Secrets behind 4G Mobile Proxies

tadeuonbrand said:
Are you sure rotating is a good ideia?

Imagine this scenario:

Pool of proxies: 10.000
IG automation users tools using that network: 1.200

Same IP with different IG accounts accessing it in a single day or a few packs of days: Surely will reach 1.200 people rotating so many times.
A real user in a day has more or less a max of 5 - 10 ips rotations if he is travelling, restarting mobile, etc.

It is a huge pattern to fuck 4G network !
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I never said rotating is a good idea. I said : There are 4G proxy providers that do not force IP rotations every 5-20 minutes which are huge red flags to the bot detection systems.

Which means that I'm saying that it's not a good idea. Not sure why you thought I said it was good.

Also Verizon or AT&T wireless has like 100mm IP's not 10k.
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So if you're able to hop around to different locations in the USA alone you have access to hundreds of millions of IP's.
 
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tadeuonbrand said:
Imagine this scenario:

Pool of proxies: 10.000
IG automation users tools using that network: 1.200
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A network such as Verizon with 118,000,000+ users is going to have millions upon millions of IPs. Let's not forget there are 4 huge networks with over 400,000,000+ users just in the USA, each needs their own IP.
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
I won’t extend this so much but
You can spoof imeis or even “generate new ones “, unless they really spoof real devices it’s useless because one of IG/FB measures against fraud is checking their databases of IMEIS that already been used to ig or fb.
It’s like you want to use a fake ID against cia/fbi just because you are good with photoshop

Instead of focusing into try to become the shady guy with a mask in the middle of a electro club just fit into and you will be good
Or try to be the shady guy anyone’s spot kilometers afar
Ps
Any method leaked here is literally dead (will be) so choose words carefully
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They can leak information... but we can leak false information too !
It will be a mix of true and false information !
 
proxyguys said:
Apple does not leak IMEI. FB/IG has no way of obtaining it. Now prior to iOS 7 is a different story (many years ago) and I can't speak for Android either.
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Yes, the law is never broken because its written There, and errors never happen because teory is perfect.

Html5 and Canvas+ javascript+ time response fingerprint
Those are things you probably never heard about It but can track all your Lineage If activated

You are like the guys who claim that T0r is bulletproof while using computers with Int3l processor with encoder spy programs through hardware exploit

Keep on the ilusion that a billionaire/trillionaire Corporation known to hide their shady past never do anything wrong

I am getting tired
Its like talking to a wall
And isnt a cool wall
 
If you get raw proxies (each user gets dedicated modem), you might share ip's, just like users within the same cell tower would share the same ip's. (device id's and patterns will be different).
Also there are providers out there(not here AFAIK), that can/will provide you with a custom link, that you can setup to at your will(curl script or such), change the ip. Not really sure, how they force ip release...

mdntblu said:
I never said rotating is a good idea. I said : There are 4G proxy providers that do not force IP rotations every 5-20 minutes which are huge red flags to the bot detection systems.

Which means that I'm saying that it's not a good idea. Not sure why you thought I said it was good.

So if you're able to hop around to different locations in the USA alone you have access to hundreds of millions of IP's.
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Confusing your statement(or just don't sleep well as of late). Soo, you saying it's a good idea or not?
Because you "never said rotating is a good idea". "But providers that don't force IP rotation, are huge red flags".
 
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tadeuonbrand said:
I can generate as many IG I want. I'm trying to figure what will come ahead. If IMEI cant be traced, then what we have to search is subnet / ip ranges that arent hurt by Instagram.

With Instagram and Facebook, to survive the game we need to be ahead of what they are doing or thinking. What will be next pattern block waves, etc. Otherwise we will be on a endless game of cat and rat !

This fucking subnet blocking IP wave is the next war game they are playing now. What will come next to it ? What will evolve ? Probably pic verification, phrishing alerts, scrapping alert activitys, etc.

In the past they are trying to compromise software that make automation. Now they forget that idea and are focusing on network. And network will eliminate everyone that is n00b using automation. Software cant handle that and proxy providers cant manage it too !
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I don't think IG will go much farther than they already have. Tbh they're reaching the limits of just how much they can control legally. So in my opinion you're currently going through the worse they can really throw at us.
mdntblu said:
There are 4G proxy providers that do not force IP rotations every 5-20 minutes which are huge red flags to the bot detection systems. Sure a mobile user driving down a freeway will jump cell towers, but their not changing IPs every few minutes, thus a huge red flag...factor that in with other odd behavior like following 100+ people a day and its a recipe for a ban/block.

Also when accessing a website via mobile there is no way to determine your IMEI or Serial # (only a device ID/fingerprint which is easily changeable) as they are simply not passed during the https transaction and thus there is NO way to obtain it. Apple blocks app developers from obtaining your IMEI & Serial # so using the Instagram app will not provide IG with that info either. Most people creating IG accounts through a proxy are using the website (instagram.com), not the app, granted makes no difference, neither way provides your IMEI or Serial # to IG.

You're going to want to find a provider that has 4G proxies that do not change IP on timed rotation. Most back connect ones do just that. The other problem is non-rotating 4G proxies will be much more expensive.
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Tbh making an account through the app as opposed to a browser makes a world of difference. Especially with the new update released a couple days ago, the difference is literally night and day.
tadeuonbrand said:
Are you sure rotating is a good ideia?

Imagine this scenario:

Pool of proxies: 10.000
IG automation users tools using that network: 1.200

Same IP with different IG accounts accessing it in a single day or a few packs of days: Surely will reach 1.200 people rotating so many times.
A real user in a day has more or less a max of 5 - 10 ips rotations if he is travelling, restarting mobile, etc.

It is a huge pattern to fuck 4G network !
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Rotations from my research are honestly a really good thing. It adds a lot of realness to the account. If you're having issues then it honestly may just be your bot settings that aren't tuned correctly. Trial and error.
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
Yes, the law is never broken because its written There, and errors never happen because teory is perfect.

Html5 and Canvas+ javascript+ time response fingerprint
Those are things you probably never heard about It but can track all your Lineage If activated

You are like the guys who claim that T0r is bulletproof while using computers with Int3l processor with encoder spy programs through hardware exploit

Keep on the ilusion that a billionaire/trillionaire Corporation known to hide their shady past never do anything wrong

I am getting tired
Its like talking to a wall
And isnt a cool wall
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Also from my knowledge BrazilianBusinessman is also still in the game and has his own method that works. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about 100%, but the people who are still doing this know that anything is possible, and there isn't one answer for everything.
 
g3lux said:
If you get raw proxies (each user gets dedicated modem), you might share ip's, just like users within the same cell tower would share the same ip's. (device id's and patterns will be different).
Also there are providers out there(not here AFAIK), that can/will provide you with a custom link, that you can setup to at your will(curl script or such), change the ip. Not really sure, how they force ip release...



Confusing your statement(or just don't sleep well as of late). Soo, you saying it's a good idea or not?
Because you "never said rotating is a good idea". "But providers that don't force IP rotation, are huge red flags".
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g3lux said:
If you get raw proxies (each user gets dedicated modem), you might share ip's, just like users within the same cell tower would share the same ip's. (device id's and patterns will be different).
Also there are providers out there(not here AFAIK), that can/will provide you with a custom link, that you can setup to at your will(curl script or such), change the ip. Not really sure, how they force ip release...



Confusing your statement(or just don't sleep well as of late). Soo, you saying it's a good idea or not?
Because you "never said rotating is a good idea". "But providers that don't force IP rotation, are huge red flags".
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How are Mark Zuckenberg health ?
 
Jibri Wright said:
So from my experience the things that tend to help an account last the most is the way in which it was made, the uniqueness of the content, and the settings of the bot.

Usually once an account is made, it has a trust score initially given to it that determines how closely Instagram's bot detection API watches the future actions of the account. Instagram lists what they track in their privacy policy.
https://help.instagram.com/402411646841720

Analytics information: This one seems to be influenced the most by your bot settings.

Cookies and similar technologies: This one is affected by how clean the browser or mobile device is that you make the account on (there are ways to completely wipe browsers and devices)

Log file information: The biggy here is the IP address that they log. It seems the IP the account was made on affects the account's lifespan the most. Another thing is that you have to look at the network layer of the device. When sending packets, TCP/IP adds a lot of information on multiple layers. Proxies can only influence the topmost or HTTP layer of a packet. If you go to the IP layer however there's a header called the TTL. I'll let you research that, but different operating systems and devices assign different numbers to this value. So even if you're spoofing a User Agent of a browser, that's only affecting the HTTP header. You'll have to figure out for yourself what number your operating system assigns and how you can change it to mimic other devices. Hint: Look up Passive OS Fingerprinting

Device identifiers: Again this is another reason why a spoofed user agent isn't enough. Instagram is a lot more evasive on people's devices than they think.

Metadata: The information IG gives here is one where you have to read between the lines. If you're using the same content on multiple pages, YOU MUST at least be aware of how they can be traced and linked to one another. After you do that you have to learn how to change all of it. Hint: Look up file hash, pic metadata, image comparison algorithm

Once you know how to make extremely clean accounts, then you can get somewhere in terms of testing settings. I say this because I've gotten away with some pretty aggressive settings recently on new accounts as well as new accounts that kept getting PV'd every other day on some extremely lax settings. It seems that the more Instagram trusts an account initially, the more you can get away with. There are a few other secrets that I've figured out as well but I kinda don't even wanna give the hints out for those. I said that part to say keep testing, there are always small little exploits in code no matter how strict it seems. One day you might stumble across a few that make no sense why they work but they just do. Keep going.
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Mate. I just came in my pants haha.
This info was fucking sick!!

Thank you very much. Can't wait to find out more info on stuff like this!!
 
What the average price range for 4g proxies and are they really worth the extra money?
 
BrazilianBusinessman said:
Yes, the law is never broken because its written There, and errors never happen because teory is perfect.

Html5 and Canvas+ javascript+ time response fingerprint
Those are things you probably never heard about It but can track all your Lineage If activated

You are like the guys who claim that T0r is bulletproof while using computers with Int3l processor with encoder spy programs through hardware exploit

Keep on the ilusion that a billionaire/trillionaire Corporation known to hide their shady past never do anything wrong

I am getting tired
Its like talking to a wall
And isnt a cool wall
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Thats why I dont use Jarvee and any of this crap tools on internet :)
 
I bought a 4g proxy from the marketplace here, was guaranteed it was from "USA"... its a fucking russian ip

the quality control of this site has gone downhill
 
Alex N. said:
and do everything manually?
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Use a good provider that has an excellent support that listen to your querys !

This fucking Jarvee ignores and thinks it is the MASTER of AUTOMATION TOOL.

Their scrap tool for facebook, instagram and everything is a shit. You insert the account, activate campaign, account block !
 
Jibri Wright said:
I would stay away from Selenium entirely. It leaves a huge footprint and Instagram can detect it immediately. I tried automating account creation using Selenium back in the day and it didn't work. I doubt it'll go through nowadays.
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What do you use then?
 
tadeuonbrand said:
Use a good provider that has an excellent support that listen to your querys !

This fucking Jarvee ignores and thinks it is the MASTER of AUTOMATION TOOL.

Their scrap tool for facebook, instagram and everything is a shit. You insert the account, activate campaign, account block !
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Just warning you before you get in trouble for nothing
Jarvee have a topic on marketplace
You didnt did a shitlist or a public claim
You aint Júnior vip

There are some rules here and basically you are going against a known Tool and vendor, without even pay bhw and even trashing other things too.

Just telling you before you say A and get kicked because of This.

Anyway none tool is perfect and I dare Someone who invest less than 100k to build his own Tool thinking he fooled a billionaire/trillionaire business for real.

I wont even get into several fingerprints and ways of tracking because you all forgot that ig/FB basically have one of the biggest or the biggest database of devices and connections.

You think you are fooling them because you paid a mid tier coder to spoof emulated user agents while all using known pools of carriers that are already on their catálog

1- unless you can create a connection assigned to a New Carrier you are still being tracked
2- unless you have a way to spoof literally residential ips with aged pools There is no way to fooling a database system
3- being able to continue doesnt mean you fooled anything
4- If you are able to do 2 you are commiting several crimes, If you wanna do crime There are plenty ways to do besides IG

IMEI spoofing, interception and no allowed use of private connections is a crime in the majority of countries, so before claiming you do crime in a public fórum remember MP was legally sued by IG
 
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