NINJA WAY TO MAKE A QUICK 500$ RECURRING PASSIVE INCOME

[Kevoss]

With my clients I send them a couple of free leads to get them on board with a phone call and then once they buy I send them via email. Should they want them sent telephonically I would do that but the most efficient method is email.


What does it change if you talk to the lead instead of sending it straight to your client? You charge more? How do you justify charging more for talking to the client first?

Surely you charge more as you are making sure that there is an appointment.

If you want to make real money you have to work and that little effort is well worth the difference between the pennies suggested as opposed to the dollars you can make with a 5 minute phone call.

When you say set an appointment you mean you send your client straight to the lead's location? Doesn't he need to talk with them first? If he needs to talk with them, you tell the lead please wait until an expert calls you back... If the lead is in a hurry he won't wait and he'll call elsewhere?

 

[OmegaRank]

With my clients I send them a couple of free leads to get them on board with a phone call and then once they buy I send them via email. Should they want them sent telephonically I would do that but the most efficient method is email.


What does it change if you talk to the lead instead of sending it straight to your client? You charge more? How do you justify charging more for talking to the client first?

Surely you charge more as you are making sure that there is an appointment.

If you want to make real money you have to work and that little effort is well worth the difference between the pennies suggested as opposed to the dollars you can make with a 5 minute phone call.

But how do you justify the loss of time which can be donated towards other properties? There is a reason why its called as LEADS not CUSTOMERS . And honestly a real plumbing company would be able to turn the lead into an actual customer better than us, thats what i think.

 

[Nicololo]

But I do think that you can control much more how many calls arrive and charge more.

Absolutely and that is the way to make real money and not nickels and dimes.

Undoubtedly, how do you configure your GMB? Images, title, description.
Based on your plumber? Or as a plumber company?
Because I think that simply put "Plumbers in suburb" and put pixabay images does not look very reliable, although I do not know.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

When you say set an appointment you mean you send your client straight to the lead's location? Doesn't he need to talk with them first? If he needs to talk with them, you tell the lead please wait until an expert calls you back... If the lead is in a hurry he won't wait and he'll call elsewhere?

It depends on the industry.

Landscapers don't quote over the phone but show up in person to get a contract.
Solar guys are the same.
Roofers are also the same.
Tree guys are also the same.
Plumbers are quick to respond with a lead and can give hourly rates over the phone and a general time frame for some jobs.
Asphalt guys bill by the square foot but want to look at the ground in the even that it needs more than just a layer of asphalt.
Same with concrete guys.

I could go on and on but think what does the provider need to be able to bid and you'll see that taking the call is a piece of cake and 5 times the money of those that don't get involved and it is 5 minutes of work for a lead on your end.

But I do think that you can control much more how many calls arrive and charge more.

Absolutely and that is the way to make real money and not nickels and dimes.

Undoubtedly, how do you configure your GMB? Images, title, description.
Based on your plumber? Or as a plumber company?
Because I think that simply put "Plumbers in suburb" and put pixabay images does not look very reliable, although I do not know.

Pixabay images?

Who uses them for a real business?

I share what I do as to getting ranked in Google earlier in this thread... GMB is not actually the best way to get business for the trade services.

It is one way but not the best way by any means.

 

[OmegaRank]

Lets not confuse this thread as LEARN COMPLETE SEO. This is just a quick strategy to earn quick money and ofc can be scaled. This isnt something about doing everything completely. This is just a very quick way to generate nice income. Let us first make that clear distinction here.

 

[SOCOM]

1) Do you sign a contract with these companies or do you send a lead to them and then ask them for the money?

2) if you're managing more than one listing, and taking the calls, how do you get it all forwarded to the same phone number, while also knowing how to answer the phone (whether you're a plumbing company or concrete)?

Cheers

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

1) Do you sign a contract with these companies or do you send a lead to them and then ask them for the money?

No physical contract - it is all done over the phone.

I have them pay for 10 leads in advance once they are fine with what I am offering.

2) if you're managing more than one listing, and taking the calls, how do you get it all forwarded to the same phone number, while also knowing how to answer the phone (whether you're a plumbing company or concrete)?

Cheers

Answering the phone is easy, "Hello, how can I help you?". Very rarely is that something that someone has an issue with.

 

[Neptune's Kiss]

Very interesting discussion. I like seeing these types of threads

 

[Kevoss]

No physical contract - it is all done over the phone.

I have them pay for 10 leads in advance once they are fine with what I am offering.



Answering the phone is easy, "Hello, how can I help you?". Very rarely is that something that someone has an issue with.

How do you find clients who don't already have a website? Local newspapers ad section?

 

[OmegaRank]

How do you find clients who don't already have a website? Local newspapers ad section?

Its not like you target only those who doesnt have a website yet. The ideal clients are those who are advertising already (ppc) on platforms like google, yelp, yellowpages, home advisor for your keyword.

 

[James2]

I actually use that strategy and have for years in multiple industries and it does work very well.

I think I first started doing it in 2008 with one small industry and saw how nice it worked for that little industry and then realized it could be used in many industries.

You can expand that from just using sites and GMB listings to local classified sites, social media and the like and you will end up not only covering those mediums but finding those posts showing up in Google.

And... you can expand it even more and get even a more targeted client by advertising specifics inside that industry. You use Plumber Oakland Park (Oakland Park is actually a suburb of Ft Lauderdale not Miami but I know that because I used to serve that area for a business) but you would get a more targeted client using Water Heater Replacement Oakland Park. You can address that on your web site if you want but that is really a better way to target the rank and rent or to sell leads to plumbers.

Did you buy Chaddo's map cash back in 08? That's where I learnt this.

 

[Nicololo]

I share what I do as to getting ranked in Google earlier in this thread... GMB is not actually the best way to get business for the trade services.

It is one way but not the best way by any means.

Basically you position the website of plumbers in suburb and the GMB. And then you can scale it with social networks.

You handle the phone and send the Leads that arrive to your plumber or plumbers, but not only with GMB but also with the website and social networks.

At least that I understood lol.

 

[TonyAl]

Hello guys, this is one of the very first posts here. But i wanna quickly give you a working startegy which i hv used to build out a lead gen empire!(not to brag, but someone somewhere can learn a thing or two which can transform their lives)

BTW, this strategy is related to local seo, that is rank and rent/lead gen.

DISCLAIMER: This strategy is already being used by many and in no way i am calling it mine or something mindboggling its just something very thinkable of but yet 80% people arent implementing it and hence i am creating this post.!

A lot of people are doing the lead generation model in a very constipated way that means they arent taking full advantage of the system effectively. And also they are spending a lot of time and energy which can be greatly cut down if anyone is using this method. Traditionally people are picking a medium difficulty local keyword lets say plumbers miami and they put up a website with your keyword in it and blah blah, working their backside off for 2-3 months to rank the website on the first page. Obviously this is a very tiresome process. And also some slightly smart people just go for a gmb and pray to rank it in a city and generate leads, even they take a lot of time.

BUT, here comes the strategy i am talking about.
Here the main focus is on gmb only, website is optional.

Picking a niche:
This is one of the most cruical aspects of this process. A good niche should meet the following requirements: Urgency based, home service usually works best(personal preference), medium- high ticket, service that deals with calls example: plumber.

Picking the keywords:
Now choose a city of your choice. Lets say you hv it as miami. Now traditionally people would search for mainstream keywords like plumbing miami,plumbers miami etc and try to rank for it. This is where this strategy differs. Instead of choosing the city based keywords, shift your focus to the near-by SUBURBS. Use google to find out the near by suburbs and brainstom your niche+suburb keywords. Example: if your city is miami, you can search for keywords in oakland park(which is a suburb of miami) and see if it has any volume. Once you have found out your keyword, get a gmb listing verified from someone. There are many guys who provide instant gmb verification service.

The biggest advantage you have with this method is that usually the suburb gmbs have very poor serps, it would usually be just 1 page of results. So once you get your listing verified there is an overwhelming chance that you can rank off in the top 3 straight away. Similarly pick 3-5 suburbs and do the same. Now you will be having a handsome call volume/ leads to sell to a plumber in miami. This whole process can be done within few days maximum and requires atmost carelessness! LAZY MONEY lol.

You can take it one notch higher. When you are getting your gmb lisitings done in a suburb, instead of getting 1 gmb verified, you can get like 3-4 gmbs verified in that suburb and they all can be optimized so that all 3 gmbs ranking in the map pack are yours. Total gmb domination lol. People would have no choice other than to call you in this case. Similarly you can do for all the suburbs and pretty much RANK and BANK.
The only cost here would be the cost for your gmb lsitings to get verified, which you can get it for cheap if you buy in bulk by the providers.
with the proper keywords you can defintely drive around 100-200 calls a month dead easily. One of my client pays me 2000$ per month for plumbing leads. It just works in a recurring way and most importantly PASSIVELY.
And you can rinse and repeat this method for as many niches and city combinations you want.
Hope that helps!

Thumbs up, greath method, this is only gmb ranking but instead you can go both, create a landing page and then optimize for those keywords, get Leads and then Sell them ..

 

[FredJones]

I don't understand the issue of taking the phone call in-house versus forwarding to the business. Of course, I am just learning the method, I don't do it by any stretch of imagination.

At a glance, scalability seems to be an issue with taking the call in-house. You perhaps make 10x per client by taking the call in-house and then sending an educated/qualified lead, but surely you can scale 20x by simply not worrying about the phone call?

Anyhow, a great learning experience for me. Awesome thread.

 

[patadeperro]

I would like to add something to the conversation because I think this is an extremely interesting thread and I have experience in it as well, the local lead generation was my first money making method that worked from me, it was in those days when an Exact Match Domain was enough to rank for the term, then I bought like 20 domains (they were A LOT for me in those days) and I started renting them to several local businesses and I learned a few things:

a) It is easier to sell leads to a business that already know what is a lead and how to handle it example: anything in the financial vertical (payday loans, insurance, mortgages, etc...)

b) The people who do not know how to treat a lead or they will want to pay you per sale (but you won't be able to know when the sales are done) or they will say your methods won't work and refuse to pay because they will expect every contact to be a sale.

c) Most people do not have a CRM or a follow up process so there is another money opportunity.

From my perspective the difference between @BassTrackerBoats and @OmegaRank systems/method is not really a lead generation or seo difference it is a business acumen difference what do I mean by that? @BassTrackerBoats is creating a real asset besides the simple Google Business Local spot, he gets the call, gets the guys information, set up the appointment and then he not only has a registry of the leads he have generated BUT he can follow up with them and re sell them, IF he ever gets the Business Listing banned, he can easily start a lead generation business for the entire vertical, he knows what are the most common problems (he can bid on those keywords and create landing pages specially for these problems) he can identify who are the local guys who work better, he can even follow up with a "satisfaction call", he has CONTROL over the business, not just a simple spot in the Google results, and you can expand the operation even further how?

1.- By creating an online calendar and sharing it to the client who is getting the leads (most of them have no idea how this works)

2.- He can create a follow up system to re sell the lead to other local guys and pice the leads differently for exclusive leads than for shared leads.

3.- He can make a diagnosis of the problem BEFORE sending them to the client so once the client gets the lead/problem he is ready to make a quote or a solution.

All these are assets that he can create to the point to even license the entire local lead generation system.

 

[DMWD]

I would like to add something to the conversation because I think this is an extremely interesting thread and I have experience in it as well, the local lead generation was my first money making method that worked from me, it was in those days when an Exact Match Domain was enough to rank for the term, then I bought like 20 domains (they were A LOT for me in those days) and I started renting them to several local businesses and I learned a few things:

a) It is easier to sell leads to a business that already know what is a lead and how to handle it example: anything in the financial vertical (payday loans, insurance, mortgages, etc...)

b) The people who do not know how to treat a lead or they will want to pay you per sale (but you won't be able to know when the sales are done) or they will say your methods won't work and refuse to pay because they will expect every contact to be a sale.

c) Most people do not have a CRM or a follow up process so there is another money opportunity.

From my perspective the difference between @BassTrackerBoats and @OmegaRank systems/method is not really a lead generation or seo difference it is a business acumen difference what do I mean by that? @BassTrackerBoats is creating a real asset besides the simple Google Business Local spot, he gets the call, gets the guys information, set up the appointment and then he not only has a registry of the leads he have generated BUT he can follow up with them and re sell them, IF he ever gets the Business Listing banned, he can easily start a lead generation business for the entire vertical, he knows what are the most common problems (he can bid on those keywords and create landing pages specially for these problems) he can identify who are the local guys who work better, he can even follow up with a "satisfaction call", he has CONTROL over the business, not just a simple spot in the Google results, and you can expand the operation even further how?

1.- By creating an online calendar and sharing it to the client who is getting the leads (most of them have no idea how this works)

2.- He can create a follow up system to re sell the lead to other local guys and pice the leads differently for exclusive leads than for shared leads.

3.- He can make a diagnosis of the problem BEFORE sending them to the client so once the client gets the lead/problem he is ready to make a quote or a solution.

All these are assets that he can create to the point to even license the entire local lead generation system.

This is an excellent breakdown as to why you should take the time to plan and build each asset out, especially if you could potentially lose your GMB listing.

 

[OmegaRank]

I would like to add something to the conversation because I think this is an extremely interesting thread and I have experience in it as well, the local lead generation was my first money making method that worked from me, it was in those days when an Exact Match Domain was enough to rank for the term, then I bought like 20 domains (they were A LOT for me in those days) and I started renting them to several local businesses and I learned a few things:

a) It is easier to sell leads to a business that already know what is a lead and how to handle it example: anything in the financial vertical (payday loans, insurance, mortgages, etc...)

b) The people who do not know how to treat a lead or they will want to pay you per sale (but you won't be able to know when the sales are done) or they will say your methods won't work and refuse to pay because they will expect every contact to be a sale.

c) Most people do not have a CRM or a follow up process so there is another money opportunity.

From my perspective the difference between @BassTrackerBoats and @OmegaRank systems/method is not really a lead generation or seo difference it is a business acumen difference what do I mean by that? @BassTrackerBoats is creating a real asset besides the simple Google Business Local spot, he gets the call, gets the guys information, set up the appointment and then he not only has a registry of the leads he have generated BUT he can follow up with them and re sell them, IF he ever gets the Business Listing banned, he can easily start a lead generation business for the entire vertical, he knows what are the most common problems (he can bid on those keywords and create landing pages specially for these problems) he can identify who are the local guys who work better, he can even follow up with a "satisfaction call", he has CONTROL over the business, not just a simple spot in the Google results, and you can expand the operation even further how?

1.- By creating an online calendar and sharing it to the client who is getting the leads (most of them have no idea how this works)

2.- He can create a follow up system to re sell the lead to other local guys and pice the leads differently for exclusive leads than for shared leads.

3.- He can make a diagnosis of the problem BEFORE sending them to the client so once the client gets the lead/problem he is ready to make a quote or a solution.

All these are assets that he can create to the point to even license the entire local lead generation system.

Hey, thanks for reading this M glad you read the entire thing . Yes both mine and the basstrackerboats method work perfectly fine. The way we differ is in the fundamental appraoch or rather called as the mindset. The entire strategy behind this method is QUICK RESULTS only as i wanted to dedicate this thread for people who can get benfitted a lot by a simple strategy and would do a hell lot of good to their lives. Cuz i have been there personally !

 

[Nicololo]

It is easier to sell leads to a business that already know what is a lead and how to handle it example: anything in the financial vertical (payday loans, insurance, mortgages, etc...)

But you do not think that sending financial Leads is extremely difficult?
I think they talk about plumbers and home services because it's easier for a person to enter your website or call you on the phone.
That something financial where there are already established brands, nobody will enter insuranceinsuburb.com.
I think that without much knowledge on the subject.

 

[OmegaRank]

This is an excellent breakdown as to why you should take the time to plan and build each asset out, especially if you could potentially lose your GMB listing.

Yes. Both mine and basstracker methods are perfectly working actions. It all depends on the perosnal goals of the person trying. One is a quick and not so stable(compared to the other method) and the other one is slow(compared to the other one) but stable. It all boils down the person getting into it

But you do not think that sending financial Leads is extremely difficult?
I think they talk about plumbers and home services because it's easier for a person to enter your website or call you on the phone.
That something financial where there are already established brands, nobody will enter insuranceinsuburb.com.
I think that without much knowledge on the subject.

Yes, home service business works best for this method. People like plumbers , roofers, tree service guys are all not so established brands which makes them easily approachable cuz they kinda fall into INFORMAL CATEGORY. And also mainly these are the business guys who are used to getting the leads from yelp, yellowpages, homeadvisor etc. They thrive on leads.

 

[fsgomes96]

Quick question about the GMB. How do you choose the adress. Doesn't have the issue about you pick someone adress and they don't like it.
Is there a way to choose a cold adress or something like?
And where do you buy the GMB verification?