Apps journey to 2k/day within a year

[sweeside]

nice thread, sir. I've been working as android reverse engineer for 2 years. Can u please tell me whether you've tried to patch apks and upload them instead of creating your own app with copypasting jadx output. This first method seems to work faster

Patching will give you very similar code, proper reskin and obfuscation not possible.

 

[WarlordYT]

http://prntscr.com/r6hevl

i cant fix any further stuck here ..... most are some variable problem how to fix these?

 

[sweeside]

i cant fix any further stuck here ..... most are some variable problem how to fix these?

Where does the method call occure? i think the signature is wrong, it is suppose to return String

How much time (maybe how many hours) did you spent to learn that?


How do you earn on freelance (Upwork or something else)? Do you create apps too?

How much is middle earning with white hat method on apps, which can do everybody? I know it depends on a lot of factors. But what can you advise? Could you please share some tips?

The first app was a famous app with 500m installs, and it took me more than a month, but i was lazy, and it only had one bug or two when it was finished. The second full re work took me more than 8 hours, i almost gave up, and then i gave it one last go and it worked, it taught me the secret is not ever quiting, knowing its possible however exhausting. It will become easier through time, you will have scripts and know the fastest routes. Its been almost a year since i started this. Yeah upwork and fiverr, yeah its software related work. I have no idea about the average earning but most people earn nothing, but the sky is the limit, and i whoelheartedly believe that, if you have got the necessities.

My only tip is just: find the right niche

Ofc there's details but you already know that those are, once you have the right niche and find some good traffic you will worry about the rest. Thats what i think.

I have 2-3 apps in play store but even after getting one of my app to rank at 2nd position for the keyword. I am only getting less than 50 installs per day? Apps are related to programming tutorials. The others are also struggling to get good installs per day. Any suggestions which can increase Installs which doesn't cost me very high money to promote in google ads etc.?

I say programming tutorials is a useless niche, drop it, too low number of target geo, but it might work for some basic income with t1 countries. I would target niches with very big following, for instance religion

I gave you that tip cause its related to your programming niche, programmers are too few imo but i am not 100% sure. I suggest you find the right niche before spending money on google ads, if you have a remotely good niche the google ads will boost it easily

UPDATE:
Small update, the first admob limit has been lifted! Haha it happened right after the second admob was limited, i think admob also limits when it encounters unusual surge of traffic, i added a second interstiitals placement remotely the previous day

Earnings fluctuating around 50-100/day

 

[dkv023]

I learned java with books such as java for dummies, headfirst java and the official java tutorials and did some practice projects, also codingbat exercises. I learned android with Big nerd ranch book and also did practices

How much time (maybe how many hours) did you spent to learn that?

Been busy with freelance work.

How do you earn on freelance (Upwork or something else)? Do you create apps too?

How much is middle earning with white hat method on apps, which can do everybody? I know it depends on a lot of factors. But what can you advise? Could you please share some tips?

 

[beautifulcode]

I have 2-3 apps in play store but even after getting one of my app to rank at 2nd position for the keyword. I am only getting less than 50 installs per day? Apps are related to programming tutorials. The others are also struggling to get good installs per day. Any suggestions which can increase Installs which doesn't cost me very high money to promote in google ads etc.?

 

[sweeside]

How much time (maybe how many hours) did you spent to learn that?

Sorry i misunderstood this message, i have already replied in my previous message. But learning basic programming and android took me 3 months and then after that i did some small projects for self and school mates, for about 4 extra months before starting on a big project which taught me alot of things on general programming and android and it lasted about a year.

I have 2-3 apps in play store but even after getting one of my app to rank at 2nd position for the keyword. I am only getting less than 50 installs per day? Apps are related to programming tutorials. The others are also struggling to get good installs per day. Any suggestions which can increase Installs which doesn't cost me very high money to promote in google ads etc.?

Replied in my previous message.

UPDATE:

Also, a good friend gave me an amazing game source code thats in a very powerful niche, i am looking forward to doing this, i dont have much experience in unity but i should learn the basics as i go. Might also learn with udemy tutorials, photoshop for reskinning. But i will make my friend edit the photos instead.

 

[WarlordYT]

Where does the method call occure? i think the signature is wrong, it is suppose to return String

in the mainactivity as a import statement like

import c.c.a.a

"i think the signature is wrong, it is suppose to return String"

How can a void return String .. and there are thousand of errors like this plz help to fix can i send u the project

 

[dkv023]

Sorry i misunderstood this message, i have already replied in my previous message. But learning basic programming and android took me 3 months and then after that i did some small projects for self and school mates, for about 4 extra months before starting on a big project which taught me alot of things on general programming and android and it lasted about a year.

1) 3 months with 8hr per day ? So basically you have 1 year experience in programming. Did you learn Java?
2) What about freelance? How do you find offers? Do you create apps for other people or something else?
3) I don't understand how exactly you earn money from ads. I think nobody like ads in their apps. I don't like when ads are showing in the app, which I’ve installed. I think it's too small CTR. So nobody will click on these stupid ads.

 

[sweeside]

1) 3 months with 8hr per day ? So basically you have 1 year experience in programming. Did you learn Java?
2) What about freelance? How do you find offers? Do you create apps for other people or something else?
3) I don't understand how exactly you earn money from ads. I think nobody like ads in their apps. I don't like when ads are showing in the app, which I’ve installed. I think it's too small CTR. So nobody will click on these stupid ads.

1. About 2+. Yes, java first, and then android and then played with the browser, js and similar stuff, i was also in computer science until i dropped out
2. Yes, i create apps for clients, and sell them too sometimes
3. Scale and/or quality. Ctr is normally 1-2%, in the previous app that was suspended, i was getting 1.2m+ impressions per day, so yeah it definitely works, plus you can inflate clicks with blackhat

 

[dkv023]

1. About 2+. Yes, java first, and then android and then played with the browser, js and similar stuff, i was also in computer science until i dropped out
2. Yes, i create apps for clients, and sell them too sometimes
3. Scale. Ctr is normally 1-2%, in the previous app that was suspended, i was getting 1.2m+ impressions per day, so yeah it definitely works, plus you can inflate clicks with blackhat

Sorry for my stupid questions. Android-Do you mean Android Studio? played with the browser - what do you mean?
Is it possible to get like $300 per month with whitehat method without risking too much? And without be able to stick to Google. I don't like Google, because they bad. They can ban your adsense or any account easy. But they have Play Market so if you get banned in Play Market you will not get earning at all.

But I really don't get it who will click on these stupid ads in apps. They show not relevant advertise. I myself never click on such ads when I use app on android.

 

[Chakiry]

@sweeside what Rdps/Vps do you use for opening multiple accounts , can you recommend any good RDP ?

 

[sweeside]

Sorry for my stupid questions. Android-Do you mean Android Studio? played with the browser - what do you mean?

Np. Android studio and how to make apps using android studio. I mean learned some web stuff, i meant play because i enjoyed doing it

Is it possible to get like $300 per month with whitehat method without risking too much? And without be able to stick to Google. I don't like Google, because they bad. They can ban your adsense or any account easy. But they have Play Market so if you get banned in Play Market you will not get earning at all.

Its possible to get 30k/mo
Jesus, even 300k/mo

I am doing greyhat/whitehat now, i plan blackhat once i get stable income or i have disposable apps that i can experiment with. And i earned about 13k in 40days with just one app, which was suspended because i am new in this niche. When i think about it if this app wasn't suspended i was getting 1k-1.5k/day now

Adsense is not banned if your app is banned, you can also use FAN which is safer

But I really don't get it who will click on these stupid ads in apps. They show not relevant advertise. I myself never click on such ads when I use app on android.

Bro, everybody is not you
its actually a common error to assume users will like what you like

@sweeside what Rdps/Vps do you use for opening multiple accounts , can you recommend any good RDP ?

PM.

 

[dkv023]

Adsense is not banned if your app is banned, you can also use FAN which is safer
Bro, everybody is not you
its actually a common error to assume users will like what you like

So if my app is banned in Google Play my Adsense will not? It's strange, but useless. Without Play Market nobody will install the app. Or I'm wrong?
FAN it is ads am I right? Why is it safer?
I see main bottom is Play Market. Because if you be banned in Play Market you will not get traffic. Nobody will install app without Play Market

Sorry another stupid question. If I learn java and android studio. Can I use these skills for freelance? I think there are not many offers for android there. Because it is not web development.

 

[WarlordYT]

in the mainactivity as a import statement like

import c.c.a.a

"i think the signature is wrong, it is suppose to return String"

How can a void return String .. and there are thousand of errors like this plz help to fix can i send u the project

Answer my question plz .. you left it

 

[smillwith]

I have 2-3 apps in play store but even after getting one of my app to rank at 2nd position for the keyword. I am only getting less than 50 installs per day? Apps are related to programming tutorials. The others are also struggling to get good installs per day. Any suggestions which can increase Installs which doesn't cost me very high money to promote in google ads etc.?

from my experience, being second at a keyword is not as good as being first. one of my apps reached first at a relativly high traffic keyword and it had over 150 downloads daily, but once it dropped to second or third place the downloads went down to under 20 downloads. you can always try to buy some downloads with keywords like keyapptop. be warned though people have been reporting that apps with fake downloads can get banned from the store, which i cant confirm at this point.

Answer my question plz .. you left it

without seing how the function is called we cant tell you the right fix for this. you can try to change the "void" to String and add "return" infront of "str+i2"


@op your previous apps where reskins of other popular apps right? and you said you want to venture into gaming apps. i wonder how people reskin games. do you create new 3d models? do you change the whole theme of the game?

 

[NMB]

Hello everyone!

This is my first journey. Here's a little background.

About two years, i tried making white hat android apps but they got installs slowly and earning was shit. And then i stumbled upon a lucky blackhat niche, it earned about 100/day on average and hit more than 1k/day on few seasons.

That niches keyword died after a year and i had to move to find a new niche. There's lots of niches in play store if you have time and know how to look for them. So starting from 8 months ago, i tried many different niches with some success. But developer account problems continued to haunt me repeatedly. I had thought the problem was from my provider's side, and i constantly tried to switch providers and vccs after each association. My apps were getting terminated by association after a month or so, even though other developers apps in same niches survived to millions installs. The best installs i did in the last 8 months was 90k installs. My max made in these months was 2.5k/mo with the help of a trick. Mostly about 1k. 90% of my apps were terminated for association.

And then recently i discovered the reason was my faulty ip setting.

I lost a lot of time and i feel very demotivated and stressed out now. These kinds of experiences can be a life lesson on humility if one knows how to take it. And there's worse stuff. But anyway i dont really have options but to look up and continue marching forward, my chest out.

So now i am using paid rdps to release apps and i am sure if there's no association i will grow steadily. Even though my budget is limited now, i think i can fund it on side hussles by selling services and source codes etc..

I know what i have to do, i know great niches, i have load of experience, all that is left for me to do is concentrate and grind. Release with right aso and maybe market initially and wait...

My general plan now is to release apps in different niches. And spam the powerful and safer ones moderately. Yes, white hat is really good in the long term so i am also gonna give that some time. I am focusing on fast bh returns because i need to give money for a some members of my family that need it. But i have this gut feeling calm and steady is way better.

I will do some initial marketing some of the apps with some social media and th accs.

Apps stats now:-

Bh Apps:

1 - 5+ installs
2 - 10+ installs
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Wh apps:

3 - 500+ installs
4 - 1K+ installs
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5 pending publication apps(3 bh, two wh)
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Planning to release 1 bh & 1 wh app today.

More to go!

You can ask me questions.

I am also planning to release games asap and partner up with a couple of good people. Might also try iOS once i have some time.

In this journey, i will try to be as helpful as possible for those interested. Hopefully, it will also help me gather and organize my thoughts and work.

Hop in!

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[sweeside]

So if my app is banned in Google Play my Adsense will not? It's strange, but useless. Without Play Market nobody will install the app. Or I'm wrong?
FAN it is ads am I right? Why is it safer?
I see main bottom is Play Market. Because if you be banned in Play Market you will not get traffic. Nobody will install app without Play Market

Sorry another stupid question. If I learn java and android studio. Can I use these skills for freelance? I think there are not many offers for android there. Because it is not web development.

Your not wrong. FAN is less strict

Yes, you can use those skills for freelance, but its always competitive so you have to invest some time

Answer my question plz .. you left it

@smillwith has answered your question

from my experience, being second at a keyword is not as good as being first. one of my apps reached first at a relativly high traffic keyword and it had over 150 downloads daily, but once it dropped to second or third place the downloads went down to under 20 downloads. you can always try to buy some downloads with keywords like keyapptop. be warned though people have been reporting that apps with fake downloads can get banned from the store, which i cant confirm at this point.


without seing how the function is called we cant tell you the right fix for this. you can try to change the "void" to String and add "return" infront of "str+i2"


@op your previous apps where reskins of other popular apps right? and you said you want to venture into gaming apps. i wonder how people reskin games. do you create new 3d models? do you change the whole theme of the game?

Yeah, but i have added some twists to it which made it go faster, thats why it got reported so early.

I plan to just change the avatars, and the main UI, controls. We will see how it goes.

Anyone who is experienced in Unity, why is it logging me out when i installed and tried to use old version unity ?

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[beautifulcode]

@sweeside How people are able to upload ebooks that are copyrighted?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.best.don.programmingbooks (Can only see the copyrighted books after upgrading to pro in app)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=desideveloper.in

and so many like these. Are they trying their luck?

 

[beautifulcode]

@sweeside How people are able to upload ebooks that are copyrighted?

id=com.best.don.programmingbooks (Can only see the copyrighted books after upgrading to pro in app)
id=desideveloper.in

and so many like these. Are they trying their luck?

 

[sweeside]

@sweeside How people are able to upload ebooks that are copyrighted?

id=com.best.don.programmingbooks (Can only see the copyrighted books after upgrading to pro in app)
id=desideveloper.in

and so many like these. Are they trying their luck?

Yeah they wont get suspended unless they get great traffic

Find other niches man