Do you believe in Global Warming and Climate Change ?

[Sristy]

Yes. I believe in Global warming. Day Zero is happening in Southern India. Especially in Tamil Nadu.

That's true. Too much of water scarity all over India. Tasmarc is available but..

 

[Houdinii]

If I ball myself up in the fetal position, I'm just a little bigger than the size of a large case of water. I explained to someone shopping that the bottles they saw didn't exist until man made them and will probably exist far into the future. I asked a clerk how often they have to fill up the water aisle at Sams. The dude said they restock it all twice a week. So at that specific Sams, and probably more like ALL Sams Clubs in the US sell at a rate of 200 cases of water a week. Now, I know they flatten out, etc, but if you empty a bag of 34 empty bottles on the ground, not a whole lot of space is saved. It's still about the size of me curled up in a ball. That means that every week, each of these very specific stores is sprinkling about 75 plastic me's around the Earth, and it's going to stay here indefinitely, at least in human terms. The person I was with still believes the Earth is too big to effect even with all this going on... That's not counting the factories that make the bottles, or bottle the water itself. And it's only limited to the one item. To be honest, I have no clue how we don't have to dig ourselves out of our houses every day with gas masks on already.

 

[aidenhera]

probably yes because its very hot recently, and every year summer is hotter.

in few years africa etc may have to emmigrate to europe if it will get too hot there, other than that i dont think humanity (during our lives, so up to next 80 years) is endangered

 

[burakuwingu]

The thing about global warming is that they are all talking about man induced global warming which does not exist, while using results of natural global warming which exists, as evidence.

The Sun is getting hotter every single moment, Earth is never in the same position and that is all there is to the infamous global warming. No human technology could ever influence macroclimate even the tiniest bit. There were many climate changes way before technology of today existed and that is completely normal and natural.

In the 1800s some parts of Europe literally went from climate similar to today's, to mini ice age and back to this climate they have now.
Deserts are going from lakes to swamps to meadows and deserts in cycles constantly.

Humans are just an insignificant tiny microfactor which is unable to do a proper weather forecast, let alone influence climate on a macro level.

 

[PropertyGrow]

Geo-engineering > man-made global warming

Research this topic and start looking at the sky.
We are being manipulated into believing we must reduce our economic in order to save the planet, while cloud seeding produces way more harmful pollution that you driving your SUV.

It has been definitely colder in recent years up here in Canada. Your rarely see real deep blue sky. There is always some haze from aerosol spraying. Most of the time we have depressive greyness in the skies.

 

[t2van]

If I ball myself up in the fetal position, I'm just a little bigger than the size of a large case of water. I explained to someone shopping that the bottles they saw didn't exist until man made them and will probably exist far into the future. I asked a clerk how often they have to fill up the water aisle at Sams. The dude said they restock it all twice a week. So at that specific Sams, and probably more like ALL Sams Clubs in the US sell at a rate of 200 cases of water a week. Now, I know they flatten out, etc, but if you empty a bag of 34 empty bottles on the ground, not a whole lot of space is saved. It's still about the size of me curled up in a ball. That means that every week, each of these very specific stores is sprinkling about 75 plastic me's around the Earth, and it's going to stay here indefinitely, at least in human terms. The person I was with still believes the Earth is too big to effect even with all this going on... That's not counting the factories that make the bottles, or bottle the water itself. And it's only limited to the one item. To be honest, I have no clue how we don't have to dig ourselves out of our houses every day with gas masks on already.

No doubt one of the reasons we don't see it all is because that plastic is reused.

 

[GenesisOne]

For sure it's "real." Fact: Humans are destined for mass extinction or mass exodus where we move to a different planet or moon or such.

The planet Earth cannot support our behaviors. Asteroids, the sun dying, rising tides, glaciers melting. It's only a matter of time.

Highly recommend not having children. There are very few intelligent arguments for having children, unless they are going to be significant contributors to the scientific or engineering community that save more lives than they cost. If you are just going to have average kids who live average lives, highly recommend adoption.

We aren't moving from this planet in the next thousand years. We can't but within the naive imagination of the marvel+playstation generation.
Rather we will suffer from our own foolish behaviors.

And yes, climate change is true, but to it you need to add a lot more of trouble factors.
http://berkeleyearth.org/
https://www.amazon.com/Limits-Growth-Donella-H-Meadows/dp/193149858X

Good luck with apocalypse

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[Houdinii]

No doubt one of the reasons we don't see it all is because that plastic is reused.

See, that's the bad thing. Almost everyone I know uses these huge blue bins for recycling thinking it's helping, etc. But as it turns out, the city I live in has no where to process all the recycling so it mostly all goes into the trash anyway. Even if we assume everyone's recycling goes to the proper places, if you factor in the trucks to pick it up, the labor required to process it, and the machinery to actually do the process, it costs a ton of money and that money is made by creating something in a factory somewhere else to sell a lot of times. The bad thing is, a big part of the solution is for consumers to refuse all the packaging. We got in this mindset that if we recycle it, we can buy up and use all we want. The cool part? People are finally waking up to the idea that we made a wrong turn somewhere.

 

[QTB]

Yes, although it's easier to adapt to it than to prevent it

 

[t2van]

See, that's the bad thing. Almost everyone I know uses these huge blue bins for recycling thinking it's helping, etc. But as it turns out, the city I live in has no where to process all the recycling so it mostly all goes into the trash anyway. Even if we assume everyone's recycling goes to the proper places, if you factor in the trucks to pick it up, the labor required to process it, and the machinery to actually do the process, it costs a ton of money and that money is made by creating something in a factory somewhere else to sell a lot of times. The bad thing is, a big part of the solution is for consumers to refuse all the packaging. We got in this mindset that if we recycle it, we can buy up and use all we want. The cool part? People are finally waking up to the idea that we made a wrong turn somewhere.

Nah it gets shipped out of your city to another city or country that can process it. I think if recycling bins ended up on the standard trash pile some save the planet group would have had a shit fit by now.

 

[sony108]

Climate change and overpopulation, who hits first?
I think we are already at the point of no return. My question is what to do .. For now I live in andes mountain, patagonia and I see year after year as it changes, glaciers recede, less snow falls and it is hotter.
But.. Who hits first?

 

[Houdinii]

Climate change and overpopulation, who hits first?
I think we are already at the point of no return. My question is what to do .. For now I live in andes mountain, patagonia and I see year after year as it changes, glaciers recede, less snow falls and it is hotter.
But.. Who hits first?

Well, with all the ice melting, surely the pre-human viruses once frozen in the permafrost will make us all zombies long before either happens...

 

[MrRandQm]

There's been permafrost where i'm now and there's been water where I'm now. Do we have some effect, most likely, but instead of fighting nature, adapt as we always did.

My solar panel is nice to keep my own air cleaner, but it's not gonna help the climate of the planet as long as they're produced with coal factories and the waste dumped in africa. Source, brother in law owns a solar panel company.

The guy that decides to take the train instead of the plane, guess what he's train ticket is flown in by plane because it's printed by company X in country Y.

While we pay extra taxes on plastic at checkout, its the companies that deliver us the products in plastic.

While we invest in wind energy at the same time we keep building new coal factories.
As long as it's not profitable for companies to go green don't even worry about it.

If this whole thing was really serious they'd take action right now, like they did with the hole in the ozon layer.
Now it's just a marketing method to get in your pockets.

And OP do you really think your hybrid car is gonna do shit if every time you hit the gas 1000 people are born that grow up in 3rd world countries that have a free card on pollution because it's a developing nation. Overpopulation is a much more serious issue we'll have to deal with

 

[Sristy]

As a farmer I think the climate has changed - I can see it. Reflected in how long / late / early the growing seasons are at the moment not to mention the weather patterns changing. But then it's all a cycle.

Global warming. Not sure on that one. It's pushed too much by the media and governments for me to give it that much credibility. Don't think we have enough historical data to say what the effect is, after all the globe was once hot as it was cold, everything is a circle and a pattern that comes around who's to say we are not heading towards a warming cycle.

It's the whole plastic thing again here in the UK they keep pushing US the consumer to use less plastic when the focus should be on the manufacture nothing is being done there - yet if I go to the supermarket after introducing a bag tax (5p - 15p for a plastic bag) they now wrap the meat and or fish in a small plastic bag for free.. makes zero sense.

UK gov also had pushed everyone to start buying diesel cars - everyone got suckered into it and now they want to tax you higher for driving a diesel more so if you are in a congested area. It's always pushed that "WE" (the public) should be doing something but when other nations don't do anything nor does the government or world leaders push anything on them countries to make change then I can't see there being that much of a threat - they like to pass the blame to keep us in check.

If the government says to do one thing or has an agenda to push some view on us/me id always rather do the opposite.

I thought Europe is leading in climate change control..

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

The thing about global warming is that they are all talking about man induced global warming which does not exist, while using results of natural global warming which exists, as evidence.

The Sun is getting hotter every single moment, Earth is never in the same position and that is all there is to the infamous global warming. No human technology could ever influence macroclimate even the tiniest bit. There were many climate changes way before technology of today existed and that is completely normal and natural.

In the 1800s some parts of Europe literally went from climate similar to today's, to mini ice age and back to this climate they have now.
Deserts are going from lakes to swamps to meadows and deserts in cycles constantly.

Humans are just an insignificant tiny microfactor which is unable to do a proper weather forecast, let alone influence climate on a macro level.

So the climate change is happening in this fast pace just because of the Sun getting hotter? And we humans don't have any impact?
You don't have to be a scientist to notice the large scale of deforestation as a serious human impact on the planet. Blaming the Sun only was a fad roughly 15 years ago, when a study was released, but even that came to the conclusion that the Sun in itself cannot be held responsible. The study was based on results of 50 years, out of those in the last 20 years the Sun didn't become hotter (the number of sunspots remained roughly constant), yet the temperature on Earth continued to increase.
Since then one and a half decade passed, methodology developed a lot, by now scientist can determine exactly how much of the greenhouse gases are human induced. They can tell the difference between man induced CO2 (e.g. CO2 from burning fossil fuels) and CO2, which belong to the natural carbon cycle. It's measurable, it's adding up year by year. It's not a guessing game anymore.
It's not just the gases, while burning the bio mass the carbon ends up in dark-colored soot thanks to the incomplete burning, when this material covers snow/ice surface, you also don't have to be a scientist to understand how that contributes to the melting of the ice and increasing temperatures. But this soot doesn't have to cover ice, it can cover any surface and make it darker, which leads to temperature increase.

The thing about the climate change is that you can't blame it on one thing, all the possible causing factors need to be looked at in conjunction.

 

[Sristy]

So the climate change is happening in this fast pace just because of the Sun getting hotter? And we humans don't have any impact?
You don't have to be a scientist to notice the large scale of deforestation as a serious human impact on the planet. Blaming the Sun only was a fad roughly 15 years ago, when a study was released, but even that came to the conclusion that the Sun in itself cannot be held responsible. The study was based on results of 50 years, out of those in the last 20 years the Sun didn't become hotter (the number of sunspots remained roughly constant), yet the temperature on Earth continued to increase.
Since then one and a half decade passed, methodology developed a lot, by now scientist can determine exactly how much of the greenhouse gases are human induced. They can tell the difference between man induced CO2 (e.g. CO2 from burning fossil fuels) and CO2, which belong to the natural carbon cycle. It's measurable, it's adding up year by year. It's not a guessing game anymore.
It's not just the gases, while burning the bio mass the carbon ends up in dark-colored soot thanks to the incomplete burning, when this material covers snow/ice surface, you also don't have to be a scientist to understand how that contributes to the melting of the ice and increasing temperatures. But this soot doesn't have to cover ice, it can cover any surface and make it darker, which leads to temperature increase.

The thing about the climate change is that you can't blame it on one thing, all the possible causing factors need to be looked at in conjunction.

True. We can try reduce carbon emission as much as possible..

 

[Deleted member 657006]

i beleve becouse it real not a belief.

everyone no it real just by the weathers behaviour .

 

[ExperimentalSEO]

I believe in global warming but I'd still rather drive a Pickup truck over a tiny uncomfortable death trap.

 

[710fla]

Earth gets hotter and colder. Always have since the start of time.

Should we be polluting so much? Of course not

 

[MrRandQm]

So the climate change is happening in this fast pace just because of the Sun getting hotter? And we humans don't have any impact?
You don't have to be a scientist to notice the large scale of deforestation as a serious human impact on the planet. Blaming the Sun only was a fad roughly 15 years ago, when a study was released, but even that came to the conclusion that the Sun in itself cannot be held responsible. The study was based on results of 50 years, out of those in the last 20 years the Sun didn't become hotter (the number of sunspots remained roughly constant), yet the temperature on Earth continued to increase.
Since then one and a half decade passed, methodology developed a lot, by now scientist can determine exactly how much of the greenhouse gases are human induced. They can tell the difference between man induced CO2 (e.g. CO2 from burning fossil fuels) and CO2, which belong to the natural carbon cycle. It's measurable, it's adding up year by year. It's not a guessing game anymore.
It's not just the gases, while burning the bio mass the carbon ends up in dark-colored soot thanks to the incomplete burning, when this material covers snow/ice surface, you also don't have to be a scientist to understand how that contributes to the melting of the ice and increasing temperatures. But this soot doesn't have to cover ice, it can cover any surface and make it darker, which leads to temperature increase.

The thing about the climate change is that you can't blame it on one thing, all the possible causing factors need to be looked at in conjunction.

You put a lot of text when you could put it in 1 word. Overpopulation.