Secrets behind 4G Mobile Proxies

[tadeuonbrand]

And this is why I cannot stress learning how to program enough! You learn how developers think, how they program, how they build. In order to destroy your enemy, you must always be one step ahead. God I love the art of war

Exactly, what Im very worried about is that:

Every mobile network provider have a special database that stores you IMEI number and current sim card number. So using IMEI we can get the current sim card that is working on the device.
If someone is using sim card on that device than their records can be found and using that currently active network address within the network provider can be traced.

This process is initiated by police complaint and submiting the complaint to network provider they will assist you and get the local and IP address of the device.

Conclusion:

If Facebook has any alliance with carriers, they can track you using an integration of softwares between you and the carrier.
There is a time lag delay here to get and resume this informations, but I believe they are thinking in a way to do it!

So 4G proxys has same IMEI on their modens/cellphones.
One time or another it will be a real problem !

 

[Jibri Wright]

Exactly, what Im very worried about is that:

Every mobile network provider have a special database that stores you IMEI number and current sim card number. So using IMEI we can get the current sim card that is working on the device.
If someone is using sim card on that device than their records can be found and using that currently active network address within the network provider can be traced.

This process is initiated by police complaint and submiting the complaint to network provider they will assist you and get the local and IP address of the device.

Conclusion:

If Facebook has any alliance with carriers, they can track you using an integration of softwares between you and the carrier.
There is a time lag delay here to get and resume this informations, but I believe they are thinking in a way to do it!

So 4G proxys has same IMEI on their modens/cellphones.
One time or another it will be a real problem !

Tbh this shouldn't be a problem as long as there are 4G and 5G SIM dongles. SIM dongles provide internet access through a phone carrier's network for your laptop or other device. They aren't really a standalone device, but still give your computer a mobile IP address. And as long as there is a demand for them, phone carriers will continue to make and sell them.

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

Tbh this shouldn't be a problem as long as there are 4G and 5G SIM dongles. SIM dongles provide internet access through a phone carrier's network for your laptop or other device. They aren't really a standalone device, but still give your computer a mobile IP address. And as long as there is a demand for them, phone carriers will continue to make and sell them.

4g and 5g or whatever G doesn’t matter
What he tried to say is basically phone usage correlation
For use a SIM card you need to have a active IMeI that somehow are registered to the network controller operator of that country, for example here in Brazil it’s ANATEL.
Doesn’t matter the carrier you are using, to be able to receive the signal from carrier a,b or c or whatever it’s a must to have a real IMEI basically to receive the cell tower connection.
I don’t need to say that for this you need to buy a legitimate device, because usually stolen devices are blocked by Imei blocking and basically using stolen phones is a crime itself.
4g and 3g or 5g dongles need to have real IMeI in order to work, here in Brazil replica and dongles without a country allowed IMeI are useless because they. Can’t receive mobile plan data.
There is a difference to the carrier and the final IMEI, it’s a. Specific thing I don’t want to get into, but a specific brand will have a specific IMEI range and basically you can even find the producer or requester of a IMEI by reverse engineering
Mobile carrier a will get inside starting with 5435..
Mobile b with 4336
( I am not talking about sequential IMEI but how the Assigned IMEI somehow may have the requester into)
Basically my point is that huawei dongles will have imei of dongles and not of zamsung devices, so even using dongles your carrier can forward the info through the ido/tcp packets header to show the request came from a dongle and not from a device itself

A example is that when you make the phone act as proxy with native apps the information website will show your user agent as the final computer
But if you use hotspot or usb tethering it always show the operational system of the user plataform but not of the main device
Phone as proxy-> ip of phone but user agent of final device using it as proxy
Phone as tethering/hotspot: ip of phone but user agent is the operational system of the final device
So if you use the tethering or hotspot the final site can see the IP comes from a mobile carrier but being used on win10 for example, and this is basically something that people don’t even know that is a non common trait
Like I said unless you can literally spoof Arin and tcp/udp packets in a network level to be seen and recognized as another device it’s useless to try to recreate the rock because doesn’t matter the automation tools settings or the code itself because at a primitive level you need to use connection and tools that you can’t fool

And if you can literally spoof tcp and udp packets in a way you are seen as spoofed device 1 or 2 you literally found a quantum level breach that make literally all pgp and encryption useless because it can crack down all connections in the primitive level

So it’s a useless cat and mouse game, everyone is focused at how they will get the cheese and forgot that the cheese have a bio molecular gps inside it’s dna that can track all thee rats doesn’t matter how they get the cheese

 

[Jibri Wright]

A example is that when you make the phone act as proxy with native apps the information website will show your user agent as the final computer
But if you use hotspot or usb tethering it always show the operational system of the user plataform but not of the main device
Phone as proxy-> ip of phone but user agent of final device using it as proxy
Phone as tethering/hotspot: ip of phone but user agent is the operational system of the final device
So if you use the tethering or hotspot the final site can see the IP comes from a mobile carrier but being used on win10 for example, and this is basically something that people don’t even know that is a non common trait
Like I said unless you can literally spoof Arin and tcp/udp packets in a network level to be seen and recognized as another device it’s useless to try to recreate the rock because doesn’t matter the automation tools settings or the code itself because at a primitive level you need to use connection and tools that you can’t fool

And if you can literally spoof tcp and udp packets in a way you are seen as spoofed device 1 or 2 you literally found a quantum level breach that make literally all pgp and encryption useless because it can crack down all connections in the primitive level

So it’s a useless cat and mouse game, everyone is focused at how they will get the cheese and forgot that the cheese have a bio molecular gps inside it’s dna that can track all thee rats doesn’t matter how they get the cheese

You're forgetting that there is a way to spoof the operating system if you're using a mobile device as a hotspot not gonna say anjything else about that tho. People have to figure out what I'm referring to, and a lot of you may already be aware of what I'm talking about. That just isn't the intended purpose of the software(again, thinking outside the box!)

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

You're forgetting that there is a way to spoof the operating system if you're using a mobile device as a hotspot not gonna say anjything else about that tho. People have to figure out what I'm referring to, and a lot of you may already be aware of what I'm talking about. That just isn't the intended purpose of the software(again, thinking outside the box!)

No I didn’t forgot it, what i am telling goes beyond user agent or operational system spoofing, is literally network packets that you can’t fool

All the api requests, bots requests, 3 party requests or even native requests all need a connection to be happen
The primitive problem begins when you cant fool anything at a network level, this is something that few persons are aware because is literally able to tracking you down doesn’t matter where you are and. What system or spoof you use
Each hardware device can operate in different frequencies and with different results, at a human scale you wouldn’t see it
Let’s say you are using a intel processor i5 and other a i3
The hardware differences make each one unique at a time response level
Because we have
Network speed -cable/signal lost- hardware loss
In a simple example if you use something with gold the final response time will be lower than something using stain, as the gold molecules have “faster” electrons transference
Lets say
Processor made of gold 0.5001 ms ( miliseconds of response)
Professor made of stain 0.5002 ms
At a normal time comparison
(Minutes/seconds) this is basically useless
But with quantum computer correlation we have time response correlation in mili,nano,pico,mega and all the others time scale
IN a normal world comparison you wouldn’t see if a car had a difference of 0.0001 centimeters in the way it was produced but a measured scale can.

My point is that ig/fb/g00 already know this so it’s useless to think they ain’t able to see you are spoofing whatever you want so instead of trying to beat them at that (unless you can do 4th and 5th dimension mathematical equations beyond everything we ever seen) just focus at mimic a normal user and a normal human with caotical actions ( non progressive and non pattern/arithmetic and you will be fine)

Ps: at controlled scenarios if I am not wrong MIT could already see what you typed on your computer just by analyzing your electrical consumption of your whole area, you would get shocked about how many ways beyond operational system or whatever you are behind that can be used to track you.

My final 2 cents: focus at getting mirrored as someone inside the game not to play as someone against it unless you are someone Beyond anything ever seen

 

[tadeuonbrand]

My point is that ig/fb/g00 already know this so it’s useless to think they ain’t able to see you are spoofing whatever you want so instead of trying to beat them at that (unless you can do 4th and 5th dimension mathematical equations beyond everything we ever seen) just focus at mimic a normal user and a normal human with caotical actions ( non progressive and non pattern/arithmetic and you will be fine)

Ps: at controlled scenarios if I am not wrong MIT could already see what you typed on your computer just by analyzing your electrical consumption of your whole area, you would get shocked about how many ways beyond operational system or whatever you are behind that can be used to track you.

My final 2 cents: focus at getting mirrored as someone inside the game not to play as someone against it unless you are someone Beyond anything ever seen

And thats the golden key to not get blocked !
Resumed everything, but it still has something new we didnt figure out and they will put it into work asap !

 

[Eagle20]

Just to save people a lot of reading. Basically, you can focus on trying to cheat, or you can focus on trying to be a normal human.

But ultimately we need a bot that can run on phones like a human if you want to automate?

 

[Jibri Wright]

Just to save people a lot of reading. Basically, you can focus on trying to cheat, or you can focus on trying to be a normal human.

But ultimately we need a bot that can run on phones like a human if you want to automate?

I think BrazilianBusinessman is trolling there are ways to change things even at the network layer. You're talking to someone who has done it lmao. Past that there isn't much else IG can track haha. They definitely can't track the speed of your processor based off of the speed in which you communicate with their servers. Networks still have unaccounted delays and there's no set path from your IP's modem to IG's server, simply what the modem "thinks" is the fastest route from IP tables.

 

[Eagle20]

I think BrazilianBusinessman is trolling there are ways to change things even at the network layer. You're talking to someone who has done it lmao. Past that there isn't much else IG can track haha. They definitely can't track the speed of your processor based off of the speed in which you communicate with their servers. Networks still have unaccounted delays and there's no set path from your IP's modem to IG's server, simply what the modem "thinks" is the fastest route from IP tables.

I mean either way I think the thing is they are saying you can spend all your time trying to find and create loopholes or you can try and create some sort of mobile Ai.

Ultimately we could all just band together and create our own social network

The way I see it, you can cheat the system, manipulate the system, or you can be the system. Obviously that's a lot harder said than done, but the way I see it, theres really only one way to win here.

 

[tadeuonbrand]

Just to save people a lot of reading. Basically, you can focus on trying to cheat, or you can focus on trying to be a normal human.

But ultimately we need a bot that can run on phones like a human if you want to automate?

When using a browser what are your browser reading ? Answering that question, and you will figure out what they are doing!
Shit programming are not doing human process. It clicks on follow button without loading a javascipt, css, or whatever inserted here, and thats is a fucking HUGE BOT FLAG !

They can read if your custom browser is legit or not with some codes. They are not tracking your mouse, keyboard, etc... it is a simple code that some people didnt figure out what is (secret)

Facebook has this fucking perfect system since 2017 ! Now, it is on Instagram ! Keep waiting for more news ! You gonna cry with the next wave of anti bot upgrades

 

[pr0ject1]

Should the country of the account be the same as the user using it on Instagram APP ?

I have followed 3000+ a day and I can tell you that the country has no impact.

Think about it this way there are users who happen to make accounts in the US using their 4G phone and then travel to some other country for vacation because they know they want to take pictures of all the cool spots beforehand and show it to all their friends.
They are essentially moving from one country to another in a matter of hours. IG cannot flag this.

Now lets say use a 4G ip to a datacenter IP and they are different countries then this might be more suspicious. As people who vacation usually use residential IP's(including airports,starbucks,etc..) to mobile or vice versa.

 

[tadeuonbrand]

I have followed 3000+ a day and I can tell you that the country has no impact.

Think about it this way there are users who happen to make accounts in the US using their 4G phone and then travel to some other country for vacation because they know they want to take pictures of all the cool spots beforehand and show it to all their friends.
They are essentially moving from one country to another in a matter of hours. IG cannot flag this.

Now lets say use a 4G ip to a datacenter IP and they are different countries then this might be more suspicious. As people who vacation usually use residential IP's(including airports,starbucks,etc..) to mobile or vice versa.

SO what we have are fake dedicated 4G providers ! These idiots are selling dedicated proxies with 3 or more users on the same fucking port

 

[pr0ject1]

SO what we have are fake dedicated 4G providers ! These idiots are selling dedicated proxies with 3 or more users on the same fucking port

They might be selling fake dedicated proxies but if they are 4G or mobile it does not lower the quality of the proxy substantially.

You see because normal people also use their phones as hotspots and so this is not that much of a red flag for 3 users but more then yes it might look shady to IG.

In either case a truly dedicated proxy is always going to be the best and better than shared proxies.

 

[tadeuonbrand]

They might be selling fake dedicated proxies but if they are 4G or mobile it does not lower the quality of the proxy substantially.

You see because normal people also use their phones as hotspots and so this is not that much of a red flag for 3 users but more then yes it might look shady to IG.

In either case a truly dedicated proxy is always going to be the best and better than shared proxies.

A lie is still a lie !

 

[manureverse]

Thats why I dont use Jarvee and any of this crap tools on internet

@tadeuonbrand Which automation software do you use?
I am really looking for a well-made software that is not detectable by various sites like whatleaks.com
A software that in the analysis is really the same as an Android system, Jarvee gives you a fake Android user agent, but with in-depth analysis it is immediately visible that you are using windows too, so there is a difference between operating systems.
I look for a solution that allows you to hide between the mass, and from what I am detecting in the tests, it seems the only real solution.

 

[Alex N.]

I think best bot solution is to make own bot. People working with IG many years and use Jarvee or something else and then complain about the bot. They could learn programming to make own great bot. At least they complain about own bad bot.

 

[FalkusKibre]

Jarvee has action for swiping up and down and no one uses it lmao. I do

wow what!? Where can i find that?

 

[FalkusKibre]

No I didn’t forgot it, what i am telling goes beyond user agent or operational system spoofing, is literally network packets that you can’t fool

All the api requests, bots requests, 3 party requests or even native requests all need a connection to be happen
The primitive problem begins when you cant fool anything at a network level, this is something that few persons are aware because is literally able to tracking you down doesn’t matter where you are and. What system or spoof you use
Each hardware device can operate in different frequencies and with different results, at a human scale you wouldn’t see it
Let’s say you are using a intel processor i5 and other a i3
The hardware differences make each one unique at a time response level
Because we have
Network speed -cable/signal lost- hardware loss
In a simple example if you use something with gold the final response time will be lower than something using stain, as the gold molecules have “faster” electrons transference
Lets say
Processor made of gold 0.5001 ms ( miliseconds of response)
Professor made of stain 0.5002 ms
At a normal time comparison
(Minutes/seconds) this is basically useless
But with quantum computer correlation we have time response correlation in mili,nano,pico,mega and all the others time scale
IN a normal world comparison you wouldn’t see if a car had a difference of 0.0001 centimeters in the way it was produced but a measured scale can.

My point is that ig/fb/g00 already know this so it’s useless to think they ain’t able to see you are spoofing whatever you want so instead of trying to beat them at that (unless you can do 4th and 5th dimension mathematical equations beyond everything we ever seen) just focus at mimic a normal user and a normal human with caotical actions ( non progressive and non pattern/arithmetic and you will be fine)

Ps: at controlled scenarios if I am not wrong MIT could already see what you typed on your computer just by analyzing your electrical consumption of your whole area, you would get shocked about how many ways beyond operational system or whatever you are behind that can be used to track you.

My final 2 cents: focus at getting mirrored as someone inside the game not to play as someone against it unless you are someone Beyond anything ever seen

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck perfect! Just mimic a normal person! Like forreal, lets play their game and get our own cheese out of that.

 

[tadeuonbrand]

Here is the document of current study of Social Media against SPAM:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.230.1796&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

[klique]

I've read that before, it's actually not a bad read. Fits right into my line of work.

Here is the document of current study of Social Media against SPAM:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.230.1796&rep=rep1&type=pdf