Secrets behind 4G Mobile Proxies

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After several tests using IG and 4G different provider I have some doubts:

1. Should the country of the account be the same as the user using it on Instagram APP ?
2. Rotating the Proxies during follow activity is a problem ? If no, what should be the right delay between rotation ?
3. Connecting to the proxy and doesnt be automatic redirected to web.facebook.com domain is a problem? (Facebook and Instagram are from some owner, so it should be considered)
4. Does 6.000 follow limit is true ?

Please, only answer this questions if you are having success in follow more than 150 daily. There is too much amateurs opinions on BHW that isnt doing it using 4G.

Thanks :)
 
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tadeuonbrand said:
Are you running accounts and following more than 150 a day ?
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Which rotating proxy service do you use?
How often they switch ip?

I did up to 600 per day, from one account, personal, no proxy

It can be done without rotating proxy, just standard proxy list if it is in the same city area, or at least country and it changes ip once per day
 
1. Should the country of the account be the same as the user using it on Instagram APP ?
Doesn't have to be, if possible do it yes

2. Rotating the Proxies during follow activity is a problem ? If no, what should be the right delay between rotation ?
Rotating proxies is fine, especially when connecting multiple accounts (10-15) to 1 4G proxy.

3. Connecting to the proxy and doesnt be automatic redirected to web.facebook.com domain is a problem? (Facebook and Instagram are from some owner, so it should be considere)
If you are planning to use it purely for instagram this shouldn't be a problem, they limit the number of domains to reduce bandwhich usage and the abuse of the proxies for other intentions.
 
tadeuonbrand said:
After several tests using IG and 4G different provider I have some doubts:

1. Should the country of the account be the same as the user using it on Instagram APP ?
2. Rotating the Proxies during follow activity is a problem ? If no, what should be the right delay between rotation ?
3. Connecting to the proxy and doesnt be automatic redirected to web.facebook.com domain is a problem? (Facebook and Instagram are from some owner, so it should be considered)
4. Does 6.000 follow limit is true ?

Please, only answer this questions if you are having success in follow more than 150 daily. There is too much amateurs opinions on BHW that isnt doing it using 4G.

Thanks :)
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So from my experience the things that tend to help an account last the most is the way in which it was made, the uniqueness of the content, and the settings of the bot.

Usually once an account is made, it has a trust score initially given to it that determines how closely Instagram's bot detection API watches the future actions of the account. Instagram lists what they track in their privacy policy.
https://help.instagram.com/402411646841720

Analytics information: This one seems to be influenced the most by your bot settings.

Cookies and similar technologies: This one is affected by how clean the browser or mobile device is that you make the account on (there are ways to completely wipe browsers and devices)

Log file information: The biggy here is the IP address that they log. It seems the IP the account was made on affects the account's lifespan the most. Another thing is that you have to look at the network layer of the device. When sending packets, TCP/IP adds a lot of information on multiple layers. Proxies can only influence the topmost or HTTP layer of a packet. If you go to the IP layer however there's a header called the TTL. I'll let you research that, but different operating systems and devices assign different numbers to this value. So even if you're spoofing a User Agent of a browser, that's only affecting the HTTP header. You'll have to figure out for yourself what number your operating system assigns and how you can change it to mimic other devices. Hint: Look up Passive OS Fingerprinting

Device identifiers: Again this is another reason why a spoofed user agent isn't enough. Instagram is a lot more evasive on people's devices than they think.

Metadata: The information IG gives here is one where you have to read between the lines. If you're using the same content on multiple pages, YOU MUST at least be aware of how they can be traced and linked to one another. After you do that you have to learn how to change all of it. Hint: Look up file hash, pic metadata, image comparison algorithm

Once you know how to make extremely clean accounts, then you can get somewhere in terms of testing settings. I say this because I've gotten away with some pretty aggressive settings recently on new accounts as well as new accounts that kept getting PV'd every other day on some extremely lax settings. It seems that the more Instagram trusts an account initially, the more you can get away with. There are a few other secrets that I've figured out as well but I kinda don't even wanna give the hints out for those. I said that part to say keep testing, there are always small little exploits in code no matter how strict it seems. One day you might stumble across a few that make no sense why they work but they just do. Keep going.
 
Jibri Wright said:
So from my experience the things that tend to help an account last the most is the way in which it was made, the uniqueness of the content, and the settings of the bot.

Usually once an account is made, it has a trust score initially given to it that determines how closely Instagram's bot detection API watches the future actions of the account. Instagram lists what they track in their privacy policy.
https://help.instagram.com/402411646841720

Analytics information: This one seems to be influenced the most by your bot settings.

Cookies and similar technologies: This one is affected by how clean the browser or mobile device is that you make the account on (there are ways to completely wipe browsers and devices)

Log file information: The biggy here is the IP address that they log. It seems the IP the account was made on affects the account's lifespan the most. Another thing is that you have to look at the network layer of the device. When sending packets, TCP/IP adds a lot of information on multiple layers. Proxies can only influence the topmost or HTTP layer of a packet. If you go to the IP layer however there's a header called the TTL. I'll let you research that, but different operating systems and devices assign different numbers to this value. So even if you're spoofing a User Agent of a browser, that's only affecting the HTTP header. You'll have to figure out for yourself what number your operating system assigns and how you can change it to mimic other devices. Hint: Look up Passive OS Fingerprinting

Device identifiers: Again this is another reason why a spoofed user agent isn't enough. Instagram is a lot more evasive on people's devices than they think.

Metadata: The information IG gives here is one where you have to read between the lines. If you're using the same content on multiple pages, YOU MUST at least be aware of how they can be traced and linked to one another. After you do that you have to learn how to change all of it. Hint: Look up file hash, pic metadata, image comparison algorithm

Once you know how to make extremely clean accounts, then you can get somewhere in terms of testing settings. I say this because I've gotten away with some pretty aggressive settings recently on new accounts as well as new accounts that kept getting PV'd every other day on some extremely lax settings. It seems that the more Instagram trusts an account initially, the more you can get away with. There are a few other secrets that I've figured out as well but I kinda don't even wanna give the hints out for those. I said that part to say keep testing, there are always small little exploits in code no matter how strict it seems. One day you might stumble across a few that make no sense why they work but they just do. Keep going.
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Is selenium enough to configure all those settings inside?
 
So much good information coming from who know what is doing ! Thanks a lot who is answering my questions now :)
 
Does anyone know any method to create new accounts on Instagram? I was creating new accounts using android phone and 4G but it stopped working now
 
TahirTurk said:
Does anyone know any method to create new accounts on Instagram? I was creating new accounts using android phone and 4G but it stopped working now
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There are still ways to make unlimited accounts all in good standing. Keep testing! I doubt anyone on here will give you their methods. Again research what can be tracked and find ways around them one by one. Only the strong survive :)
 
Bebeto said:
Is selenium enough to configure all those settings inside?
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I would stay away from Selenium entirely. It leaves a huge footprint and Instagram can detect it immediately. I tried automating account creation using Selenium back in the day and it didn't work. I doubt it'll go through nowadays.
 
tadeuonbrand said:
Is the 6.000 monthly follow a myth ? Can you do more than that ?
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Now that I'm not really sure of, in my opinion however I think all of these IG limits are a myth to some extent(my opinion). The thing is that these limits people are finding aren't actually based on testing and counting the amount of actions that were permitted for a month. Rather they were judged solely by the amount of actions the accounts of their bots could handle for a few given days without much problems, then extrapolated outward for the entire month. But even that is completely subjective. What were the nature of the accounts that were tested on? How old were they? What type of proxy were they on? Etc... The botting community does in many cases tend to have a hive mentality when it comes to things like testing, settings, best practices, etc. This may largely be due to the fact however that most people don't really know what they're doing and are a little to proud to admit it :) yes I do have some accounts that have gotten over the 6,000 action limit this month as well as some that haven't gotten close. I can go into depth on how Instagram has actually trained us all into thinking they use these silly limits in the first place lol.
 
extreme404 said:
very hard to create an account for now, almost impossible
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Actually not, i created 60 accounts last week with this method but i think it would have some other steps to do in order to increase account trust scores
 
Lucas Br said:
Actually not, i created 60 accounts last week with this method but i think it would have some other steps to do in order to increase account trust scores
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Try now, it happen like 1-2 days ago, can't create account
 
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