Apps journey to 2k/day within a year

[Shekly]

i mostly reverse engineer

Can you reverse any apps or are there exceptions? What apps cant be reversed? Thx)

 

[Chakiry]

@sweeside is it possible to rank games using just ASO or you use facebook ads ?

 

[sweeside]

woow soon, i will start to admob buying a game i hope i can walk in your wayy

thanks, good luck!

For how much do you buy source codes and how do you do your niche research?
How do you know what apps to publish?

I dont buy source code yet, i use appbrain and play store for niche research.

probably u will launch another app and u will add more improvment that u learned from that golden app

what performances u will add ?
also what setups u will follow to keep it up in store and not get suspended?
in journey to find a niche, do u suggest focusing in apps or games ,and what is more profitable ?

Yep, bro, i have already launched 3 apps and currently growing them. Oh yeah, exactly. I will test better source codes, and if admob works, i will take it easy on my advertising which will increase retention and ratings, which will make the installs go faster. And when i have multiple working apps, i will optimize the monetization and experiment with blackhat stuff. Will also push paid traffic and experiment with different niches, which might be way better than this one. Diamond niches

Can you reverse any apps or are there exceptions? What apps cant be reversed? Thx)

Most apps can be reversed, technically all apps. But some apps are heavily obfuscated and take lots of time, the big apps such as Facebook have custom obfuscation but i know a person who has managed to reverse all the famous apps actually, i plan to try to release them when my business is more stable and i have time. Haha, fun fact, i am planning to reverse a very famous app as gift for a girlfriend now. I hear Unity's IL2CPP is impossible to reverse, but my guess is it will be cracked in the coming years.

@sweeside is it possible to rank games using just ASO or you use facebook ads ?

I think its possible to rank games with aso and some investment in reviews and initial installs. I have seen it work in some niches and i am very eager to try it.

@sweeside thanks for the reply , if you need any help with re-skinning games or developing let me know i'm unity3d Developer .

Alright, thanks I will let u know if I need any help

UPDATE​

Ecpm decreased by 15% ~ 0.4$, meanwhile ecpm at the smaller app at 500-1k/day installs is at 0.85$.
Earnings have decreased to 470$ yesterday. Hopefuly it will pick up and the traffic increase including from other apps will keep the increase

 

[Chakiry]

@sweeside thanks for the reply , if you need any help with re-skinning games or developing let me know i'm unity3d Developer .

 

[sabhan]

Do you upload ads.txt files.
I have multiple admob accounts and multiple play store accounts so apps from one play store account could be monetized in multiple admob accounts.
And one admob account is monetizing apps from multiple play store accounts.

Any idea?

 

[sweeside]

Do you upload ads.txt files.
I have multiple admob accounts and multiple play store accounts so apps from one play store account could be monetized in multiple admob accounts.
And one admob account is monetizing apps from multiple play store accounts.

Any idea?

app-ads.txt is not mandatory and the purpose is to stop others monetize for themselves pretending to own your apps ad inventory. Adding ads.txt while using multiple admob accounts is inviting terminations. Also, i would refrain from using multiple admob accounts across play store accounts because i believe Google is starting to use them to relate play store accounts. My developer accounts were banned repeatedly when i used old admob accounts with many suspensions. But if you have apps to risk, go for it. But remember there's an incoming Admob purge on april 18, google will terminate many many admob accounts which it suspects are blackhat, without warning.

 

[sabhan]

app-ads.txt is not mandatory and the purpose is to stop others monetize for themselves pretending to own your apps ad inventory.

So not adding ads.txt doesn't mean decrease in ecpm? I had a decrease in ecpm recently that's why asking. Can you please confirm this.

 

[sweeside]

So not adding ads.txt doesn't mean decrease in ecpm? I had a decrease in ecpm recently that's why asking. Can you please confirm this.

No, its not related. Some people even report few months ago decrease in ecpm after adding ads.txt. The decrease in ecpm is faced by everyone else because of the Quarter, i have posted a link about it in previous messages, you can check it out.

There you go: https://www.mediavine.com/ad-revenue-seasons/

 

[mariberguling]

hi great journey, i`m just starting plan to make money with apps, can you advise me which niche or apps should i start with?

thanks

 

[Mr.Sinatra]

app-ads.txt is not mandatory and the purpose is to stop others monetize for themselves pretending to own your apps ad inventory. Adding ads.txt while using multiple admob accounts is inviting terminations. Also, i would refrain from using multiple admob accounts across play store accounts because i believe Google is starting to use them to relate play store accounts. My developer accounts were banned repeatedly when i used old admob accounts with many suspensions. But if you have apps to risk, go for it. But remember there's an incoming Admob purge on april 18, google will terminate many many admob accounts which it suspects are blackhat, without warning.

Why the 18 April ?

 

[GreatBlueWhale]

I would love to know how much your CPI is. Do you have any tips on deciding the maximum CPI for apps with ads only?

 

[WarlordYT]

So basically you are finding the app in the market , reversing with the tool and adding your ads and changing graphics and reupload right???

 

[deloe]

And then recently i discovered the reason was my faulty ip setting.
....
So now i am using paid rdps to release apps

You said that in ur first post : Could u explain more about "faulty ip setting." and how to avoid it .. ??

Also how much it cost you an rdp monthly , could you elaborate that in detail..??

 

[sweeside]

hi great journey, i`m just starting plan to make money with apps, can you advise me which niche or apps should i start with?

thanks

Start with fast niches that are not saturated. Its simple

You will learn as you go, but it takes too much explaining to tell you everything in detail. You can ask me specific things

Why the 18 April ?

It has been happening for the last few years. They choose 18/19 to get as much money as possible before payout which is on 21. So they know your admob account will be terminated months before. And they take March + April earnings, those sly motherf***ers

I would love to know how much your CPI is. Do you have any tips on deciding the maximum CPI for apps with ads only?

I don't advertise, i will test more and post results here but as of now it has been useless. I think it needs to be done in bursts or en mass to be effective

So basically you are finding the app in the market , reversing with the tool and adding your ads and changing graphics and reupload right???

Yes.

You said that in ur first post : Could u explain more about "faulty ip setting." and how to avoid it .. ??
Also how much it cost you an rdp monthly , could you elaborate that in detail..??

Well, i wrongly thought my router was dynamic, when it was only a couple of hundred ips.

Monthly rdps: 5$/day, Pm for detail, i will tell my vps to the first 3 guys

UPDATE:

My ecpm tanked to .03-0.4$, so i am getting about 450$/day now. I tried changing the placement but it decreased the impressions by 10%+ even though there was a 4% increase in ecpm, but i am not 100% sure. Second app is at 5-15$/day. Going to optimize and grow the 3rd app, planning to release about 10 apps in this niche.

 

[sabhan]

wow $450 a day is solid. Reminds me of the days when I was doing $500 a day on Apple app store and they launched their app store cleanup project and also started giving 4.3 design spam rejection to new and repeated apps.

Then I shifted to Android and published 15 apps on 15 different accounts with different names and ASO and they started to grow but then Google connected all of them and suspended all accounts. I was using Windows VMWare machines along with ExpressVPN for publishing android apps. I think I went wrong with Repeated apps + VMWare + ExpressVPN combination.

Now a days, app stores scan app code to find footprints of repeated app spam.

 

[oflame]

Do you add ads after the app get high installs or from the beginning!!

 

[sweeside]

wow $450 a day is solid. Reminds me of the days when I was doing $500 a day on Apple app store and they launched their app store cleanup project and also started giving 4.3 design spam rejection to new and repeated apps.

Then I shifted to Android and published 15 apps on 15 different accounts with different names and ASO and they started to grow but then Google connected all of them and suspended all accounts. I was using Windows VMWare machines along with ExpressVPN for publishing android apps. I think I went wrong with Repeated apps + VMWare + ExpressVPN combination.

Now a days, app stores scan app code to find footprints of repeated app spam.

Bro, using expressvpn is bad bad idea. You have to use unique 4g ip for each account if your going to use vmware. Also, heavy obfuscation after reskin should solve your spam problem.

Can you tell me more about the new app store requirement?
You should be able to crack their quality system with some attempts.

Do you add ads after the app get high installs or from the beginning!!

Hello there

I usually add ads after it 1k/day installs
But i also sometimes add from the beginning when i am lazy
You can setup to control it remotely though.

 

[sabhan]

Can you tell me more about the new app store requirement?

They would not allow apps published from code purchased from brokers like codecanyon, sellmyapp.

Also the apps made from app builders won't get through AI review and also won't let people update their already live apps.

They put robot in place to check if the same app code is already published.

search google 4.3 design spam on google, you will see so many genuine mad developers.

 

[Chakiry]

@sweeside do you use Google Adwords for promoting your apps ?

 

[Shekly]

Also, heavy obfuscation after reskin should solve your spam problem.

Is it enough to change the names of several variables and functions for obfuscation?

Monthly rdps: 5$/day, Pm for detail, i will tell my vps to the first 3 guys

Can I use regular vps hostings with Windows OS as a vps for google play? Is there any secret to choosing such hosting?)