Secrets behind 4G Mobile Proxies

klique said:
I've read that before, it's actually not a bad read. Fits right into my line of work.
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It is all about behaviour of all kind. How account is generated, how it uses the same internet/isp, different cookies, user-agents, etc.
The war is becaming complex with lot of factors! Every document I find, I try to read and decifer what they are doing.
 
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tadeuonbrand said:
It is all about behaviour of all kind. How account is generated, how it uses the same internet/isp, different cookies, user-agents, etc.
The war is becaming complex with lot of factors! Every document I find, I try to read and decifer what they are doing.
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Very true
 
Its not wise to get into a game where you never know the rules
Would you play a chess game where the game maker (opponent) can at any second give his units special actions that can make anything he want at anytime?
This is the same for ig
Keep wasting time until zuck change black for white and you was into the abyss again
Move forward
Evolve
Go further
Beyond Zuck
Beyond gates
Beyond the known
And when you reach the unknown embrace it
Then move
Then make like Plato and go back to the cave and maybe tell others the shadow they see ain’t monsters
Or keep wasting time
Tic toc
The mouse and the cheese
The cat belly is getting bigger and bigger
And a smart mouse die the same way a dumb one in this game
 
Thats my evolution baby ooooo yeahhhhh

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tadeuonbrand said:
What will come next to it ? What will evolve ? Probably pic verification, phrishing alerts, scrapping alert activitys, etc.
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Dont give them any ideas hahah like for real, i think instagram is lurking BHW :D
 
tadeuonbrand said:
1. Should the country of the account be the same as the user using it on Instagram APP ?
2. Rotating the Proxies during follow activity is a problem ? If no, what should be the right delay between rotation ?
3. Connecting to the proxy and doesnt be automatic redirected to web.facebook.com domain is a problem? (Facebook and Instagram are from some owner, so it should be considered)
4. Does 6.000 follow limit is true ?
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1) Yes and no. For example, in case you live in LA and pick the proxy from the same city, more likely you will get a proxy from another ISP/cellular provider than your current. In addition, any way you will have to rewarm your account if you would like to run it on some automated software because of software emulates a new hardware device ID, which has no trust with your account.

2) Originally rotating proxies were able to help keep the actions, when IG tried temporary block the action on a particular IP. That's why a simple rotating trick fixed the issues. Now its also working, but the mobile proxies is not a holy grail anymore.

3) I'll hold myself back here.

4) Directly depends on the account trust level, your actions, skils unfortunately and the software. In case of software could be detected - it doesn't matter hows good you are - anyway, u will get the problems. But in general even right now with the software its till possible to follow more than 6k users (once again depends on account to account)
 
Saly Verona said:
1) Yes and no. For example, in case you live in LA and pick the proxy from the same city, more likely you will get a proxy from another ISP/cellular provider than your current. In addition, any way you will have to rewarm your account if you would like to run it on some automated software because of software emulates a new hardware device ID, which has no trust with your account.

2) Originally rotating proxies were able to help keep the actions, when IG tried temporary block the action on a particular IP. That's why a simple rotating trick fixed the issues. Now its also working, but the mobile proxies is not a holy grail anymore.

3) I'll hold myself back here.

4) Directly depends on the account trust level, your actions, skils unfortunately and the software. In case of software could be detected - it doesn't matter hows good you are - anyway, u will get the problems. But in general even right now with the software its till possible to follow more than 6k users (once again depends on account to account)
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Since 2 weeks ago i feel like things get even harder.

Do you think making my own 4G proxies is a must nowadays? Or the market still have good proxies?
 
Lucas Br said:
Do you think making my own 4G proxies is a must nowadays? Or the market still have good proxies?
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I think making own software is a good idea or switching to real mobile phones ;)
For the proxies, simply choose the way which is better for you. Create your own or purchase - both options are good
 
Saly Verona said:
I think making own software is a good idea or switching to real mobile phones ;)
For the proxies, simply choose the way which is better for you. Create your own or purchase - both options are good
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Lets say i buy 5 phones and run 5 instagram accounts on each of them

I ll root every device and enforce all internet traffic going through a mobile 4G dedicated proxy, each device 1 proxy

I wont do any botting, i ll manage all accounts manually by hand

Is this safe? What are ur 2 Cents on that?

I do not have an in depht view on how things work fundamentaly, im still learning (for 2-3 weeks now)
But in my perspective instagram simply sees no connection between those accounts as all are different phones and all have a different mobile 4G Ip adress

After reading this whole thread tho, i have the impression that, with my actual skills, no matter what i do, instagram could detect that i have hundreds of accounts and ban them all

But i think through my manual Management and unique posting + different phones and different 4G proxies each + using only whitehat techniques i could raise my trust score enough so instagram wont ban my accounts
 
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draco02 said:
Lets say i buy 5 phones and run 5 instagram accounts on each of them

I ll root every device and enforce all internet traffic going through a mobile 4G dedicated proxy, each device 1 proxy

I wont do any botting, i ll manage all accounts manually by hand

Is this safe? What are ur 2 Cents on that?

I do not have an in depht view on how things work fundamentaly, im still learning (for 2-3 weeks now)
But in my perspective instagram simply sees no connection between those accounts as all are different phones and all have a different mobile 4G Ip adress
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Doesnt matter, all accounts will share the same device ID [problem 1] that once you cross the normal numbers 150 follow/day per account will start to trigger PV/EV or other headache counter measures by IG.
Each have have a unique ID once you download it from playstore or applestore, I dont know how its generated but I assume its the mix of device id, playstore/applestore id and the IP used to download. So if you use 5 accounts on same device app all of them share the same device ID and app ID.
 
Lucas Br said:
Since 2 weeks ago i feel like things get even harder.

Do you think making my own 4G proxies is a must nowadays? Or the market still have good proxies?
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Its something simple..
Providers have their servers/operation in a house/building in a specific area.. than we have 100 devices on the same radius, all doing actions that wasnt doing before.. as months go by the cell towers start to repeat themselves with the same actions coming from a specific radius.. its a cat and mouse game that as time goes by favor IG to detect all 4g providers since they cant change of area/radius so fast.
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
Doesnt matter, all accounts will share the same device ID [problem 1] that once you cross the normal numbers 150 follow/day per account will start to trigger PV/EV or other headache counter measures by IG.
Each have have a unique ID once you download it from playstore or applestore, I dont know how its generated but I assume its the mix of device id, playstore/applestore id and the IP used to download. So if you use 5 accounts on same device app all of them share the same device ID and app ID.
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Im aware of the fact that the 5 accounts on every phone share the same ip and device ID
But is this a problem?
If i stick to the 150ish follows per day per account on all 5 accounts each device?

Originally i wanted to use 1 account per phone but i heard 3-5 are fine, it s more profitable in the long run so i planned using 5 accounts per IP adress

Each phone gets an App ID once i download the instagram app? Okay that also connects the 5 accounts
But that doesnt connect these accounts with the accounts on the other phones right?
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
Its something simple..
Providers have their servers/operation in a house/building in a specific area.. than we have 100 devices on the same radius, all doing actions that wasnt doing before.. as months go by the cell towers start to repeat themselves with the same actions coming from a specific radius.. its a cat and mouse game that as time goes by favor IG to detect all 4g providers since they cant change of area/radius so fast.
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And by the way, i really really appreciate that you help me out. In my eyes youre one of the best people on this field, if not the best :D
 
draco02 said:
Im aware of the fact that the 5 accounts on every phone share the same ip and device ID
But is this a problem?
If i stick to the 150isg follows per day per account on all 5 accounts each device?

Originally i wanted to use 1 account per phone but i heard 3-5 are fine, it s more profitable in the long run so i planned using 5 accounts per IP adress

Each phone gets an App ID once i download the instagram app? Okay that also connects the 5 accounts
But that doesnt connect these accounts with the accounts on the other phones right?
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Well you have to see to know, I dont know your carrier neither how much IG will let you go by with that IP pool so who know..some phones work fine with 5, some cant even let 2 work properly, some allow 50+ accounts.. what I can tell you is that there are many other things that they use to track it down.

Also, take care of using proxy as IG can bypass the proxy connection and see the wifi its connected, you will need some "proxified " solution unless your phone doesnt allow this shady trick by IG
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
Well you have to see to know, I dont know your carrier neither how much IG will let you go by with that IP pool so who know..some phones work fine with 5, some cant even let 2 work properly, some allow 50+ accounts.. what I can tell you is that there are many other things that they use to track it down.

Also, take care of using proxy as IG can bypass the proxy connection and see the wifi its connected, you will need some "proxified " solution unless your phone doesnt allow this shady trick by IG
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I already said im gonna root the devices and enforce all internet traffic going through the proxies :D

But im happy that i found my Solution, not cheating or manipulating the system, rather "be the system" :)

And to that they would track me and ban all accounts, i think instagram wont do that since my trust scores will be high on every account

Yes, they could, that s the risk, but i ll take it

But in theory this should work right? Because normally instagram maybe bans like 10% max of my accounts, throughout the journey to grow them by hand i think
I mean instagram is not like youtube always mass banning every account
I calculate that i ll lose 10-20% of my accounts maybe (youtube botted in 2017, was a pain in the ass hahah)
 
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