views will come. panels and views where ok
a few yrs ago, now there a dying breed to find a
decent one.

Hard to find a good one nowadays that don’t drop either. I’ve wasted so much money on panels.

 

[Mr Positive]

Very true but not all are motivated to follow it up

 

[Cyberars]

it sounds like a lot of manual work... but good luck!

 

[sothisisnightlife]

Even buying google ads work really well. Sure it doesn't help with ranking but I gained quite a lot of subscribers and increased engagement on my channel.

 

[proxygo]

Hard to find a good one nowadays that don’t drop either. I’ve
wasted so much money on panels.

thats why i say, save the money - do it yourself.

 

[Russ Thomas]

Even buying google ads work really well. Sure it doesn't help with ranking but I gained quite a lot of subscribers and increased engagement on my channel.

Ads are great for certain brands like music. If you have a song, then ads views are great for getting new people to your music. But for niches like gaming and stuff like that, running ads can come off as spam like

 

[HustleTong]

Can't getaway with YT.
WH is the way to go.

 

[Russ Thomas]

Can't getaway with YT.
WH is the way to go.

I agree with this. But at the same time, this works. And for me being able to rank for competitive keywords with a channel that was created 2 weeks ago says something XD. This shouldn't be a all or nothing approach, but simply to give your videos and channel some authority and information for the algorithm. Great content and hard work is required or youll never go anywhere. This is simply the best way to manipulate without wasting any money from smm panels.

 

[nobrainsnoragrets]

What's up guys I hope everything is going well.
Iv'e came to the conclusion that it's time to do youtube views, likes, comments and all that jazz yourself.
Many labels and big channels have databases of 10's and thousands of accounts specifically for their niche which engage heavily on their videos, thus getting it into the suggested algorithm.
This isnt just for youtube, but for basically every social media platform.
I feel like buying views and engagements is becoming more and more difficulty since the algorithms of social media is really starting to favor initial user engagements.
This basically means is, if you have 1k subscribers, how many of them actually watch your video? How many of them like it? How many comment?
It makes 0 sense buying 10k views and likes when less than 10% of your subscribers engage with your content.
Basically what im saying is, you need to start investing in yourself rather than outsourcing, because in the long run its really only going to damage you.
If you buy engagements from microworkers its not a good idea, why? Because those same people who engage with your video are doing the same with 100s of other niches, and this creates confusion and spam like behavior thus not giving accurate or should I say appropriate information for where the algorithm would suggest your content.
Im not going to sit here and act like i have over 10k accounts ready to do this. I literally have like 100, but with only 100 accounts, im already getting my video ranked for medium and high competitive keywords.
Theres so much more that I can discuss, but i dont want to give you guys a complex reading all of this lol.

Been thinking about doing this, and I've got like 2 main idea to pull it off. I just lack the initial funds to get started.

1. Gather people (through fb, then let them recruit their friends).
- Gather all in fb group chat and provide instructions.
- Process is the same, they sub to your channel, watch your new vid uploads, comment, like, and share to their fb accounts.(entire process should be recorded on their phone and will be submitted to you)
- It's more like microworkers, but you'll be directly working with them. You can make a deal that they only need to do this for your 5 videos, then you pay them with an agreed price. You may target t3 countries for a much cheaper price.

2. Device farm from Free Trials + Youtube subs app.
- Just an idea but never got the chance to read more or study about it.
- With amazon aws, they provide a device farm service. This is for app developers to test their new apps if it's compatible with all devices.
- With this device farm, you'll get a chance to run your new app with different phone models, and I believe each phone will have different IP? Not sure though.
- Create the youtube app that will autoplay your videos.
- And that's it. Use device farms, then test your app which would view the vid.

 

[Russ Thomas]

Been thinking about doing this, and I've got like 2 main idea to pull it off. I just lack the initial funds to get started.

1. Gather people (through fb, then let them recruit their friends).
- Gather all in fb group chat and provide instructions.
- Process is the same, they sub to your channel, watch your new vid uploads, comment, like, and share to their fb accounts.(entire process should be recorded on their phone and will be submitted to you)
- It's more like microworkers, but you'll be directly working with them. You can make a deal that they only need to do this for your 5 videos, then you pay them with an agreed price. You may target t3 countries for a much cheaper price.

2. Device farm from Free Trials + Youtube subs app.
- Just an idea but never got the chance to read more or study about it.
- With amazon aws, they provide a device farm service. This is for app developers to test their new apps if it's compatible with all devices.
- With this device farm, you'll get a chance to run your new app with different phone models, and I believe each phone will have different IP? Not sure though.
- Create the youtube app that will autoplay your videos.
- And that's it. Use device farms, then test your app which would view the vid.

This is a really good plan! Initial funds are always the hardest part, that's why I'm only working with 100 accounts at. For the groups idea that's really good, but what I would do is work with people who are close to you or at least people who are as dedicated as you. I'm definitely going to check out that device farms, that seems like a really great idea. I wonder what the investment would look like for running 5-10 phones. Another cool idea would to be buy 5-10 cheap smartphone and then just buy sim cards for each of them.

 

[leon dwitt]

This is a really good plan! Initial funds are always the hardest part, that's why I'm only working with 100 accounts at. For the groups idea that's really good, but what I would do is work with people who are close to you or at least people who are as dedicated as you. I'm definitely going to check out that device farms, that seems like a really great idea. I wonder what the investment would look like for running 5-10 phones. Another cool idea would to be buy 5-10 cheap smartphone and then just buy sim cards for each of them.

But the real question will the hardwork and money spent, will give you 10k-100k video views such that you are able to grow your channel?

 

[sothisisnightlife]

But the real question will the hardwork and money spent, will give you 10k-100k video views such that you are able to grow your channel?

It definetely won't provide that many views, the whole point is trying to increase real engagement on the channel. The problem though is investing in your own method is extemely expensive, if you get it wrong or if there is an update that effects you in a few months, you just wasted a lot of time and money. Thats why 99% of people who try give up before they even start.

 

[beastkay]

So you going to use those 100 accounts of the same niche and use proxies and give fake views, likes and comments to push your vid to suggested algorigthm?

 

[nobrainsnoragrets]

This is a really good plan! Initial funds are always the hardest part, that's why I'm only working with 100 accounts at. For the groups idea that's really good, but what I would do is work with people who are close to you or at least people who are as dedicated as you. I'm definitely going to check out that device farms, that seems like a really great idea. I wonder what the investment would look like for running 5-10 phones. Another cool idea would to be buy 5-10 cheap smartphone and then just buy sim cards for each of them.

You don't really need to spend anything to use their service. You can use a free amazon aws account, and test the device farms. You may check this link https://aws.amazon.com/device-farm/.

As for the 100 accounts that you have, is it really effective in ranking your videos? Do you have access to those accounts and use it manually, or let the owners do the views for you?