Apps journey to 2k/day within a year

[mariberguling]

Start with fast niches that are not saturated. Its simple

You will learn as you go, but it takes too much explaining to tell you everything in detail. You can ask me specific things

thanks for your help, i`ll start with ringtone and sticker apps

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

They would not allow apps published from code purchased from brokers like codecanyon, sellmyapp.

Also the apps made from app builders won't get through AI review and also won't let people update their already live apps.

They put robot in place to check if the same app code is already published.

search google 4.3 design spam on google, you will see so many genuine mad developers.

Which apps were you publishing ?
I did receive Spam and functionality but for very specific niche.
I only developer apps by the way so it could be the case.
There are some libraries on to randomise code etc but I do not think that they play a big role.
As much as the app goes through a robotic procedure in the end of the day there is a human who will try it and make a decision.

Shoot me a DM if you want to discuss more.
Cheers,

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

thanks, good luck!


I dont buy source code yet, i use appbrain and play store for niche research.


Yep, bro, i have already launched 3 apps and currently growing them. Oh yeah, exactly. I will test better source codes, and if admob works, i will take it easy on my advertising which will increase retention and ratings, which will make the installs go faster. And when i have multiple working apps, i will optimize the monetization and experiment with blackhat stuff. Will also push paid traffic and experiment with different niches, which might be way better than this one. Diamond niches


Most apps can be reversed, technically all apps. But some apps are heavily obfuscated and take lots of time, the big apps such as Facebook have custom obfuscation but i know a person who has managed to reverse all the famous apps actually, i plan to try to release them when my business is more stable and i have time. Haha, fun fact, i am planning to reverse a very famous app as gift for a girlfriend now. I hear Unity's IL2CPP is impossible to reverse, but my guess is it will be cracked in the coming years.


I think its possible to rank games with aso and some investment in reviews and initial installs. I have seen it work in some niches and i am very eager to try it.



Alright, thanks I will let u know if I need any help

UPDATE​

Ecpm decreased by 15% ~ 0.4$, meanwhile ecpm at the smaller app at 500-1k/day installs is at 0.85$.
Earnings have decreased to 470$ yesterday. Hopefuly it will pick up and the traffic increase including from other apps will keep the increase

My friend I finally took action and published some apps.
I currently have 3 apps live in the store.

All is doing good started to get some organic traffic now facebook all of sudden stopped serving ads on my apps.
Saying that my app encourage accidental clicks.
I make sure that all ads are preloaded and only shown in the next activity.
Still blocked my placement with appeal no luck.

Any help you can suggest for this ?
Thank you

 

[WarlordYT]

My friend I finally took action and published some apps.
I currently have 3 apps live in the store.

All is doing good started to get some organic traffic now facebook all of sudden stopped serving ads on my apps.
Saying that my app encourage accidental clicks.
I make sure that all ads are preloaded and only shown in the next activity.
Still blocked my placement with appeal no luck.

Any help you can suggest for this ?
Thank you

how did u do it ? with apktool it gives me smali files and with jadx its is impossbile for AS to read and again build ....... i got shitload of errors

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

how did u do it ? with apktool it gives me smali files and with jadx its is impossbile for AS to read and again build ....... i got shitload of errors

I published using Android studio my friend.
With apktool you will always be linked to other developers using apktool as well.

It does not take science to understand that Doodle track the way the app has been packaged.
Do not use it if you are looking for long term revenue and as op said not all apps are compatible with apktool.

 

[WarlordYT]

I published using Android studio my friend.
With apktool you will always be linked to other developers using apktool as well.

It does not take science to understand that Doodle track the way the app has been packaged.
Do not use it if you are looking for long term revenue and as op said not all apps are compatible with apktool.

what tools do u use to do reverse engineering on the apps .. can u PM me

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

what tools do u use to do reverse engineering on the apps .. can u PM me

I just told you I do not reverse any apps.
use your own Android studio or eclipse

Reversing apps are build with the same tools.
sooner or later foogle will ban hammer you

 

[WarlordYT]

Op please update the thread with some stats

 

[Jake Ballin]

Hey, are you only doing apps or games as well?

 

[sweeside]

They would not allow apps published from code purchased from brokers like codecanyon, sellmyapp.

Also the apps made from app builders won't get through AI review and also won't let people update their already live apps.

They put robot in place to check if the same app code is already published.

search google 4.3 design spam on google, you will see so many genuine mad developers.

Oh thats not such a big problem.

@sweeside do you use Google Adwords for promoting your apps ?

I am not using paid marketing yet, but i plan to, the best results must be with paid + organics.

Is it enough to change the names of several variables and functions for obfuscation?

Can I use regular vps hostings with Windows OS as a vps for google play? Is there any secret to choosing such hosting?)

No secret, the best vps are not cheap, or the vps ip is not used by other people before to abuse google

thanks for your help, i`ll start with ringtone and sticker apps

My pleasure, good luck!

My friend I finally took action and published some apps.
I currently have 3 apps live in the store.

All is doing good started to get some organic traffic now facebook all of sudden stopped serving ads on my apps.
Saying that my app encourage accidental clicks.
I make sure that all ads are preloaded and only shown in the next activity.
Still blocked my placement with appeal no luck.

Any help you can suggest for this ?
Thank you

I am happy that your apps are getting traffic. Read the FAN ad placement guidelines carefully and resolve the problem. Move your ad where there's no potential of accidental click. Or if you can, you can just cloak it from FB, but its difficult since FB does 60 day traffic quality check. You can also make ad placement white hat when its reviewed for the first time and then show accidental clicks ad until the review period which happens when you show 70k impressions in a day, i think

how did u do it ? with apktool it gives me smali files and with jadx its is impossbile for AS to read and again build ....... i got shitload of errors

Jadx,apktool.. Oh yeah, there will be alot of errors, you have to fix them

I published using Android studio my friend.
With apktool you will always be linked to other developers using apktool as well.

It does not take science to understand that Doodle track the way the app has been packaged.
Do not use it if you are looking for long term revenue and as op said not all apps are compatible with apktool.

You will not be linked to other developers, i mean reversing the **source code**. Not editing with apktool, that is too similar to the original code yes. If you have the source code, you can reskin/obfuscate it however you like

Op please update the thread with some stats

Alright on it

Hey, are you only doing apps or games as well?

Apps as of now, i am going to release a game within the next 7-10 days. Found many great source codes

UPDATE:

Bad news, the best app got suspended yesterday when it was at 850k installs, a big company reported it with evidence and stuff, i will not explain more about the company or anything not to expose my niche.
The most annoying thing is that i had almost no users from the country of the company that reported me, but this will serve as a lesson for future apps in cloaking.

Anyway, i have contacted them and might get into a license agreement to reinstate the app after a while.


Earnings have stabilized around 60-100$ now. Spamming more apps, oh and yeah second app is at 70k installs, and i am using admob now!! Which is epic. I am earning 30-50$ with just banner ads. When i tried updating with interstials remotely, they removed the app(not suspend) and i turned off the interstitials and republished, now its accepted, i will try to experiment with admob interstitials with another app to avoid risk, but i suspect it has sth to do with my banner placement. Hitting my goal with admob with this niche is going to be easy, FAN was earning 50$ banner with 400k retained users, i cant wait to see how the interstitials will play off, a bit anxious now. I am currently very motivated to spam apps and grow them, and even risk blackhat traffic methods to hit my goals within the next 20 days

 

[oflame]

What do you mean by "cloaking apps"

 

[sabhan]

With spamming apps like this, it was cat and mouse play so I had to stop doing it someday. It's great for earning quick and huge money. If 1 viral app sticks around for 5 years, you are in for ton of money (multi millionaire)

 

[JinxerCraft]

Are you getting installs from tier 1 countries?

 

[sweeside]

What do you mean by "cloaking apps"

Hiding illegal content/method from Facebook or Google

With spamming apps like this, it was cat and mouse play so I had to stop doing it someday. It's great for earning quick and huge money. If 1 viral app sticks around for 5 years, you are in for ton of money (multi millionaire)

It can be cat and mouse, or not. Blackhat can be too stressful if done while there is no enough funds. Oh yeah and very high potential this business

Are you getting installs from tier 1 countries?

I am not, but i am working on it.. i think i know how its done. It would be even more easier if i have some dollars to put in ads.

UPDATE:

Added admob interstitials to app 1, it was climbing to 200$+/day at least, but this new annoying temporary ad serving limit came up. I created the admob account with a different phone number than the gmail, and immediately before the limit was put, i activated an interstitial that was unbeknownst to me showed/loaded two times in a row. I will create another admob account and see if i can show ads. It worked a few months ago i remember. If that doesnt work, i will revert back to FAN, until the goddamn limit is lifted. I will try to make it admob-safe in the next apps.

Oh and while i wait for the limit to be lifted, i should fix my banner implementation which is risky atm.

Current good apps in the store: 3
100+ installs, 5k installs, and 50k+ installs

Going to focus growing this niche and spam more and aiming for t1 users, for the time being

EDIT: I just failed to create US gmail accounts using smspva, anyone have recommendations?

 

[Chakiry]

Hiding illegal content/method from Facebook or Google



It can be cat and mouse, or not. Blackhat can be too stressful if done while there is no enough funds. Oh yeah and very high potential this business


I am not, but i am working on it.. i think i know how its done. It would be even more easier if i have some dollars to put in ads.

UPDATE:

Added admob interstitials to app 1, it was climbing to 200$+/day at least, but this new annoying temporary ad serving limit came up. I created the admob account with a different phone number than the gmail, and immediately before the limit was put, i activated an interstitial that was unbeknownst to me showed/loaded two times in a row. I will create another admob account and see if i can show ads. It worked a few months ago i remember. If that doesnt work, i will revert back to FAN, until the goddamn limit is lifted. I will try to make it admob-safe in the next apps.

Oh and while i wait for the limit to be lifted, i should fix my banner implementation which is risky atm.

Current good apps in the store: 3
100+ installs, 5k installs, and 50k+ installs

Going to focus growing this niche and spam more and aiming for t1 users, for the time being

EDIT: I just failed to create US gmail accounts using smspva, anyone have recommendations?

Try Pvacodes.com it's good when it comes to create USA gmail accounts , other countries Not good enough

 

[WarlordYT]

When i unpack with apktool or jadx , i get smali files that are un readable.... like something a.java , b.java , c.java i mean what should i do can u help?

Should i put then 1 by 1 in AS ... bcz when i import to gradle they give too many errors

Plz help

 

[Adam718]

Very nice journey!

So how much you making from the apps in total per day?

 

[Evie Murray]

Best of luck with this great journey.

 

[sweeside]

Try Pvacodes.com it's good when it comes to create USA gmail accounts , other countries Not good enough

Thanks alot buddy

When i unpack with apktool or jadx , i get smali files that are un readable.... like something a.java , b.java , c.java i mean what should i do can u help?

Should i put then 1 by 1 in AS ... bcz when i import to gradle they give too many errors

Plz help

Jadx or jeb works better to get java files. Prepare a skeleton project and copy the java files and resource files to the project, and then fix the errors, sometimes the errors might be 3k+ and dont let that daunt you, they will disappear faster than you think usually, and you will learn to be faster in time.

Very nice journey!

So how much you making from the apps in total per day?

I am down to 50/day now. My admob got limited on one app and now i just integrated admob on two other apps, banners making 20-30 more now, we will see how it goes with interstitials.

Best of luck with this great journey.

Thanks.

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How are your apps doing?

UPDATE:

From now on, i will just report on the apps/niches that have installs movements.

I have 3 apps on the best niche now, total 120k installs, making 50$/day.. if things go as expected, i will be making 200-300$ in few days. My plan now is to have 5 safe and optimized, different source code apps with more than 10k installs at the end of this month. I will release a couple more after that and then focus on finding better or other niches, i will experiment with games, and ROAS game.


In the meantime, i will put everything i have learned to get traffic for the current apps, half will use admob primarily, half FAN. More than half, i will get risky with them for traffic, the other half i will be careful and make them whitehat very early.

 

[User359]

nice thread, sir. I've been working as android reverse engineer for 2 years. Can u please tell me whether you've tried to patch apks and upload them instead of creating your own app with copypasting jadx output. This first method seems to work faster